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Topic: searching the archives for roasting theory and roast profiles (7 msgs / 187 lines)
1) From:
Morning all.  Two questions:
1.  Any ideas how to quickly search the list archives?  ie, type in "roast" and every subject with roast comes up.
2. If not, I'm trying to work out this roast profile thing.  I have a modified popper.  Trying to follow a roast profile doesn't really work for me-My thermometer is probed into the beans, but in the first few minutes, it truly measures AIR temp and not bean temp (I know my beans don't reach 350 deg in 60 seconds like it reads).  What I'm trying to figure out is more the roast curve-should I get to 1st crack quickly then drop my heat and slow roast with a somewhat even temp the rest of the time, or try a nice slow gradual climb in temp?  The former seems to yield quite an active 1st crack, the latter generally only a few cracks (yet seems to match most of the roast profiles I've seen)  Or does Ken's roast book give the theory?  Thanks for your help!
Tim

2) From: Brett Mason
1. Get GMAIL.
   OK, here come all the others who will say that the other email systems
wrk just as wel, blah blah.
 But to answer your question, get GMAIL.  Everything searches really well
that way.
2. IMO get to first by 4 minutes, and 2nd by 9 minutes.
Brett
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
1. The SM maintained archives are not searchable. The Meyers maintained
archives are searchable, see my sigtag for link.
2. The best profile teacher is your palate. Roast multiple batches of same
bean to same degree of roast and compare. That said I disagree with Brett
and find hitting 1st in 4 minutes with an air roaster can A. sometimes yield
grassy roast (not drying properly to setup up roast reactions in the bean)
B. a thin unbalanced roast with much less body. 
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4) From: Brett Mason
And 3. your recommendation is?
We agree, you're not yet helping on this one...
Brett
On 6/30/07, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Oh really, not helping? (And You are the We agreeing?)
 
His first question was how to search the archives, I gave the link to
searchable archives.
 
His second question was whether fast or slow to first was best. I answered
his palate was the best teacher and gave suggestions.
 
I did fail to answer that Ken's roast book is basically worthless for more
than turning beans brown.
 
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brett Mason
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 8:46 AM
And 3. your recommendation is?
We agree, you're not yet helping on this one...
Brett
On 6/30/07, miKe mcKoffee <   mcKona>
wrote: 
1. The SM maintained archives are not searchable. The Meyers maintained 
archives are searchable, see my sigtag for link.
2. The best profile teacher is your palate. Roast multiple batches of same
bean to same degree of roast and compare. That said I disagree with Brett
and find hitting 1st in 4 minutes with an air roaster can A. sometimes yield
grassy roast (not drying properly to setup up roast reactions in the bean)
B. a thin unbalanced roast with much less body.
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must 
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/<Snip>
homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

6) From: Edward Bourgeois
My WE vote is with Mike on Kens short roasting time suggestions.
On 6/30/07, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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7) From: raymanowen
"I know my beans don't reach 350 deg in 60 seconds like [the thermometer]
reads"
How so? The thermometer has more thermal mass than the beans- it should
actually lag the beans in heating or cooling. AIR is what heats the light
beans and heavy thermometer.
Throw a lobster into a cauldron of boiling water and simultaneously plunge a
thermometer into the pot. In this case, the lobster has more thermal mass
than the measuring device, but they get to the same temperature pretty
quick. You'd need a stopwatch to tell the difference.
Just listen to the beans- they'll tell you how hot they are. Pay attention
and learn the language.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
On 6/30/07, thirddayhomeroaster 
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