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Topic: fountain pens and good coffee (42 msgs / 1218 lines)
1) From: Dan Mouer
Oh Jeez...me too!
And I'm searching for some Shaeffer Peacock Blue ink!
Dan

2) From:
email michael guterman:   	  Michael Guterman   
 roaster, list member, has more pens then anyone I know and cannot stop buying!!
he and I also collect pocket watches
ginny
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3) From: Slinkster
Dan Mouer wrote:
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Levenger's "Cobalt Blue" is a close match for Shaeffer's Peacock Blue - 
it is a very bright blue, not the dusky blue-black made famous by Waterman.
Speaking of fountain pens, my daily writer for these past 20-odd years 
is a refurbished Pelikan that belong to my grandfather.  A jewelry shop 
in Chicago (which is alas no longer in business) did the refurb for me 
when I was in college.  The pen is no longer "original" as I had the 
bladder replaced with a converter but it writes well and has much 
authority in the hand.
I have many other fountain pens ranging from rare/collector to those 
weird disposables Pilot made several years ago but the Pelikan is the 
pen that goes everywhere with me.
ObCoffee:  Ordered resupply of espresso blends and some SO beans 
yesterday when the website came up.  Puro Scuro in the cup at the moment 
with plans for some Nic. Esteli Miraflor in the press later...  I'm also 
ordering new gaskets and O-rings plus a new brew valve for the little 
Gaggia so I can rehome it to a starving student who spends way too much 
cash at *$...

4) From: Greg Scace
Yeah, me too, but I don't actively collect old pens.  I have a Parker 
Vacumatic that is a good writer and some day I'll score a really nice 
Parker 51, but I use an Omas Celluloid and an ST Dupont daily.  I'm 
not a fan of Montblanc - they're the Starbux of pens, although I do 
have one of their Writers Series (Proust).
-Greg
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5) From: john nanavati
I love fountain pens and pocket watches!!
boy, i sure hope no one from direct marketing is watching.
John Nanavati, DHI, CIT
Plainfield, New Jersey

6) From: Jason Brooks
Shortly before coffee each morning now, I'm doing some writing with a
vintage Parker Vaccumatic, circa 1939-1941.  Love it!
Jason
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7) From:
write me off list, I have a couple of 14/18 K pocket watches I may sell.
email me macdva
ginny
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8) From: Florida Randy
Oh no...I may just have discovered that my mistress and my wife have met
and become best friends....
Routinely during the "work" day I sneak a peek at recent posts on
Fountain Pen Network having recently "re-discovered" fountain pens after
finding the exact brown striated model my Dad had when I was a kid.
It used to be that the only "sneak peeks" during the day were here....
Guess I'll have to make a few coffee posts in the Parker room over at
FPN.
Actually I've been thinking that FP's and good coffee do make good
bedfellows.  I've even thought that a coffee house that featured FP's
and journaling might be a great marriage.
Randy in Florida
PS - Now all I'll have to do is wonder how many FP/Coffee fans watch F1!
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9) From: Florida Randy
Greg - write me offlist.  I have a 1946 Parker 51 I will be selling soon
if you're interested.
Randy in Florida
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10) From:
you pen freaks are nuts!!
love ya all,
ginny
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11) From: Roger Lebow
I'm in the same Luddite boat. Weird demographics, yeah? Maybe it's 
something in the coffee (he said, swerving vertiginously back to 
topic)?
Roger
Sierra Madre, CA
On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:15 AM, john nanavati wrote:
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12) From: Greg Scace
This goes from bad to worse. I went to the USGP last weekend and took 
my usual 380 pix or so.  Send me yer email and I'll send you a pretty 
good shot of Hamilton in the Esses after the back straight.
email at gscace at nist dot gov
Barry Jarrett met me there and we camped across from the track (Lot 
1A).  He brought his aluminum Foodservice Direct Vac pot, some Harrar 
he is selling from his roasting coffee (rileys coffee), and a 
Columbian.  I brought some of that Misty Valley stuff I got from some 
fanatical green coffee purveyor in California.  We drank very good 
coffee and watched a very good motor race.
