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Topic: grinder or technivorm first? (9 msgs / 308 lines)
1) From: Beth Henkels
I had been planning on buying a technivorm within the next couple of weeks,
but now with all of the talk about grinders I'm wondering if I should be
buying a new grinder first.  We only drink drip coffee, and use a kitchen
grinder.  It is a burr grinder, but probably not the caliber the rest of you
use.  So, my questions are; how does my kitchen aid compare to the (I assume
lower end) burr grinders, and if you were in my position, would you upgrade
your grinder or coffee maker first?  Again, we only drink drip, so I will
never need a grinder sophisticated enough for espresso etc.  
(Did I just say "never"?)
Thanks,
Beth

2) From: Bailey Blanchette
Hi Beth,
Maybe my experiences will help you to decide.
I started out with a Kitchen Aid grinder and thought it was doing fairly
well.  After my Technivorm arrived, I found that if I got the grind coarse
enough to leave no sediment with a swissgold, then the flavor wasn't there.
I tweaked finer and finer until I got my flavor back, but then had fines
going into the pot. Best way to minimize the fines with  my KA was to give
it a thorough cleaning every other day. (pull out the burr carrier, give it
a good brushing and vac out the fines that had accumulated) not a big deal
really. Now that my new eBay Rocky is cleaned up and ready to go, I have
suddenly discovered newer flavors in my coffee. I am getting finer but more
even grains from the Rocky and much much less fines for a given grind size,
I'd vote grinder first, after my experience, regardless of how you brew.
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3) From: Bob
Beth,
  I got the Technivorm and the Solis Maestro plus (big honkin iron plate 
on the bottom). Both work very well and I'm happy. When I go to 
espresso, I will get a grinder for that. I use the Solis for Press, 
Drip, Moka pot and vacc pot. Works fine. Keep it clean.
Bob

4) From: Floyd Lozano
It's been said here that the Technivorm is essentially a very convenient
pourover.  If you're willing to forego the convenience of that for a little
bit, you will probably get a lot of mileage out of a good to great grinder,
a hot water kettle, and a filtercone holder.  Others have vouched for the
quality of some grinders that can be had in the 150 - 200 range (like the
Solis Maestro Plus , maybe the Baratza Virtuoso too) that work fine for
folks with no aspiration to grind very fine.  In my particular case, I
wanted a grinder for espresso too, which wife drinks exclusively (along with
a healthy dose of cow generated calcium suspension!).  What kind of burr
grinder do you currently own?  Kitchenaid?
-F
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5) From: Sandy Andina
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If you're not doing espresso, and you have a decent burr grinder, I  
would go for the Technivorm before upgrading the grinder (unless it's  
a real cheapie that produces dust and generates enough static to spew  
grounds all over the place).  IMHO, what makes, say, a Mazzer so good  
for espresso (stepless adjustment) makes it a royal p.i.t.a. and  
overkill for drip.
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what makes, say, a Mazzer so good for espresso (stepless adjustment) =
makes it a royal p.i.t.a. and overkill for drip.
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6) From: Eddie Dove
Poppycock!
I bought a Mazzer Mini predominately for use with my Technivorm, but
also use it periodically for espresso.  The Mazzer Mini is excellent
for this because in about one second I can change it from drip to
espresso.  Give me another second I can change it back to drip from
espresso.  Ease of using and adjusting the Mazzer mini is one of the
reasons I like it so much.
I had the Technivorm Moccamaster CD before I bought the Mazzer Mini.
My grinder at the time was a KitchenAid Proline (KAP, which I really
liked) and I was a bit skeptical that the Mazzer would make that much
of a difference.  As such, I saved up, payed cash for the Mazzer and I
was going to keep the KAP as a backup grinder.  The quality of my drip
coffee took a major leap forward switching from the KAP to the Mazzer
Mini; I sold the KAP and used the money to buy more Sweet Maria's
coffee.
Respectfully,
Eddie
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7) From: deylat1.1
Hello Beth,
The  Technivorm is  a fine machine  indeed and  oldn't anyone  be  pround
 to display theirMazzer mini(not really so mini)
But there  is a  much better  solution buy neither spend the mony on
better offee. get a 32ounce Bonjour press pot( beats the Bodum line quit
handily.while good  grinding  remains  important with the  press  pot 
its importance  is  reduced and an $80 Capresso would  serve as  well asa
500 dollar Mazzer.Prettier too and notso much real estate  is needed on
precious countertops and  your presntKitchnaid grinder might still be the
 ticket.
Your taste seems  to go  to coffee with body fom some fine powder in
suspension. , well French presses are  the  ticket for this sort  of
body. You'll need a kettle  for hot water and if  you don't have  one,
the west bend 1.7 litre at19.99 from Amazon is cordless  and veryfast.
non cordless  kettles  start  at just ten bucks but truly the West  bend
is  a better  choice: cord can be  hazarous especially  when you rush and
 don't  we  all run at times?! the only thing  you'll still need is a
disposable(?) plastic spoon to stir  up the  brew. metal spoons and 
press pots do not  get along so plastic could not hurt  the pot or cool
the hot water. when too stained; heave'm they average  a penny  apiece
and  yes you can wash them if you push your conservation efforts. LestI
forget;a good thermos to extend the life of  your coffee is  a good idea.
sweet Maria carries the  top of the line thermal bottles from Nissan, I
believe

8) From: Eddie Dove
This morning I used my Mazzer Mini to grind and my Technivorm
Moccamaster CD with a Swissgold filter to brew the following coffees:
Colombia COE # 3 - El Placer
El Salvador #2 - Los Planes
Mexico Oaxaca Pluma - Don Eduardo
All divine coffees.  The Colombia COE # 3 - El Placer was an explosion
of flavors suspended in a rich, creamy body and try as I might, I just
couldn't find any powder suspended in the coffee; the damn Mazzer just
won't do it.
I wonder how the body got in there?
Eddie
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9) From: Beth Henkels
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Floyd asked: What kind of burr grinder do you currently own?  Kitchen aid?
Yep, kitchen aid.
Beth  
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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:59 PM
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Subject: Re: +RE: grinder or technivorm first?
It's been said here that the Technivorm is essentially a very convenient
pourover.  If you're willing to forego the convenience of that for a little
bit, you will probably get a lot of mileage out of a good to great grinder,
a hot water kettle, and a filtercone holder.  Others have vouched for the
quality of some grinders that can be had in the 150 - 200 range (like the
Solis Maestro Plus , maybe the Baratza Virtuoso too) that work fine for
folks with no aspiration to grind very fine.  In my particular case, I
wanted a grinder for espresso too, which wife drinks exclusively (along with
a healthy dose of cow generated calcium suspension!).  What kind of burr
grinder do you currently own?  Kitchenaid? 
-F
On 5/25/07, Beth Henkels  wrote: 
I had been planning on buying a technivorm within the next couple of weeks,
but now with all of the talk about grinders I'm wondering if I should be 
buying a new grinder first.  We only drink drip coffee


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