Got a call from Joe today. Even though someone in China screwed up and lost my address, Joe got it shipped yesterday AND it already cleared customs in Alaska with ETA before 10:30AM tomorrow morning. So indeed looks like PNWG V antendees will be the first to see the new production model 1# roaster in action. Also, Joe is going to be able to make it too catching a 6:30AM flight for Portland Saturday. Now back to laua prep... Pacific Northwest Gathering Vhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGV.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
Sound like another outstanding PNWG! Mike you have me drooling over the dinner already. I'll bring some greens for us to roast too. Les On 6/14/07, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
Aaargh, I was so looking forward to this gathering. It would have been my first. But instead we will be leaving home before 7am to drive to Eugene to see my son get his masters degree. He is finishing his third year in a PhD program in computer science and decided to take his masters along the way. Sounds like Saturday is going to be quite the event. A new roaster, roasting demos, chocolate, fantastic food, plus meeting in person many of the folks on the list. Have a great time and I will plan to see you next year at PNWG VI and if lucky maybe I will meet some of you before then. dave On Jun 14, 2007, at 6:04 PM, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
Mike, Great news! Get lots of pictures and can't wait to see a full report! Wish I could join you all, hope everyone has a great time.
"...back to laua prep" Sure hope you're on good terms with laua! -ro On 6/14/07, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
I don't really expect to see a "great" commercially made mass marketed, kitchen counter "Home" roaster for a long time. Decent, with limitations, yes (Hottop, Gene and most likely the Behmor) but not what most of us are really looking for. I've been asked to present a design to a big foreign co. and have not yet done so. When realizing all the things you have to design into a mass marketed home consumer unit that have nothing to do with quality roasting like, idiot proof (the main one), no smoke, no noise,no venting, absolutely safe in every way, built great yet cheap, easy to use, attractive and on and on. With those kinds of obstacles and limitations is it really possible?
The design considerations listed below are what insure that "home roasting" will remain a hobby for the enthusiast. On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:54:56 -0400, Edward Bourgeois wrote: <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
Tom, you are so right about the grinder issue. However here is the big problem with all grinders. Say you spend the big bucks on the Rocky or the Mazzer Mini, then you need to educate people that about once a year or maybe even every six months you need to spend another hunk of change on swapping out the burrs! A good grinder with a burr set that could be simply changed at the $100.00 range would make a killing. Maybe they could even do the HP printer philosophy and change a little for the grinder and slam you with doubling the price of the burrs. Hey as long as I am thinking, they could even design them to stop working right just like a printer cartridge so you would have to buy the replacement when they were worn out! Les On 6/15/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote: <Snip>
The home roaster we all desire will have to be prosumer-commercial unit and only marketed as such to limit liabilities(because it won't be idiot proof)thus cannot be market focused to the masses. Without the starting volume of a mass market the roaster will need to start at a cottage industry production level. From there with success it will be able to leverage better production opportunities to reduce costs and price. Until then it's either a homebuild, modified mass market product or spend big bucks on an existing commercial. I think a prosumer-commercial roaster could be done in the 1500-2000 range with all the tricks and possibly 1000 minus a couple options.
Aaron wrote: <Snip> We did discuss Tom's review - all the more interesting for me as I hadn't read it. The points I came away with were that the machine Tom had used was an early prototype and changes had already been made. For instance the light was switched to provide better color view. The basket has been improved. Mike McKoffee has the unit, and a full work schedule that will prevent him from working with and commenting on the machine for a couple of weeks. Hang on folks, news based on a real unit coming soon. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be appropriate && Follow your curiosity http://www.patch.com/words/ The fortune cookie says: If you mess with a thing long enough, it'll break. -- Schmidt
Michael is correct, however Mike McKoffee is going to let Alchemist bring it south for a couple of weeks. Alchemist John and me are going to get to give the Behmor a work out for the next two weeks. I have a pound of Brazil Yellow Bourbon resting that was roasted in the Behmor outside yesterday. I am initially impressed with the machine for costing in the $300.00 range. The proof will be in the TV in the morning. I am also glad to see Gary is very committed to making a quality machine that will be affordable. I'll share some more impressions after I taste the roast. Les On 6/17/07, Michael Rasmussen wrote: <Snip>