A true story:  I had 4 tickets for the USGP.  The seats have an 
unobstructed view of the main straight, pits, first corner, and all 
corners up to the entrance to the back straight.  In my opinion this 
is the best spot from which to watch a road race at Indy.  This year 
I had two extra tickets, since the guy who was gonna use one backed 
out of going several weeks in advance of the race.  Barry mentioned 
to a friend of his, who lives in Indianapolis, that I had two 
tix.  Barry's friend wanted both.  So I thought I was in pretty good 
shape with all of my spare tickets spoken for.  Barry got a call on 
Friday mid-day from his friend who bailed and left me with the two 
tickets.  On one hand, the guy was getting married the following 
week, but on the other hand he said he wanted them and then he bailed 
at the last minute, which was more than somewhat annoying.  After 
Friday Practice, we went to visit an acquaintance of Barry's, named 
BJ, who bought a coffee shop north of the racetrack.  The shop is 
called B Java.  We visited B Java for two reasons.  Reason 1 was that 
we wanted to get an espresso (I didn't buy a generator this year so I 
couldn't run an espresso machine at the campground), and second was 
that Barry wanted to see how BJ was getting on with her new shop.  So 
we walk in, ask for espressos and watch the preparation.  Dunno how 
many here know of Barry, but he is a highly respected roaster, coffee 
shop owner, and he's sought after as a tech judge for  barista 
competitions.  Barry was a tech judge at the USBC finals this 
year.  He knows his shit.  We both notice that the Astoria 2-group 
has bottomless portafilters in the groups, the young woman running 
the machine is paying attention to her process and the pours out of 
the machine look GOOD.  We both get served coffees with thick crema 
of appropriate color, excellent mouthfeel, and nice chocolate 
taste.  How about that!  I can't remember ever walking into an 
unknown coffee shop in an unfamiliar city in the US and getting a 
REAL Espresso.  We are both pretty impressed, compliment the barista 
and order another.  Once again we get excellence.  Of course such 
good work deserves reward, so the barista and her fiance, an espresso 
tech, joined us for the race.
-Greg
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13) From: Greg Scace
Yeah, but it's pretty hard to write with a watch.  On the other hand 
you can use a pen as a sundial.
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14) From: Sandy Andina
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Actually, Sheaffer Peacock Blue was a vibrant turquoise--the closest  
I've seen still being made is Waterman South Seas Blue; Dupont  
Turquoise comes close, Omas and Visconti a bit more subdued. Go to  
www.pendemonium.com and look up the color charts for Noodler's and  
Private Reserve brand inks to see what turquoises they offer. As to  
Levenger's, I've found that Blue Bahama is almost turquoise, and that  
Skies of Blue is much closer to Sheaffer Peacock Blue than is Cobalt,  
which is a true blue.  (In fact, if you mix Blue Bahama and Skies of  
Blue you might have a pretty good substitute for Sheaffer Peacock).   
But I miss the old Sheaffer bottles (with the built-in inkwell)  
almost as much as I do the ink colors. (I hoard the bottles once  
empty). Those new colors and plain bottles made in Slovenia just  
don't do it for me.....
On Jun 19, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Dan Mouer wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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Actually, Sheaffer Peacock Blue =
was a vibrant turquoise--the closest I've seen still being made is =
Waterman South Seas Blue; Dupont Turquoise comes close, Omas and =
Visconti a bit more subdued. Go to www.pendemonium.com and look up =
the color charts for Noodler's and Private Reserve brand inks to see =
what turquoises they offer. As to Levenger's, I've found that Blue =
Bahama is almost turquoise, and that Skies of Blue is much closer to =
Sheaffer Peacock Blue than is Cobalt, which is a true blue.  (In fact, =
if you mix Blue Bahama and Skies of Blue you might have a pretty good =
substitute for Sheaffer Peacock).  But I miss the old Sheaffer bottles =
(with the built-in inkwell) almost as much as I do the ink colors. (I =
hoard the bottles once empty). Those new colors and plain bottles made =
in Slovenia just don't do it for me.....
