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Topic: FoodSaver: Leaks in bags develop over time (11 msgs / 291 lines)
1) From: raymanowen
Please do your Due Diligence on new equipment under consideration- you may
have to live with it.
Amazingly, I searched for Food Saver Failures on Google, and the s.e. came
up with over 1,000,000 hits. In full disclosure, I saw some returns stating
-No- problems, so without tallying all 1.3 million, Google found at least a
half million failure statements.
I know that sealing the fresh roasted beans, even after a few days'
evolution of CO2, will amount to canning pressurized gas at room
temperature, and the heat sealed containers can't stay intact with more than
a little puff of internal pressure.
If the bags are perfectly sealed under vacuum with fresh roasted beans, the
fresh roasted beans themselves are liberating CO2 molecules. Like my
darkroom, the darkness leaks out. Had fun with Edith and Sarah when they
were in the early grades, finding the darkness that had leaked out...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
You find anything missing? - -Victor Borge

2) From: Aaron
Another thing I have noticed, if the plastic is not absolutely flat 
against itself when you seal it,  ie a ripple or crease it can mess up 
the seal as well and it wont be as strong.  If the heating pad is a bit 
dirty, the heat does not get fully through to the bag and it doesn't 
seal properly.  Many things can go wrong with a heat sealer, and again, 
might be a bad batch of bags too.
How much ice is in your fridge.  Ice can be very sharp, and the bags 
might get a lot more brittle at freezing temps and much more suceptable 
to mechanical damage than at room temp.
Lots of things can go wrong.
Just some thoughts.
Aaron

3) From: Brett Mason
I have been married for 26 years now, and I can confirm...
  Leaks in bags develop over time...
Of course, there is a corollary:
    Men get fat....
Thanks fir the good news...
Brett
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4) From: Aaron
Brett... that hot air escaping is not a leak, . the hole it comes from, 
is called her mouth  :)
Ill go lay over by my dish now.
Back on topic.  I wouldn't worry too much about a leaky bag, and if you 
do, just go make yourself a pot of coffee... or a cup, and reseal it up. 
or cut the end off and do a reseal that way or transfer bags...
How long were you planning on keeping the beans frozen to begin with?  
why freeze roasted beans, id think you would just make a new batch when 
the first one runs out.  Frozen even, the taste will diminish over time.
Aaron

5) From: Brett Mason
Cracking me up - hope you had a great Memorial Day.  Thanks for serving..
Brett
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6) From: David Morgenlender
Actually I've had pretty good luck sealing roasted beans, which I usually=
 do in
mason jars.  A few times, the seal has popped after a few days, =
presumably
because of the outgassing CO2.  Otherwise, no failures.
I had the one detected failure when I stored a bag of roasted beans in =
the
freezer.  Since the cold temperature should reduce outgassing, and these =
beans
had been roasted for at least a few days before storing, I suspect the =
leak was
caused by something else.
I primarily vacuum seal green beans into bags, and this is where I've run=
 into
the large number of problems.  I haven't noticed any bags with bloating =
except
those that actually had a leak, so I suspect outgassing didn't cause the
problem.  Also I've noticed little creases in some of the bags with a =
pinhole,
which is probably the leak.  I have no idea how the crease gets there.  =
One of
the rolls included with my FS had these creases, so maybe I have =
defective
material.  OTOH, that original bad roll leaked immediately, not after a =
period
of storage.
BTW, I think the darkness likes to hide in the basement. :)
Dave
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7) From: David Morgenlender
Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll pay more attention when I'm sealing the=
 bag.
The bags of greens don't go into the freezer.  So ice isn't the problem =
in most
or all cases.
Dave
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8) From: David Morgenlender
I freeze roasted beans either because I have too much to use before =
staling, or
to have in case of emergency.  Although I'd like them to maintain fresh =
flavor,
maintaining drinkability is worth something in this case!
I have no specific timeframe in mind ... I'll learn with experience!
Dave
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9) From: Jim Anable
David Morgenlender wrote:
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I also use a Foodsaver with the wide mouth mason jars.  I find that it 
works better if I soak reused lids in HOT water before sealing.  I think 
it softens the seal, and makes it easier to do its job.
I also use the Foodsaver canisters.  I have two types.  I've read 
complaints about cracks in the acrylic (or whatever it's made out of), 
but I haven't had a problem.

10) From: David Morgenlender
Thanks for the suggestions.  
I've been using those canisters for leftover rolls, crackers, etc.  They =
do a
great job & they're much more convenient than bags.  But given the =
ridiculous
amount of green beans in my stash, I can't afford to store them in =
canisters,
not even in mason jars! 
Dave
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11) From: miKe mcKoffee
At one time had over 250lbs greens vac bag sealed!!! Now that was a
ridiculous stash for a two coffee drinking household, about 2&1/2 year
supply.
FWIW I've had very little problems with bag failures my 10+ years using
FoodSavers.
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