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Topic: What was new? at scaa long beach (9 msgs / 196 lines)
1) From: Edward Bourgeois
Did anyone go from this list? New products? Promotional efforts? Educational
efforts good things, bad things? Maybe Tom could give us some
highlights,impressions, issues to discuss.

2) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Did anyone go from this list? New products? Promotional efforts? 
Educational efforts good things, bad things? Maybe Tom could give us 
some highlights,impressions, issues to discuss.
Hi did a little write up but be warned it's not very informative, 
just a lot of moaning about the show. Mark Prince has a bunch of 
stuff up, but it mostly focuses on barista competition, which i have 
a very different take on...
Um, let's see, i think trying out the clover at a few different 
booths, not jsut their own, was interesting. I like the machine, and 
the idea behind it, but I can't say I have had many good coffees from 
it. I liked 2 coffees of about 10-12 that I tried. I mean, these were 
all top notch coffees from good roasters, so it should have been 12 
for 12, maybe 10 for 12 at the lowest. No new home roasters except 
for the ronco-behmor. I am still going to need some convincing, and 
am concerned about the direction that will take. I mean, I roasted 1 
lb Yemen and 1/4 Lb fell out of the drum in the roast, some of it 
burning up in the "chaff tray" to charcoal level. Genecafe had a 
beautiful demonstration model that was all clear plastic, and I would 
love to see them make a production model to match- it is very 
entertaining. I still am not sure about their "automatic" model - I 
think the 2 knob manual model is ideal. Lots of pro roasters, but 
only the Loring and the new Marty Curtis / Primo sample roaster is 
really impressive to me. Lots of junky roasters with flashy paint 
jobs, mostly built off Turkish-built frames/drums. Not good. Bodum 
has an interesting double-wall chemex-style brewer; we'll be getting 
that in a week. No new home brewers look that great - Zojirushi sent 
me one that they say brews as hot as the technivorm but I think it is 
just a private label job with their name on it - doesnt look good. I 
met some nice folks from good roasteries and cafes like Elyssian 
(coffeed.org) and 49th parallel, of course my friends from Intelli. 
and Stumptown, Batdorf, Pacific Bay, George Howell/Terroir (first 
time I met his wife tho), um, lots more I can't recall. All the 
brokers and growing assoc.s are there with their fake coffee samples 
- I mean, they don't represent any real lots, so I don't see the 
point of looking at them. I used taste every coffee in the place, but 
have little interest outside of some shots pulled by good roasting 
places, clover, stuff like that. I just have a hard time with the 
crowds, the convention mentality, and filtering through all the 
garbage there to find the good places and good people. Half of my 
critique has basis, half is based on my own personal shortcomings. 
Either way, I think I will go to Minneapolis next year ...
Tom
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                   "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com                Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com
     Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA
             phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com

3) From: Floyd Lozano
this will probably make someone besides me rich, but here's the idea.  The
damn Clover already costs what, 10grand?  why not add another 500 to the
cost and add internet connectivity and programmability.  let people trade
coffee profiles (or sell them) for a particular bean and roast and trade
them out to other clover users.  then you can have your consistency and
per-coffee tuning.  combine that with the grind sieves you mention and you
can get consistent grind size along with programmability.  there, go forth
and get rich!
-F
From Tom's SCAA writeup, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee <
sweetmarias> wrote:
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what i tasted it was a bit hit-or-miss.

4) From: Edward Bourgeois
Tom said:
"All the
brokers and growing assoc.s are there with their fake coffee samples
- I mean, they don't represent any real lots, so I don't see the
point of looking at them. I used taste every coffee in the place,"
Tom    I'm sure the event would be better for you if at least you
could  hunt for a few special lots for us between all the pomp and
circumstance.

5) From: kofi
I tried some of the fake coffee from Burundi that I found at a booth there.
Tasted a lot it came from Africa :-)
I didn't see Tom though but that's probably 'cause he was avoiding
everything ;-)
On 5/11/07, Edward Bourgeois  wrote:
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6) From: JanoMac
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From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee 
Subject: Re: +What was new? at scaa long beach
Tom wrote:
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crowds, the convention mentality, and filtering through all the
garbage there to find the good places and good people. Half of my
critique has basis, half is based on my own personal shortcomings. <<
Shortcomings? I donıt think so, Tom.
I strongly resemble your comment. I go to several conferences and
conventions throughout each year for several of my professional & hobby
activities; science, science teaching, wood-craft/musical instrument-making=
,
& fishing. Every year I wonder why I do it. There is so much ³same-old² and
so much useless junk to wander through. New faces who have learned the
industry lingo and the companyıs polished presentation hawk the same tired
stuff (or repainted old stuff) from the same companies.
Then the crowds...
People seem to have lost any semblance of common courtesy, respect for
personal space, and have lost their ability or willingness to think of thei=
r
effect on others as they navigate, lookinı-peek at displayed wares, or step
into and out of high traffic areas, etc.
I would not consider a negative reaction to any of that a shortcoming!
Your gift is that you can see through all that fog and zero in on the good
stuff.
And let me tell you...we all appreciate it!
Kirk

7) From: Jim Carter
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
man, could you find a smaller font? I've seen underscores that were taller.
-- JC
JanoMac wrote:
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Amber Systems, Inc.
414 Main Street Suite 211-C
Rochester, Michigan 48307
www.ambersystems.com
p. 248-652-3140 ext. 224
f. 248-652-3402

8) From: JanoMac
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this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
Font size?
I didnıt choose one. (Well, I did for this e-mail)
I just replied to the text file that came to me...as  format.
My default-- when I choose to send via HTML -- is Comic Sans ³medium² (a
10-point typeface on Microsoft products).
My mail reader is set to read  not , so there is no issue on my
end 
When I saw my post on the list, it just came as the same size text that Tom
had used.
The vagaries of Microsoft vs. other e-mail products,  Mac vs. PC vs. LINUX,
etc. all go away when you set your reader to see text as text and not html.
Kirk

9) From: Brett Mason
AS LONG AS IT WAS GOOD FOR YOU.
I trust your original miniature post was not about coffee - but if it was,
feel free to send it to us in a readable form...
I have no idea if this is ON TOPIC or OFF TOPIC, OT Police please help me
out with a pedantic ruling, OK?
Thanks,
Irritatedly yours,
Brett
On 5/12/07, JanoMac  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com


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