On Jun 19, 2007, =
at 9:29 AM, Dan Mouer wrote:
Oh Jeez...me too! And I'm = searching for some Shaeffer Peacock Blue ink!

15) From:
greg,
i knew I loved you when I read your first post.
ginny
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16) From:
check noodler's ink as sandy suggests
they have some great stuff.
ginny
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17) From: JanoMac
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Count me in, too. I am an Estie man. Started collecting Esterbrook FPs and
Esterbrook (and others) dip pen nibs to replace stuff in my calligraphy kit.
I ended up liking the celluloid Esties better than my original Osmiroid, and
now use them regularly.
Coffee & old FPs do go together. I even made a brown/sepia ink from some
espresso.
* A demitase of slightly dehydrated espresso (let it sit open overnight)
* A touch of methanol
* A few grains of gum arabic
Results: a fairly nice brown resulted that was a little more rich than my
walnut brown and less acidic and corroding on my dip nibs...but didn't hold
up to aging as well. Faded more quickly than walnut ink.
Maybe I need to roast a single origin Indonesian to French Roast or darker
to get the oils out and make it hold color longer? 
Last pull wasn't the "god-shot" you were hoping for? Make it into ink!
Kirk

18) From: Greg Scace
That way you can scribble on your stomach.
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19) From:
Kirk:
Love it:
God Shot Espresso, the ink from Beyond!!
ginny
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20) From: Dan Mouer
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Thank you fo that link. My life may be saved....

21) From: Mark Bartkowiak
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My wife is looking for an ink bottle that has a well in it so she can =
refill the fountain pens I turned for her.
So I guess I need to join P.A.(Pens Anonymous) also, hehehehe.
Mark B.  Midland, NC

22) From: Sandy Andina
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Check eBay (sometimes there are people selling vintage Sheaffer inks  
like even the fabled Persian Rose) and antique stores--I found some  
vintage Skrip Washable Blue and Brown that way.  You'll find the  
bottles at pen shows, and sometimes in that vanishing breed of  
emporia known as "stationers."
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Sandy Andina
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Check eBay (sometimes there are =
people selling vintage Sheaffer inks like even the fabled Persian Rose) =
and antique stores--I found some vintage Skrip Washable Blue and Brown =
that way.  You'll find the bottles at pen shows, and sometimes in that =
vanishing breed of emporia known as "stationers."
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19, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Mark Bartkowiak wrote:
My wife is looking = for an ink bottle that has a well in it so she can refill the fountain = pens I turned for her.So I guess I need to join P.A.(Pens Anonymous) also, = hehehehe  = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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23) From: Brian Kamnetz
For whatever odd reason, this thread makes me think of the old Dylan song,
Subterranean Homesick Blues:
"Get sick, get well Hang around a ink well, Ring bell, hard to tell If
anything is goin' to sell, Try hard, get barred...."
Brian
On 6/19/07, Mark Bartkowiak  wrote:
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24) From: john nanavati
i love pendemonium - what a great site
On 6/19/07, Dan Mouer  wrote:
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25) From: Homeroaster
Great story.  I'm drooling over the ticket thing though.  I live 100 miles 
south of Indy and would have zipped up to see you guys and the race in a 
heartbeat.
*********************
Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
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26) From: Amy Bailey
Pendemonium is/are very nice people.  I happen to like the waterproof
Noodlers inks, and bought my first from Pendemonium at a pen show.  (I also
get them by mail from Swisher Pens.)  Since I tend to baptise paper with
water and coffee, waterproofness is a good thing.
I suppose since this is my first post, I should introduce myself.  Hello, my
name is Amy and I roast coffee and like fountain pens.  Is this CRaFPA?
(Coffee Roasters and Fountain Pens Anonymous - a pronounceable acronym!)
I've had my 8-sampler pack from SM for a week now, and am using a popper
from ebay.  And I hate writing with anything besides fountain pens.  I do
have a ball point fitted with a Fisher Pen refill for times when a FP won't
do.
            ---Amy
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27) From: Jim Carter
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Welcome to the list, Amy. I suppose standing in a fountain with a ball 
point pen would not yield the desired result. A waterproof pen would 
help, but you might also need waterproof paper.
