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Topic: FoodSaver: Leaks in bags develop over time => DEFECTIVE MATERIAL! (4 msgs / 213 lines)
1) From: David Morgenlender
I found the culprit (or at least 1 of them).  I wanted to re-organize my =
stash.
So I pulled out all the drawers & put them on the floor ... & discovered =
some
more failures.  So in addition to vac sealing my last 2 Harvey orders (13=
 bags),
I re-sealed the failed bags ... 2 using the original bags, when I could =
spot the
leak & work around it, the remainder creating bags using new material =
from
rolls.  I did this over 2 days.  A few hours after finishing up I went to
re-load the drawers.  I found a HUGE number of failures, including just =
about
everything I had sealed & re-sealed over those 2 days!!!
Over these 2 days, and some of the previous sealing, I used rolls from a =
package
of 3 I had purchased from Amazon.  These were 8" x 22' FOODSAVER rolls.  =
So I
re-sealed some using a new 8" roll I had purchased directly from =
FoodSaver.
After a few hours none of the newly created & sealed bags had leaked, so =
I
sealed the remainder using the new material.  I just checked after more =
than 24
hours.  Spot checking, I found only 1 failure, but it wasn't a bag I =
recently
sealed;  unlike the other failures, it didn't look failed, but felt soft;=
  so I
could easily have missed it previously.  So, the new material is working =
so far.
I compared the material from the 2 sources ... the material that failed =
felt
noticably thinner than the other.  Lightly rolling a corner of the =
failing
material resulted in a crease;  doing the same with the other material =
just
results in a curled over corner, which sprung back when released.  =
Clearly the
failing material is of inferior construction!
I called FoodSaver ... they are replacing the 3 rolls from the bad box.  =
I asked
what they would like me to do with all the other materials of other sizes=
 &
bags, which I had purchased at the same time from Amazon.  They said to =
try them
& see if any are defective.  So, I guess I'm going to use these to vac =
seal the
bags of greens, which I haven't gotten around to yet, and see what =
happens.
While going through the re-sealing, I came up with an idea.  I can't say =
it's
brilliant ... as a matter of fact, I can't believe it took me this long =
to think
of it ... OTOH, I didn't realize how tight for space I am until the last =
couple
of days.  I had been letting the beans settle in the bag & then seal.  =
This
produced rounded bricks.  So huge amounts of space were being wasted when=
 I
loaded them into drawers.  I decided to try pushing the beans into a =
rectangular
shape before sealing, each of about the same width  & height, but varying=
 in
depth according do the amount of beans;  essentially, same size books =
with
varying numbers of pages.  This is so much more efficient & easier to =
handle!
So this means I now have to use beans from each rounded vac sealed bag, =
so I can
re-shape it into a rectangle when re-sealing to make room for more beans!=
  :)
Dave
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2) From: Aaron
You can shape the bags all you want but when you suck out the air to 
seal them, the beans are going to crunch up into what shape they want 
anyways as the bag pulls to them and kind of round out again anyways.   
Might hold some shape though.
aaron

3) From: David Morgenlender
It does to some degree, but it mostly holds its shape.  To help it, I =
keep my
hand on top holding the beans flat ... it requires almost no pressure =
though.
If it were sand, it would be tougher, but the beans have a tendency to =
lock in
place given a little pressure.
OTOH, the first time I tried to vac seal a loaf of bread, I didn't freeze=
 it
first ... I never knew a loaf of bread could occupy that small & funny a =
shape!
:)
Dave
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4) From: Coffeenut
Dave,
I use one of those thin plastic cutting boards (~ 3/8" thick) as a base,
then lay the Foodsaver bag with beans onto the board.  I insert the open end
of the bag in the Foodsaver, lock down the lid, engage the vacuum to just
pull the air-bubble from the bag and stop the vacuum when the surface of the
bag touches the beans.  At that point I can smooth out the beans in the bag
to an even level using the palms of my hands.  Then I do the final pull of
the vacuum.  The bags are flat and level which are easy to store.
Rick


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