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Topic: Luwak Coffee (9 msgs / 201 lines)
1) From: John Blumel

2) From: Tim TenClay
Well... It's official, I've now brewed my first cup of Lowak.  Yes...
Our house has broken into the realm of civited coffee.  How?/Why?/You
really spent the money on that?
Let me explain....  Last week I facilitated a seminar for a handful of
seminarians from around our denomination at our denominational General
Synod.  To make a long story short, I roasted the coffee that our
group drank all week and the students, as a thank you gift, ordered me
a half a pound of Lowak, which came today.  It's a half a pound, in a
beautiful wooden box with a certificate of authenticity and... get
this... A sample of what "it" looks like before it's been cleaned up
and roasted.  The "sample" is encased in rosin.
My wife doesn't like it.  It's a very earthy flavor.  She says it
tastes like dirt... I wouldn't go that far, but it is earthy may be
something of an understatement.  I wish I were a better cupper so I
could give you more details.  We'll see as the brews progress.  This
is my first cup... there are more to come :-)
What a great opportunity.  In public (although none of them are on the
list): THANKS.
Grace and Peace,
 `tim
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3) From: Justin Nevins
Dirt was my review..."earthy" just doesn't quite cover it. glad you got to
try it. It makes you appreciate SM coffee more...
cue jokes about cat crap...
Justin Nevins
On 6/19/07, Tim TenClay  wrote:
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4) From: Brentley Beerline
there is a big article in wine spectator this month on Luwak and how it is authenticated and some other things.  Fairly interesting.  
----- Original Message ----
From: Justin Nevins 
To: homeroast
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:51:13 PM
Subject: Re: +Luwak Coffee
Dirt was my review..."earthy" just doesn't quite cover it. glad you got to try it. It makes you appreciate SM coffee more...
cue jokes about cat crap...
Justin Nevins
On 6/19/07, Tim TenClay  wrote:
Well... It's official, I've now brewed my first cup of Lowak.  Yes...
Our house has broken into the realm of civited coffee.  How?/Why?/You
really spent the money on that?
Let me explain....  Last week I facilitated a seminar for a handful of 
seminarians from around our denomination at our denominational General
Synod.  To make a long story short, I roasted the coffee that our
group drank all week and the students, as a thank you gift, ordered me
a half a pound of Lowak, which came today.  It's a half a pound, in a
beautiful wooden box with a certificate of authenticity and... get
this... A sample of what "it" looks like before it's been cleaned up 
and roasted.  The "sample" is encased in rosin.
My wife doesn't like it.  It's a very earthy flavor.  She says it
tastes like dirt... I wouldn't go that far, but it is earthy may be
something of an understatement.  I wish I were a better cupper so I
could give you more details.  We'll see as the brews progress.  This
is my first cup... there are more to come :-)
What a great opportunity.  In public (although none of them are on the 
list): THANKS.
Grace and Peace,
`tim
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Do not forward without permission of the original author.
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Dunningville Reformed Church (www.dunningville.org)
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5) From: Jason
I know I will regret asking this question, but how does one authenticate poop?
On 6/19/07, Brentley Beerline  wrote:
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6) From: Jim Carter
if it smells like poop, and it looks like poop, it's probably well, um, 
poop. Alternatively, I suppose they could interview the Luwak.
-- JC
Jason wrote:
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7) From: Brentley Beerline
So as the article states, fakes are common in the liwak trade.  So there is a food chemist in Ontario Canada named Massimo Marcone, who has established a protocol to authenticart Liwak beans.  He did this for the discovery channel in 2002.  He used beans from the same plantation to establish a baseline and then examined the "processed beans"
Basically he discovery the following.
1.  That there was less bacteria on the Liwak beans (most likely as they are washed more than regular coffee beans are.
2.  Liwak beans have a distinctive chemical signiture as part of the processing.
3.  Liwak beans show pitting that is not present on the control beans.
But the most interesting thing that he has found is that slightly less than half the beans he test turn out to be fake.
The article is available here to subscribers only thoughhttp://www.winespectator.com/Wine/Free/Feature_Teaser_Page?page_id=/Wine/Archives/Show_Article/0,,6062,00.htmlSo that is how you autheticate poop.
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From: Jason 
To: homeroast
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:34:25 AM
Subject: Re: +Luwak Coffee
I know I will regret asking this question, but how does one authenticate poop?
On 6/19/07, Brentley Beerline  wrote:
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8) From: Jason
Intresting, Can't read the article because it is for subscribers
only... but I do find it intresting as a fad... much like our own bird
poo coffee, which I did order a lb of to try out, jjust for the fun of
it... should arrive tomarrow. :)
On 6/20/07, Brentley Beerline  wrote:
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9) From: raymanowen
Oh, Hallelujah!
Good News:
"But the most interesting thing that he has found is that slightly less than
half the beans he test turn out to be fake."
That's the most hope-instilling statement I've read in a while.
Step 1 below would be accomplished in my trailer with a 3,000psi Hotsy steam
cleaner. The beans that land back in my trailer space are the ones I would
bother roasting. I'm sure I could either get most of them into the field on
the other side of the hard road, or reload a few shotshells with green
"coffee."
Ain't doin' no stinking Shat Cit in my roaster- Well Dung.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Anybody got a Spare Grinder?


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