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Topic: bird poo coffee (26 msgs / 683 lines)
1) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
While we are talking about coffee excreted from animals, i thought i 
would introduce brazil jacu bird coffee. in short, it's not mythical 
and it's not $125 per Lb. It's here, we just received it, and it will 
be about $12 per Lb, it's for real, and the cup isn't bad at all! (I 
am finishing the review and it will be posted by the weekend.)
Meet your coffee processing mill:http://tinyurl.com/2ehbyfAnyway, this all came about on a trip to Brazil, when a coffee farmer 
from a very respected farm, camocim, told be they had a high 
concentration of the Jacu bird, since they basically farm coffee in a 
nature reserve. The jacu were eating and pooping the coffee, and one 
of his guys had been collecting it. Was I interested? Well, of 
course. The coffee is pooped out in parchment (the protective outer 
layer like wet processed coffee when it hits the patio) so it is 
buffered from the poo, and then it was milled. He thought maybe there 
would be 50 Lbs or so but he managed to collect more... still it is a 
tiny, tiny lot.
The funny thing is that the cup, unlike kopi luwak, is nice. It's not 
WOW coffee, it's good coffee ... on that me and the Jacu can agree. 
It's the same hype they give to Kopi Luwak, since the Jacu only 
selects ripe red cherry, but most luwak is robusta, or robusta with a 
little arabica, and it tastes like mediocre-to-bad robusta. This has 
good body, some sweetness, it has a nice cup, a tiny bit floral. I am 
not going to hype the story, or say it's the most spectacular coffee 
I have ever had (the Bourbon from the same farm that I will be 
posting is better, sweeter, brighter and more floral). But then 
again, it took these guys a lot of work to collect this coffee for 
me, and they aren't exploiting the situation either.
I am going to leave all the jokes to you all. For me, I am happy to 
have true bird-friendly coffee that even the most hardcore audubon 
conservationist can say involves no animal exploitation (unlike the 
luwak), and actually has a cup that classifies as specialty coffee!.
Tom
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2) From: Tim TenClay
What a hoot!  (pun intended!)
I can't wait....
Grace and peace,
  `tim
On 5/16/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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3) From: Coffeenut
Soooo...in the pecking order it would seem that a bird poops a better bean
than a cat.  When I've shared the Kopi Luwak story, most people think
poopin' beans are fowl.  I've always had a feeling about this stuff...what
with all the flap about Kopi Luwak, and all the while it was a false peep.
Rick 
(Crowing for Jacu)

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While we are talking about coffee excreted from = animals, i thought i would introduce brazil jacu bird coffee. in short, = it's not mythical and it's not $125 per Lb. It's here, we just received = it, and it will be about $12 per Lb, it's for real, and the cup isn't = bad at all! (I am finishing the review and it will be posted by the = weekend.) Meet your coffee processing mill: http://tinyurl.com/2ehbyfAnyway, this = all came about on a trip to Brazil, when a coffee farmer from a very = respected farm, camocim, told be they had a high concentration of the = Jacu bird, since they basically farm coffee in a nature reserve. The = jacu were eating and pooping the coffee, and one of his guys had been = collecting it. Was I interested? Well, of course. The coffee is pooped = out in parchment (the protective outer layer like wet processed coffee = when it hits the patio) so it is buffered from the poo, and then it was = milled. He thought maybe there would be 50 Lbs or so but he managed to = collect more... still it is a tiny, tiny lot.The funny thing is that the cup, unlike kopi luwak, = is nice. It's not WOW coffee, it's good coffee ... on that me and the = Jacu can agree. It's the same hype they give to Kopi Luwak, since the = Jacu only selects ripe red cherry, but most luwak is robusta, or robusta = with a little arabica, and it tastes like mediocre-to-bad robusta. This = has good body, some sweetness, it has a nice cup, a tiny bit floral. I = am not going to hype the story, or say it's the most spectacular coffee = I have ever had (the Bourbon from the same farm that I will be posting = is better, sweeter, brighter and more floral). But then again, it took = these guys a lot of work to collect this coffee for me, and they aren't = exploiting the situation either. I am going to leave all the = jokes to you all. For me, I am happy to have true bird-friendly coffee = that even the most hardcore audubon conservationist can say involves no = animal exploitation (unlike the luwak), and actually has a cup that = classifies as specialty coffee!. Tom--                   = "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"       =     Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria        =               http://www.sweetmarias.com      =         Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com    Sweet Maria's Coffee - = 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA            = phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.comhomeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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5) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Although it has nothing to do with poo birds or cats coffee, thought you
might find it interesting that just down the road from Sweet Maria's another
coffee is being offered by the grower. I came across the article while
e-scanning the local newspaper from my former city of residence, Manteca.
Here's a link,http://www.mantecabulletin.com/buy the weigh, they usually only keep their stories one day, but for some
reason this is day two on this one.
TerryT
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6) From: Walter R. Basil
I won't be one to try this new coffee, but that didn't keep me from  
enjoying the reading of your description Tom. ;-)
My wife says no. It still comes from poo. She claims to be working on  
a batch of coffee right now, that she'll excrement. She wonders if  
anyone will buy it...
-Walt
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7) From: Lynne Biziewski
Spew alert! Ha - ha, ROTFL...
Lynne
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8) From: Les
Walt,
I just got back from Montana and I would have been disappointed if
this unique offering had been sold out.  1st, this is a limited
offering.  2nd, Tom wouldn't offer it if it hadn't cupped well. 3rd, I
homeroast for great taste and unique coffee experiences.  I enjoyed
sampling Kopi Luwak when it was not so out of this world expensive and
found it to be a unique experience.  Personally, I roast my coffee at
temperatures that will take care of any pooh.  From reading Tom's
review, it sounds like this coffee has been well taken care of after
being collected and wet processed before being sent to market.  I am
looking forward to another unique coffee adventure.
Les
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9) From: Floyd Lozano
Depends, how is she at selecting coffee cherries?
There's poo and then there's poo.  Human poo is probably worse than a lot -
i think the flora in our digestive tract is especially nasty, but I'm not a
doctor, can't back that up.  And if you don't clean your mushrooms very well
before you eat em, well, enjoy that earthy funk!
-F
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10) From: Ed Needham
Even sterilized poo is still poo.  Yuck.