-- JC
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28) From: Florida Randy
Welcome Amy -
I'm sure several of us have had a grin or two watching this FP & Coffee
thread develop over the last 2 days.  I've discovered home roasting and
FP's all since the first of the year....what a blessing....or is that
curse????
As a fellow wet paper maker I too share your interest in Noodler's.  Old
Manhattan Black (Fountain Pen Hospital in NY exclusive) and Red are my
everyday inks at the office with Waterman Florida Blue and Havana Brown
along side when the mood strikes me.  The Old Manhattan lives in a 1946
Parker Vac Major (blue) and 1960 Parker 61 Gold Signet), Red in a 2007
Waterman Hemisphere (red barrel of course), the Florida Blue in a Parker
51 (blue barrel & lustoroy cap), while the Havana Brown is loaded in a
2007 Waterman Carene Amethyst Bronze Gold.
Sure glad I haven't fallen in love with other ink colors.....might have
to buy more pens!!!
Enjoy your time here.
Randy in Florida
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29) From: Amy Bailey
You have come to the right addict.  Waterproof "paper" does exist.http://www.riteintherain.com/          ---Amy
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30) From: Amy Bailey
Randy,
Right now I have Noodler's Green Marine and Lexington Gray mixed in a
Pelikan Level 5, Kiowa Pecan in a black Rotring Initial, Black in a white
Monteverde Diva, and Green Marine set up for my dip pen.  I'm thinking of
getting Noodler's Navy to mix with the green and gray.  When the Pelikan
still had a bit of Pelikan Blue in it, I really liked the color mix with the
green and gray.  I write on HP's 32 lb premium, it makes life so much better
all around.
Thanks for the welcome, I've enjoyed reading things so far.  I just felt I
had to jump in when a conversation came up that I could actually contribute
to.  :)
                  ---Amy
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31) From: Sandy Andina
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Welcome aboard, Amy!  As my sig file on the Acoustic Guitar Forum  
says, life's too short to drink bad coffee, play crummy guitars and  
write with ballpoint pens!
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Welcome aboard, Amy!  As my =
sig file on the Acoustic Guitar Forum says, life's too short to drink =
bad coffee, play crummy guitars and write with ballpoint =
pens!
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Jim Carter =
wrote:
Welcome to the list, Amy. I suppose standing in a = fountain with a ball point pen would not yield the desired result. A = waterproof pen would help, but you might also need waterproof paper. = -- JC Amy Bailey wrote: Pendemonium is/are very nice people.  I happen to = like the waterproof Noodlers inks, and bought my first from Pendemonium = at a pen show.  (I also get them by mail from Swisher Pens.)  Since = I tend to baptise paper with water and coffee, waterproofness is a = good thing.   I suppose since this is my = first post, I should introduce myself.  Hello, my name is Amy and I = roast coffee and like fountain pens.  Is this CRaFPA?  (Coffee = Roasters and Fountain Pens Anonymous - a pronounceable acronym!) I've = had my 8-sampler pack from SM for a week now, and am using a popper = from ebay.  And I hate writing with anything besides fountain pens. = I do have a ball point fitted with a Fisher Pen refill for times when a = FP won't do.              =   ---Amy   On 6/19/07, = john nanavati <coffee> = wrote: i love pendemonium - what a great site On 6/19/07, Dan = Mouer <dan.mouer > wrote: = = Thank you fo that link. My life may be saved.... = ----- Original = Message ----- From: Sandy Andina = To: = homeroast = Sent: Tuesday, = June 19, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: +fountain pens and good = coffee   Actually, Sheaffer Peacock Blue = was a vibrant turquoise--the closest I've seen still being made is = Waterman South Seas Blue; Dupont Turquoise comes close, Omas and = Visconti a bit more subdued. Go to = www.pendemonium.com and look up the color charts for Noodler's and = Private Reserve brand inks to see what turquoises they offer. As to = Levenger's, I've found that Blue Bahama is almost turquoise, and that = Skies of Blue is much closer to Sheaffer Peacock Blue than is Cobalt, = which is a true blue.  (In fact, if you mix Blue Bahama and Skies of = Blue you might have a pretty good substitute for Sheaffer Peacock).  = But I miss the old Sheaffer bottles (with the built-in inkwell) almost = as much as I do the ink colors. (I hoard the bottles once empty). Those = new colors and plain bottles made in Slovenia just don't do it for = me..... On Jun 19, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Dan = Mouer wrote: = No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/854 - Release Date: 6/19/2007 = 1:12 PM Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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32) From: Jim Carter
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why is it that all of a sudden, I feel like I have to get a $200 pen?
