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Topic: First Try with a bread machine (5 msgs / 157 lines)
1) From: Scott Petersen
Well, I figured I would go whole hog and try a 1 pound roast in my old 
bread machine with my heat gun without any testing at all. Gotta live 
dangerously. I knew I was pretty well covered as I normally roast with a 
heat gun/dog bowl and had that standing by in case there was a problem.
I was roasting Ethiopian Organic Dry Process Sidamo. (I love this bean!)
Into the bread pan it goes, select the dough cycle and press start. Turn 
on the heat gun and away we go. At first it was a pulse type cycle and I 
noticed that the count down timer said 1 hour and 3 minutes.
Everything was going very smoothly at the 3 minute mark as the machine 
switched to a constant spin from the pulse. Chaff really started to fly 
at the 4 minute mark, a little slower than my 1/2 pound roasts in the 
dog bowl but still fine.
Then a potential disaster at the 4:30 mark. The bread machine just shut 
off. The display was still lit but no motion from the paddle. When I 
clicked stop and then start again the display said "HI" so I knew that 
it had overheated. The disaster was averted as I quickly dumped the 
beans into the dog bowl and continued the roast. I will find out 
tomorrow how the roast came out. I pulled it at the 14:30 mark which was 
about 45 seconds after first crack finished and it looks and smells 
normal so I don't think the small delay (about 15 seconds) hurt anything.
I will be dismantling the bread machine in the next couple of weeks and 
removing the thermostat that I expect is attached to the side of the 
baking (roasting) chamber.
I gotta say thanks to Kris for talking about her Bread Machine roasting 
at the PNWG V and answering my questions about it. It inspired me to 
give it a try. And yes, I am starting a search for a moka pot. There is 
an Italian grocer/deli/bakery nearby that has a large selection. I never 
looked at them in earnest before but will the next time I am there.
Cheers
Scott Petersen

2) From: Vicki Smith
Welcome to the weird world of bread machine coffee roasting. Last week I 
realized that I have not used my iRoast2 in about six months--even when 
it meant spending time in my -30 (C) garage playing with a heat gun. 
I've now done over 100 roasts with it.
It's viral you know. I've infected co-workers, neighbours, and 
family--none of whom could imagine roasting coffee until they had seen 
me roast with the bread machine/heat gun.
vicki
Scott Petersen wrote:
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3) From: Kris McN
Ho HO!  Awesome.  Sorry, I should've warned you about the thermostat - my
first roast was cut short as well.  Also, since I don't use the machine for
bread at all, my husband ground down the end of the paddle a bit, otherwise
with larger beans one would occasionally jam between the wall and the paddle
tip - FYI.
I'm drinking some moka pot Moka Kadir at the moment - you WON'T be
disappointed.  I am going Aeropress shopping myself this weekend - so, right
back at ya.
Kris McN

4) From: Kris Bhatti
I've been reading this list for a while but this is my first post.  Finally, something I can contribute!  I bought a second bread machine this week as a backup - hate to think of being without a functioning bread machine now that I'm hooked on roasting.  I had the exact same experience with shutdown after 4:30.  Since this was a backup machine and I'd only paid $3.50 for it, I figured I'd risk opening it up.  It was super easy to see the thermocouple wires attached to the side and I removed them and just tucked them back away from the roasting chamber.  I also did some other stuff in there, but will save those details for another post if you're interested.  Since I wanted to make sure I hadn't screwed anything up, I tested the machine before  trying to roast again.  Guess what - it still shut down after 4:30!  So I just left it alone and it came back on after another 5 minutes.  Since I've never actually used a bread machine for anything dough related, I never imagined
 there would be a resting period in the dough cycle.  I learned that if I turn it on, set a timer for 10 minutes, the machine would start back up and run for 20 minutes.  That's more than enough time for my 1 lb roasts.  I don't know if the thermocouple was actually ever a problem or not, but I roasted a nice batch after I got the thing put back together.  My other bread machine has only shut down on me when I tried roasting less than a pound and I have not done any modifications on that one.  
You've probably seen this before, but here is what the thermocouples looked like: http://www.geocities.com/krisbhatti/images/IMG_1017.JPG 
For any future bread machines that I get, I will definitely test the dough cycle first thing without heat and beans to find out that machine's agenda.  Oh yes, there will be more machines...
Take care,
Kris
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Petersen 
To: homeroast
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:57:46 PM
Subject: +First Try with a bread machine
Well, I figured I would go whole hog and try a 1 pound roast in my old 
bread machine with my heat gun without any testing at all. Gotta live 
dangerously. I knew I was pretty well covered as I normally roast with a 
heat gun/dog bowl and had that standing by in case there was a problem.
I was roasting Ethiopian Organic Dry Process Sidamo. (I love this bean!)
Into the bread pan it goes, select the dough cycle and press start. Turn 
on the heat gun and away we go. At first it was a pulse type cycle and I 
noticed that the count down timer said 1 hour and 3 minutes.
Everything was going very smoothly at the 3 minute mark as the machine 
switched to a constant spin from the pulse. Chaff really started to fly 
at the 4 minute mark, a little slower than my 1/2 pound roasts in the 
dog bowl but still fine.
Then a potential disaster at the 4:30 mark. The bread machine just shut 
off. The display was still lit but no motion from the paddle. When I 
clicked stop and then start again the display said "HI" so I knew that 
it had overheated. The disaster was averted as I quickly dumped the 
beans into the dog bowl and continued the roast. I will find out 
tomorrow how the roast came out. I pulled it at the 14:30 mark which was 
about 45 seconds after first crack finished and it looks and smells 
normal so I don't think the small delay (about 15 seconds) hurt anything.
I will be dismantling the bread machine in the next couple of weeks and 
removing the thermostat that I expect is attached to the side of the 
baking (roasting) chamber.
I gotta say thanks to Kris for talking about her Bread Machine roasting 
at the PNWG V and answering my questions about it. It inspired me to 
give it a try. And yes, I am starting a search for a moka pot. There is 
an Italian grocer/deli/bakery nearby that has a large selection. I never 
looked at them in earnest before but will the next time I am there.
Cheers
Scott Petersen

5) From: Mark Bartkowiak
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Most breadmachine makers have their instructions and cooking guide =
online, so with model number and maker name one could just look up the =
timing of the dough cycle. My Goldstar HB-202CE has a 6 minute 1st =
knead, 5 minute rest and 12 minute 2nd knead. My wife has taken over =
this machine to actually make bread with and I got the Breadman Pro =
which she didn't like.The Breadman Pro has a 3 minute 1st knead then a =
27 minute 2nd knead which is more than enough for a 1 pound roast. I'm =
betting it can do a 1.5 pound roast but haven't tried it yet. I ended up =
moving both the thermolimiter and the heat sensor to the outside of the =
machine.
Mark B. Midland, NC


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