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Topic: Dreaded "Black Beans" in Decaf ? (9 msgs / 166 lines)
1) From: Justin Marquez
I roasted a little decaf this week and found quite few of what I would have
called "black beans" if it had been in regular coffee. They were quite a bit
more compacted looking than the rest of the beans and decidedly darker in
color and more solid in that darkness.  I was surprised to find 4 or 5 in a
cup and a half of the unroasted beans. I tossed 'em out prior to roasting
the batch.
This is not the first time I have found beans looking like this in "green"
decaf.
Does anyone else notice more "black beans" in decaf than in regular?
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

2) From:
Justin:
Where did you get those greens?
ginny
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3) From: Brett Mason
I found those "black beans" in the Kopi-Rabbit blend I bought the other
day...
Brett
P.S. late spew alert....
On 6/22/07, Justin Marquez  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

4) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
which decaf? i have never noticed/cupped black beans in decaf... we 
had a brazil decaf sample that came in incredibly phenolic - tasted 
like rotten eggs. we rejected that. black beans are more than 
appearance, they will be very pronounced and foul in the cup.
tom
I roasted a little decaf this week and found quite few of what I 
would have called "black beans" if it had been in regular coffee. 
They were quite a bit more compacted looking than the rest of the 
beans and decidedly darker in color and more solid in that darkness. 
I was surprised to find 4 or 5 in a cup and a half of the unroasted 
beans. I tossed 'em out prior to roasting the batch.
This is not the first time I have found beans looking like this in 
"green" decaf.
Does anyone else notice more "black beans" in decaf than in regular?
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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5) From: Michael Mccandless
Harrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
That's a keeper.
McSparrrrrky
On 6/22/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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6) From: Justin Marquez
The current Guat Finca Injertal WP Decaf. If you want I can see if I find
more and could take a digi pix so you can see what I see and advise me if I
am just being too picky.  I can't imagine I would happen to get *all* the
beans looking like this in a 1.5 cup batch dug at random out of a 5# bag.  I
always look thru a batch before and after roasting to try and catch any
debris or funky-looking beans.
I should hasten to add that the decaf tastes great, but I had already picked
out the questionable beans. I would not hesitate to order it again.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 6/22/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee 
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7) From: Larry English
Justin,
  I'd like to see pix, alongside non-defect beans from the same lot.  I've
never encountered "black beans" in decaf pre-roast, but I've found a few in
regular lots.  They usually have a "smut" odor - "smut" being what we called
a fungal infestation in wheat crops back on the farm.  Did your defects have
an unusually odor?
Larry
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8) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
I am going to do a roast seeded with those black beans and see what 
the cup is like. Decaf process discolors beans in odd ways. I am not 
sure those are black, but I wonder why they take on a different color 
than the others... i will get back to you, and i just got the pics so 
thanks Justin
Tom
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                   "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com                Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com
     Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA
             phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com

9) From: Justin Marquez
The "black" ones seemed smaller or maybe slightly shriveled looking to me in
addition to the color diff.  So you were able to find some in the whse stock
that looked like the ones in the pix?
I just started seriously culling beans not too far back in time and I had
actually done a couple of 250 gr batches of the lot in question  before I
started poring thru - basically I had NOT been digging in the decaf greens
and decided to start with them, too. That's when I discovered the blackies.
The earlier two roasts (with unknown black bean content) tasted just fine,
which is kind of the source of my "Am I just being too picky?" question.
Now I have dug into two batches and found about 5 funky-looking beans in
each batch. Actually I have only roasted one of those - the second "batch"
was just a sorting sample to document what I was seeing.
Thanks for checking into it for us with your calibrated taste buds.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 6/25/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee 
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