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Topic: Diedrich HR-1 & roasting (2 msgs / 87 lines)
1) From: Jeffrey Pawlan
Les was correct when he wrote:
"People who buy Corvettes and Lamborghini's are assumed to know how to drive,
same with your machine."
Dietrich and Probat are in business to sell to qualified professional roasters.
They expect their customers already have plenty of "driving" experience.
The SCAA offers a couple of really useful hands-on beginners and intermediate
roasting classes at their annual conferences and they use several different
roasters from several different manufacturers. The students are divided up into
small groups and they are taught on one roaster. Then later they are rotated to
different roasters so everyone can get experience using different brands.
A Dietrich, a Probat, and an Ambex will roast the very same beans differently
even at the hands of a pro. The drums, the heat, and the air are all different.
Which is better? This is where taste comes in. The Dietrich IR might use less
gas but the taste will never ever equal a Probat. That is why Tom sold his
newer Dietrich and bought a second old Probat.
now for the news:
sorry it was impossible for me to come to WA to the PNWG. I am not only in the
midst of an important job, I am repairing my amateur radio antennas which were
damaged in the winter winds. AND I am continuing to forge ahead in the specialty
coffee industry, at considerable cost but I think worth it. In the last two
weeks I received a new espresso machine, a Nuova Simonelli custom made for me
with very good temperature regulation. I also purchased a Simonelli
semi-conical burr grinder. I also purchased a large assortment of
portafilter baskets and have been experimenting with the difference in flavors
from one basket shape and size to another. I even bought some of the LM
ridgeless ones to compare. I also have made the decision to no longer modify
hottops with my computer control. I have one new one left to sell and I will
possibly offer to sell one of my own two well used ones. This is because I now
have in my backyard two large wood crates containing a Probatino 1kg roaster and
an afterburner/chaff collector. They arrived a few days ago. I will modify it
for electronic control and them make a version of my program for it.
In the mean time, I have been very active moving things in my yard to make room
and lifting too much. So tomorrow I must go into surgery for a hernia. I am not
24 and invincible any longer but I am so healthy that I forget that I am 61.
When I get a shed for the roaster and have everything set up, then I will
announce a N CA gathering here. It will be a couple of months.
In the mean time, if anyone is interested in the computer controlled roasters
before they are gone from the market, let me know.
Regards,
Jeffrey Pawlan

2) From: Jeff Pentel
Hey Jeffrey,
If you're only selling a machine, I agree with the analogy. But  
offering the seminar, especially the way they advertised it, is like  
selling a car and then offering a driving course and promising to  
teach you the finer points, but then just giving you the keys and  
saying, "Hey, we can't tell you how to react, go figure it out  
yourself and watch out for the other guy! Good luck!!" And charging  
money for it.
Their web site promises very specific things about roasting and  
flavor http://www.diedrichroasters.com/seminaroverview.html),but  
they avoided every question regarding that. Bullet point #3 on the  
web page was never covered in the class.
Tom sold a newer Diedrich for an older Probat? Now you've got my  
attention! I'd like to know more about that. Taste, as you might  
guess, is what I'm after.
Jeff
On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Jeffrey Pawlan wrote:
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