11) From: raymanowen
"1st, this is a limited offering."
Oh, good- Likely, I'll miss it, but my Bronco loves reconstituted Dinosaur
dung.
"2nd, Tom wouldn't offer it if it hadn't c**pped well.
"3rd, I homeroast for great taste and unique coffee experiences."
There were also certain delicacies in the Philippines- Balut and Aso. Excuse
me, they were too unique for me, as were some in Japan, Korea, Thailand and
Vietnam. Not to say foreign food is bad- certain of the delicacies assault
the palate. Like decaf.
Except for a certain environmental condition, the O-rings on Challenger's
rocket engines were A-OK, too.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Whatever you like- buy all you want, and more.

12) From: Aaron
You may be able to kill the germs in the poo but what about the poisons, 
and other toxins that are in it that are not biological in nature.  Oh 
and watch out for the corn.
Aaron

13) From: Alchemist John
I am not sure there are any "poisons" or toxins, or at the least, if 
there were, not that would not wash off.
OH - POPCORN!
Off to actually read the review...
At 03:52 5/20/2007, you wrote:
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14) From: jim gundlach
I would guess that the people who object to anything that has been in  
contact with poo avoid "natural casing" sausage.  And to think I just  
fed some to three grand kids along with home made pancakes this morning.
I'm off to Atlanta for the Homeroasters group meeting this afternoon.
      Pecan Jim
On May 20, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Alchemist John wrote:
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15) From: Aaron
Doesn't the body excrete chemicals it no longer needs through the waste 
system, ie urine, feces.   Ammonia, urea, and salts  to name some.  What 
about  metals and minerals.  I remember a report some time ago about 
them using Human crap as fertilizer or other crap and it was shown to 
give significant rises in heavy metals such as cadmium.
Heres one minor linkhttp://links.jstor.org/sici?sici91-6765(198112)42%3C197%3ACLAZIG%3E2.0.CO%3B2-MOk so it may be non related, but face it,  feces is the waste products 
the body doesn't need either because it's been used, is toxic or 
whatever....  why would one want to intentionally put that back into 
their body.
if one wants to go bobbing for road apples hey go for it.  Me 
personally, id rather not.
oh, and not that you are going to pick up a pile and have lunch but.. 
since were talking about contamination and leeching etc etc... look at 
all the drugs people use .. all kinds of synthesised crap.. no pun 
intended, hormones, you name it... those don't always get destroyed by 
the digestive process... what are they capable of doing?   Many animals, 
birds included will eat poo.... to them it's natural, they are getting a 
shot at the nutrients the original owner missed the first time through.  
Ok this went off on a tangent but, I can not see any way to say, eating, 
drinking something that went through the buzzard or gizzard or maybe 
even a lizzard.. is a good thing.
Just out of curiosity, does the FDA regulate coffee beans?  I don't 
know, but think not, because if they did, I can't see them approving 
anything even remotely related to feces as being fit for consumption, 
even if the beans were burnt almost beyond recognition and hidden behind 
a cute mythological creature.
Aaron

16) From: Tom Ulmer
I hate to be a party pooper, but who gives a crap?

