Kevin... YES! We have one one coffee shop in the town where I live that roasts coffee. The paper cups that they serve the coffee in taste musty to me. They don't have real cups! So I never go there for coffee for that reason. Also, I am a potter and I make cups. There is much more beyond the taste that influences our coffee drinking experience. The feel, the shape the beauty of the coffee combined with certain colors.. we all have our favorite cups and as a potter I am always looking for the best handle, rim, shape, size, feel of the glaze and color that enhances my coffee. A cup is really complex when you break it down into its parts and functions. A handmade cup is much more sensuous or at least I strive for that. The whole experience of coffee drinking is different with the right cup. I would appreciate everyone's opinion on this as I am engaged in the lifelong pursuit of the the perfect cup. Barbara
Barbara, Do you have a website? Brian On 6/4/07, Barbara Wilson wrote: <Snip>
"Brian Kamnetz" writes: <Snip> I second that. My favorite mug is a ceramic, "standard size" mug from Cafe Du Monde. I've been using it exclusively every day for the last several years (at least 3) and before that I was using an identical mug along with this one (I dropped the other one). I would like to replace this one and put it away as it has a bit of sentimental value. Buying a handcrafted coffee mug from someone who is a fellow coffee lover would be the perfect excuse. Buying it from a home roaster on this list makes it all the better. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw This is Unix we're talking about, remember. It's not supposed to be nice for the applications programmer. -- Matthew Danish on debian-devel
--Apple-Mail-17-820853472 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I find that the rougher the texture of the fired clay or glaze and the thicker the rim, the less I enjoy the coffee. There used to be a potter in Seattle called Fabrik Stoneware; their cups, though the rims were thick, had a smooth matte glaze that did not impart any negative factors to the coffee. Only bummer was I did not buy the tall mugs but rather the short cups with saucers, which were too shallow to direct the aromas up to the nose and concentrate them. Sadly, the ones that survived our move to Chicago in 1978 did not survive the collapse later that summer of the shelves in our cheapo JC Penney china closet, alas. On Jun 4, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Barbara Wilson wrote: <Snip> Sandy Andina www.sandyandina.com www.myspace.com/sandyandina --Apple-Mail-17-820853472 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 I find that the rougher the = texture of the fired clay or glaze and the thicker the rim, the less I = enjoy the coffee. There used to be a potter in Seattle called Fabrik = Stoneware; their cups, though the rims were thick, had a smooth matte = glaze that did not impart any negative factors to the coffee. Only = bummer was I did not buy the tall mugs but rather the short cups with = saucers, which were too shallow to direct the aromas up to the nose and = concentrate them. Sadly, the ones that survived our move to Chicago = in 1978 did not survive the collapse later that summer of the shelves in = our cheapo JC Penney china closet, alas. On Jun 4, 2007, at = 12:04 PM, Barbara Wilson wrote:
"My favorite mug is a ceramic, "standard size" mug from Cafe Du Monde." Huh ... my wife just sold my Cafe Du Monde mug at a yard sale for 25 cents ... it was the only mug that sold! I do work in New Orleans on a daily basis, so I am sure I could get you another mug if you would like. Eddie -- Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 6/4/07, Robert D. Crawford wrote: <Snip>
"Eddie Dove" writes: <Snip> Thanks for the offer, Eddie. Other than the sentimentality of the particular mug I don't really have an attachment. It is nice enough as a mug but in a blind test I really couldn't tell the difference. I just figure it is time to retire this one. Maybe if I can't find something special my local NPR station will give one away in their next pledge drive. Seems like all they have had for the last few times are plastic travel mugs, though. Thanks again, rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw May you have warm words on a cold evening, a full mooon on a dark night, and a smooth road all the way to your door.
I would love to try to create a mug that is your favorite and I would appreciate your feedback. Robert D. Crawford wrote: <Snip>
Hey I have a Cafe Du Monde mug in my collection..... Never really thought about it but I guess I collect coffee mugs I have 140+ right now never really meant to do it. I guess it just kinda happened! Dennis I second that. My favorite mug is a ceramic, "standard size" mug from Cafe Du Monde. I've been using it exclusively every day for the last several years (at least 3) and before that I was using an identical mug along with this one (I dropped the other one). I would like to replace this one and put it away as it has a bit of sentimental value. Buying a handcrafted coffee mug from someone who is a fellow coffee lover would be the perfect excuse. Buying it from a home roaster on this list makes it all the better. rdc
Nice to see you home! Mugs Happen Brett On 6/6/07, Dennis & Marjorie True wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
Barbara, Thanks for giving us a chance to talk cups. I like mugs that hold about 10 oz with comfortable size handle for at least 3 fingers if not whole hand, handle starts at top of cup with integrated thumb rest part of the top, cup slightly wider on bottom than top. Another way to collect feedback is to show us some examples of cups and we can comment on likes and dislikes. On 6/5/07, Barbara Wilson wrote: <Snip> -- MichaelB
Favorite cup. lets shoot for 12 to 16 oz of coffee, handle lets you get all your fingers into it, and is wide enough that they will fit in comfortably yet close enough that you can just loose thumb, finger hold the entire cup. cup has to be able to fit into cup holder on car too. I think *most* of them are a fairly standard size or within an inch or so of each other. Maybe a slightly wider base than mouth, it adds for stability and the conical shape I find also for some reason helps keep any movement sloshing remaining in the cup better than non conical. Ok it's vague but nobody ever accused me of being articulate :) Aaron
--Apple-Mail-35-983479809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Welcome home, safe, sound and caffeinated! On Jun 6, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Brett Mason wrote: <Snip> Sandy Andina www.sandyandina.com www.myspace.com/sandyandina --Apple-Mail-35-983479809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 Welcome home, safe, sound and = caffeinated! On Jun 6, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Brett Mason = wrote:
Dennis & Marjorie True writes: <Snip> Mon dieu! You obviously have _Much_ more room in your kitchen than I do. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw A motion to adjourn is always in order.
