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1) From: DeCambre.Peter
I will be out of the office starting  11/26/2002 and will not return
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2) From: Jerry Murray
I'm sure you get this question alot, so please pardon
me if this is redundant.
Let me state that I certainly love my coffee. However
the best that I have had to date has been the
Starbucks/local shop. I have not had "truly fresh
roasted" coffee.
I would like to try my hand at roasting some beans,
but don't want to get into another hobby where I
invest a huge amount of money into it.
Any help would be appreciated for someone just
starting out.
Thanks,
Jerry
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3) From: Randall Nortman
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:40:24PM -0700, Jerry Murray wrote:
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You can certainly get by without investing a huge amount of money.
You can even get by without investing a lot of time, unless you happen
to be the obsessive experimenter type (which I gather most folks on
this list are).  Here's your shopping list:
Suitable popcorn popper: $5 at a thrift store, $10 new at Walgreens
8-pack coffee sampler from Sweet Maria's: $17
And that will get you started roasting for less than $30.  But then
once you've got great beans, you'll want a great way to grind and brew
them:
Entry-level burr grinder: $80 minimum (Capresso Infinity), up to $500
or so for a serious grinder.  You can also get a Zassenhaus manual
hand-crank grinder for $50 or less on eBay (and supposedly these will
show up new again, but they seem to keep pushing the date back).
Manual pourover filter cone holder, plus paper filters: About $20 or
less.
OR: Aeropress: $30
If you want to graduate to espresso, you'll need to budget $200
minimum for the grinder and $100 minimum for the machine.  But let's
not go there just yet.
And then you're going to want to go back and fine-tune your roasting.
You'll want The One True Air Roaster, the original 1979 West Bend
Poppery, available on eBay for $30-60, plus a variac or other device
to control the profile ($30-$100+) and some miscellaneous wiring
paraphernalia from the hardware store ($20) so you can split the fan
and heater circuits.  And you'll want a nice digital temperature probe
for $20.  Or you can graduate to BBQ drum roasting, or a
Hottop/Genecafe/etc., all of which set you back at least $100.
But yeah, sure, you can get started for less than $30.  Popcorn popper
plus green coffee equals fresh roasted coffee.  Some people are happy
to stop there.  You won't hear from many of them on this list.
They're busy having lives.

4) From: Jerry Murray
"You won't hear from many of them on this list.
They're busy having lives."
Now that's funny!
Thanks for the info!
Jerry
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5) From: Brian Kamnetz
If you have a heat gun, that will get you started roasting. In that case,
you can get started with an equipment outlay of $0.
I agree with the sample suggestion, but I suggest the double sampler, 1
pound each of 8 kinds of coffee. It gives you a couple more times to try
roasting each of the different varieties.
Brian
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6) From: Jerry Murray
I have tomorrow off and I'll check out Target or Wal
Mart for a popcorn popper.
With the "sampler" do I get to choose the varieties or
do they send me what they have?
If I choose, what would you suggest as to a good
starting selection?
Jerry
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7) From: Rich Adams
I did the same thing when first starting out, couldn't wait to roast so 
bought a $10 Target Chinese popper that was a POS.
Yea, it roasted.  Found better poppers in all of the local thrift/Salvation 
Army type stores nearby for 1/5 the price and 5 times the weight (meaning, 
built to last, and easy to modify too).
You do not get to choose when ordering a sampler pack.  Things might have 
changed though.
Respectfully,
Rich Adams

8) From: Jerry Murray
I was just wondering about buying a "made in China"
pos from a store.
I'll check out some thrift stores for a unit.
J
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9) From: Randall Nortman
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:07:31PM -0700, Jerry Murray wrote:
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Make sure you get one with side vents, instead of a mesh screen at the
bottom of the chamber.  This is hard to describe, but there's a photo
here:http://www.sweetmarias.com/airpopdesign.htmlThat page also has other useful tidbits.  If you happen to see a
Proctor Silex Pumper, I heartily recommend that.  Better than the
Poppery II, but not nearly as good as the original Poppery.  If you
see a Poppery II, snatch it up, even though it's not the best one out
there.  But really, grab anything with the right kind of vents.

10) From: Kris McN
Jerry,
Alternatively, you could get yourself a bread machine at the thrift store
(mine cost $5) and, as someone already mentioned, a $30 heat gun, if you
don't own one already.  This is how I do all my roasting.  I like the up to
1.75 lbs. capacity and on-the-fly control.  Vicky has a great FAQ about it:http://www.coffeecrone.com/roasting/faq.htmI've never roasted with a popper, so I can't speak to that.  I will say that
even though you don't get to choose the varieties, the SM samplers are
always a good mix of great coffee and a good place to start.
Good luck and welcome!
Kris McN
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11) From: raymanowen
You can get a thrift store Bread Machine (to agitate the beans), and a Heat
Gun from Lowe's, all for a few (<$50) dollars. Handle the chaff, extension
cord and cooling as per comments to be found elsewhere on this list.
The HG/BM is a very instructive and intuitive roasting setup. Vicki Smith is
a great advocate of the method, and has a site of her own dedicated to it.
Dig up one of her posts- it's in there.
Don't forget- it's not enough to roast coffee beans. Before you brew coffee,
you'll need to grind some beans.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?

12) From: Kris McN
Jinx!  Ray owes me a Coke!
Kris McN
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13) From: Larry Williams
Jerry
I started with the popper and soon moved to the IR2.  Well worth the 
money in my opinion.  You don't need anything else and the roasts turn 
out great even if you don't program other profiles.  I use the 
pre-program #2 almost all the time and the result is great.  That 
profile will get you to City all the way to Full City+ by extending the 
time.
Larry Williams
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14) From: Brett Mason
Go to your local thrift store and buy a hot air popcorn popper
$3.00
Also pick up a metal colander and wooden spoon
$3.00
Buy a sampler pack of beans from Sweet Marias
$30.00ish with shipping.
$36 should let you do the whole hobby at a total outlay of $9 per lb
including your roaster.
And you'll have eight different half pounders of the best coffee
available...
Now go price eight half pounds of roasted coffee at Starbucks...  Yeah, it's
more, I know....
Brett
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15) From: raymanowen
"Ray owes me a Coke!"
Nuts! You found me out- I got distracted looking up Vicki's blog. Found it
and instead of c/p the URL, forgot why I had been looking.
Must be the Syndrome- Cokes are hard to spoil...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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16) From: Brian Kamnetz
Sweet Maria's chooses when you get the sampler. But that is not a negative;
in fact, it is one of the primary incentives to order the sampler. All of
the Sweet Maria's coffees are excellent.
Brian
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