17) From: Aaron
Obviously the bird gives a crap or else tom wouldn't have the coffee on 
sale.  Come to think of it, the size of the bird, the size of the 
undigested bean.. .ouch that must hurt passing through!!
Aaron

18) From: Peter Z
Well, there used to be poo everything-to-eat.
Remember manure spreaders?
Where is the break point (in our minds) when we stop eating poo 
processed food stuff and it gets wholesome?
Are you saying that artificial fertilizers are better than au naturel?
What is this trend back to pricey organically-grown anyway?
Think of the 'water cycle', ashes to ashes...
Everything gets recycled.. does the word entropy mean anything anymore?
In your everyday coffee you MAY be drinking the remains of some honeybee 
that died 25 yrs ago in south west Texas.
Have a nice day,
PeterZ
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19) From: Bob
hence the buzz in my brew?
Bob

20) From: Les
Hey Aaron,
That beer you love so much has yeast pee in it.  We call it alcohol!
Les
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21) From: Alchemist John
And dare we even bring up bee regurgitate....honey!
If it stays around long enough, I will be getting a pound.  It has 
the Tom stamp of approval and I love brazils.
At 13:40 5/20/2007, you wrote:
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22) From: Aaron
and honey is bee poop... or bee jiz, i forget which exactly.....
I knew that if I posted that there'd be a lot of comments, provides 
entertainment it does and sparks a conversation.
Seriously, I don't let much of that bother me, to be honest, worse case, 
you eat something not quite right, you get an upset stomach, your body 
builds a resistance to the bacteria in it and you end up stronger from 
the ordeal.  If folks had any clue how much roach stepped on food they 
have eaten in their lives, most of them, they'd never eat at a 
restaraunt again.
Fertilizers, whatever, they are all around us, they make the world we 
live in a better place.  So far I havent seen any accounts of people 
dropping dead left and right from food poisoning, (well except for the 
spinich grown in crap thing a bit ago).   I think that if one lives too 
'clean' a life it's worse for you, you don't build up any immunities so 
that any / every bug that you happen to come across, it gits ya...
Gerbils make little brown pellets, I wonder if we can market them as 
some kind of instant luwak coffee?
Drinking coffee and home made brandy actually, well not brandy but a 
honey ciser with a bit of vanilla in it...aged two years, slightly 
carbonated, just like my prickly pear wine.... hmmm the gods would kill 
for this nectar combination.
Aaron  who now is thinking of making another batch of kahlua.

23) From: Michael Wascher
... and their farts become the fizz!
On 5/20/07, Les  wrote:
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24) From: Larry English
Oh-Oh, RayMan,
  Your eccentric postings have been a cover for a timid soul, I fear - no
Balut? I was offered - er, challenged, actually - to try Balut in Manila
(back in the day - long stories abound - not here tho) and it was not so
bad, though the "why" is still there.  In Hong Kong (also back in the day) I
was guest at a dim-sum palace and had to try several things of dubious
origins, after which the group told me they themselves wouldn't eat them -
also made me wonder "why".  So intestinally-processed coffee isn't on my
s**t list (sorry) but the "why" is still there.  I trust Tom but ... well
... why?  I'll stick with Gesha, Misty, Kowali, Moki - that's special enough
for this old dude ...
Larry
P.S. And decaf is verboten?  Such a delicate palate ... Tom's Yirg decaf is
pretty special, give it a try.
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25) From: raymanowen
"Tom's Yirg decaf is pretty special, give it a try."
Thanks for the heads-up on the Yirg, but you've seen the Surgeon General's
warning, right? Plus, my last name is also my financial status, so when I go
window shopping and see the Panama Carmen Estate 1.8km, I have to hope
everybody treats it right. One of these days, Alice...
Don't get me wrong- I don't have any problems with decaf, just like I don't
have any money problems. Really, I compare decaf to playing Khachaturian's
Piano Concerto on a spinet piano. Why bother? A real pianist couldn't even
finish the piece on the best pianos back in the day without loosening pin
blocks.
Cheers, and Magandang Umaga -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?  O wa!
On 5/20/07, Larry English  wrote:
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26) From: Patrick S. Harper
If the bird eats the cherries, then the cat eats the bird, does that make it
double special poo coffee?


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