-- JC
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33) From: Sandy Andina
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You'd be surprised what $20-30 will get you when it comes to even a  
new fountain pen!
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34) From:
Sandy:
I agree...
I bought an Aurora Afrika for my biz partner two years ago, we decided to end the partnership so I never gave her the pen!
I love my Afrika!!
ginny
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35) From: Amy Bailey
None of my pens have yet been over $55, including shipping.  All were on
sale, or repaired, or via E-bay.  Of course, I have probably spent over $200
total on pens and ink, but I have 5 pens, an inkwell and dip pen, and 4
colors of Noodler's ink.  You just gotta hunt out the cheaper ones.  I put
them into pants pockets and tend drop them, so I'd still be a bit worried
about a super-expensive one.  And 2 of my pens are airplane-friendly (the
Rotring Initial and Pelikan Level.)
             ---Amy
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36) From: Brett Mason
Amy that's terrific!
I can also say that none of my guitar strings has costed me more than $55 -
with several guitars, I have also spent over $200 on supplies along the
way.  But God Bless those strings - they're everything to me, at least to my
guitar's sound...
Also, I used my Aeropress for the first time about an hour ago.  Did rather
nicely.  I want to work it a bunch more times before I give any "real"
review, as I imagine my technique will improve a lot.  I had not expected to
become an AeroPressor - but Fathers Day revivedf the opportunity, and, well,
here I am.  (Sated Coffee Pig - yep, that's me!)
Brett
On 6/22/07, Amy Bailey  wrote:
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37) From:
are you the guy that people say is a pain in the butt?
you like the aero press?
bird
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38) From: Sheila Quinn
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I hadn't expected to become an AeroPresser either, but alas, I did buy 
one and love it! I also found a Krups Moka Brew in the store about a 
week ago. Not that I needed it, but how could I resist? So along with my 
pen collection, I guess I'm also working on a coffee brewer collection.
Sheila
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yep that's you...
ginny
ya really like the aero press?
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40) From: Brett Mason
It's OK.  I am not certain whether I do or don't. The coffee seems better
than my mokkapot.  But I need to work it until I love it like my French
Press.  So I will play with roast and grind.  But when I am done, I will get
the sweetest nectar I can...
Hey I stayed over at Susan Oppenheim's in Toronto.  She is a really
interesting gal.  One thing for certain - when she advocates something, she
totally goes for it.  She's lived in South and Central America, trying to
make things better directly.  She's not a conservative republican like me,
but doing what she can as she sees it, best I can tell...  Was a nice
visit.  Toronto reminded me of New York a lot.  Hours of traffic, but lots
of cultures to hang out in too...
Hugs,
B
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41) From: Michael Mccandless
So . . . do you use it to stir your coffee?
McSparky
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42) From: Peter Z
So a few years ago my wife bought me a Mont Blanc fountain pen for my 
birthday.
I asked for one because I thought that it would help me write more clearly.
Honestly, it did not help a bit.
But along those lines, I have been buying every trinket that even 
remotely looks like it can be used to roast coffee.
Well, this is a better way to spend money than buying pen stuff :)
Even though it is not much money at a time.
I CAN Roast COFFEE better than I had ever thought possible,
and much better than I can write.
That being said, I would rather use a keyboard than any kind of pen, any 
day.
Actually, I would rather roast coffee than use a pen, and rather buy 
coffee roasting stuff than pen and ink stuff.
No one ever said that I am not weird.
PeterZ
Color me roasting, here in LHC
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