Actually a lot of them are still in Boxes from the last move.... I only have about 20 out right now. Dennis Mon dieu! You obviously have _Much_ more room in your kitchen than I do. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw
Barbara Wilson writes: <Snip> You know, I never really thought about it. I have always either chosen mugs based on aesthetics or some other reason that really had nothing to do with shape. Always a boring "standard" mug as far as shape. I guess my ideal mug would be made of heavier materials... no fine china for me, thanks. Heavier materials are also better at heat retention, a big plus as far as I am concerned. My current mug holds the output from my moka and my press and can't be smaller. I have always wondered why handles tend to curve the way they do. It seems to me that it should have a slight inward curve as that is what the fingers naturally do. I liked dark colors until I lost most of my sight. I now have to use lighter colors so that I can see not to overfill the cup when I pour from my drip. (if I could get my father to remember this when I visit him...) All of this is to say that I would feel kinda bad if you spent a lot of time working on a design and such. Surely you have a life and things to do that do not involve spending a lot of time designing a mug for some guy you are likely to never see. I am really not terribly particular when it comes to the design of the cup (but I refuse to drink out of something "girly" or something with a slogan or product I disagree with (no GOP mugs at my house ;->). I was actually just hoping you had a web site with designs I could look at, maybe mix and match, choose a color, send you my address and you send me a bill. I love handcrafted items. There is something very satisfying about using something crafted by hand in someone's workshop as opposed to machine crafted in some factory in China. Does anyone think we need to take this off-list? This question of course assumes that someone has read this far. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw Debian is the Jedi operating system: "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice". -- Simon Richter on debian-devel
RDC, being totally blind, I havde had to deal with how full the cup is. I've settled on the "ouch test." I hook my index finger over the mug's edge with about 3/4 of an inch in the mug. When I pour, I pour gently and as soon as I am tempted to say "ouch" at an increased decibel level, I figure the mug is sufficiently full. I use the Bodum double wall mugs that Tom sells and this method works well. It also works for pulling a shot, but you have to be quick with your fingers or the ouch test becomes a "HOLY S##T" test. Dan
Dan, Id say that being blind, your hearing should have become more acute, or actually you pay much more attention to it since you lost one of your other senses. when filling the cup you can hear the liquid going into it, and get a good idea how full the cup is getting that way by the change in pitch of the gurgling... give it a try it might help. aaron
On 6/6/07, Dennis & Marjorie True <dmtrue> wrote: Hey I have a Cafe Du Monde mug in my collection..... Never really thought about it but I guess I collect coffee mugs I have 140+ right now never really meant to do it. I guess it just kinda happened! Dennis Dennis, Hmm, sounds like the number of wine glasses I have. As you say, it just kinda happens. Frank Parth
Personally I think the cup itself has a lot to do with enjoying coffee and those on this list who are in the business of selling coffee shouldn't forget that the cup can ruin or make the experience. Devoting my time to creating a fantastic cup is what I do. It would be as if I said to you..I hate to waste your time finding the perfect coffee and roasting it to perfection just for little ole me. It's a compulsion of some sort to strive for perfection despite the fact that we won't ever reach it. I will make a bunch of cups and take photos and if you want one (or more) I'll send them to you. If not, I break plenty of cups around here and I never seem to have enough. I also sell them. Robert D. Crawford wrote: <Snip>
You're welcome. I will take some photos. MichaelB wrote: <Snip>
Barbara - I'd be interested in buying some from you eventually, too. I, too, am fanatical about coffee cups (I never realized it until my oldest daughter gently asked if I would kindly NOT give any of them (my kids) anything ceramic for Christmas one year. Guess I gave her some Japanese tea cups for her University graduation.. and a lovely Japanese tea kettle.. and gave them countless other gifts of coffee mugs, and tea pots, and other ceramic kitchen items for other occasions. Needless to say, when I saw a child's china tea set for a very reasonable price - I had to get it as a stocking stuffer for her that year. Just seemed appropriate. ; > } ) At any rate, I LOVE color, and handles that fit right in my hand. Mugs that are straight, so they won't tip over, but def. not rounded shape (just not appealing to me). I always have one favorite mug that's just mine, too. One year my kids got me a great whale mug - loved that, partly because I loved the shape, partly because my kids were pretty young & it was very special that they knew it was something I'd love. (I even kept the pieces for awhile after it broke!) In other words, I HAVE to have a special mug for special homeroast - it just wouldn't be right without it. Lynne On 6/6/07, Barbara Wilson wrote: <Snip>
Ok, I can see I've got my work cut out for me. But it will be fun. Lynne Biziewski wrote: <Snip>
The Scarlet Wombat writes: <Snip> I tried this after my first surgery when I was totally blind and decided it was not for me. What I was doing then was to listen to the cup, much like another poster mentioned. I then found I had to sip from the cup to find out where i was. Since I had not gotten to the point where I could get around I was only filling the cup about half to three-quarters full. Otherwise I had coffee on the floor, my shoes, etc. <Snip> I can only imagine. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw Aliquid melius quam pessimum optimum non est.
Barbara Wilson writes: <Snip> I look forward to seeing your work and ordering one. Thanks for making my coffee experience that much better. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford robdcraw Did you move a lot of KOREAN STEAK KNIVES this trip, Dingy?
Ooooooh, count me in! I'm always on the lookout for a good mug. Thanks! -- Dave Some days... It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps On 6/6/07, Barbara Wilson wrote: <Snip>