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Topic: OT: surprising espresso (14 msgs / 391 lines)
1) From: Robert D. Crawford
I just got back from dinner at an Italian restaurant here in
Murfreesboro, TN.  I ordered an espresso and the waiter told us he would
have to check with the bartender to see if he could "pull a shot" (the
waiter used to work at Starbucks).  He brought me an espresso and I have
to say it was really good.  Lots of crema that lasted a while, pretty
nice flavor... a little bittersweet.  I went to ask the bartender what
machine she was using and she had to go check saying "I'm not sure.  It
is on the machine.  I'll go check.".  Turns out it was a La Spaziale  or
La Cimbali .  It was a little hard to hear and for that reason I did not
ask her to repeat herself or ask what kind of beans she was using.  
Besides, the significant other was very ready to go.
I just found it curious that someone who knew nothing about what kind of
machine she was using would be able to make a surprisingly good
espresso.  I am sure it was not amazing, but better than most I've had.
take care,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
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2) From: Andy Thomas
Any day you get a decent espresso in a restaurant is a good day. If you go there again it would be interesting to find out whether it was a fluke or not.
----- Original Message ----
From: Robert D. Crawford 
...I just got back from dinner at an Italian restaurant ....  He brought me an espresso and I have
to say it was really good.  Lots of crema that lasted a while, pretty
nice flavor... a little bittersweet....
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3) From: Robert D. Crawford
Andy Thomas  writes:
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It will probably be a while.  We were celebrating the fact that we have
a one week vacation from our son who just turned 2.  The place is a
little pricy for what we like to spend normally.
That sounds pretty bad, I know, but I am a stay at home dad who has had
2 days away from him over the last 2 years.  Not only is it good for us
but I think it is also good for him.  We really do love him, I promise.
Take care,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
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4) From: Justin Marquez
All of us who have had a 2-yr old in the home at one point understand
*exactly* where you are coming from. No need to feel guilty about having a
little time to yourselves... all of you probably needed it.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 7/2/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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5) From: Jim Carter
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Talk to Brett. He's created his own baseball team.
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6) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
I was in a place that sells food, called the Olive Garden, and in total
error and ignorance ordered an espresso. Hey, they comp'ed the meal so it
was free. But knowing that olive grow in orchards, not gardens, should have
alerted me to what I was going to receive, hot coffee flavored liquid. No
Creme, no body, the dime on the bottom ws heads. I didn't complain, again it
was free, but I also didn't drink it. Honestly, I've made much much stronger
pour overs than the concoction I was served. So I guess If I want real
espresso I will have to turn to the Tulsa business that *$'s attempted to
sue.
On 7/1/07, Andy Thomas  wrote:
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7) From: Sandy Andina
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Don't feel too bad. Saturday we went to Opera, one of the hottest  
restaurants in the South Loop, a Chinese-nouvelle fusion place that  
has a painstakingly hip vibe to match the artsy-edgy-Columbia College  
campus-neighborhood. We decided since it was our anniversary to pop  
for the tasting menu with wines. Well, it was extraordinary: fourteen  
dishes over six courses, with a wine for each course except dessert,  
which had TWO (a 5-puttonyos Tokaj and a 10-yr-old port).  The waiter  
served as sommelier, picking the wines and challenging the chefs (one  
Japanese, one Chinese, both Paris-trained) to come up with something  
to match. Finally I had high hopes for coffee afterward, as I saw a 2- 
group machine (looked like a LaCimbali) and a grinder by the cash  
register. Well, it was okay but not up to the rest of the food and  
drink--they used Lavazza but it wasn't very freshly roasted, since  
the crema was on the blond side and the shot could've been a bit  
heavier-bodied. But next to Trattoria La Bocca Della Verita (which  
gets Caffe d'Arte Firenze weekly from Seattle) and Evanston's  
Trattoria D.O.C., it was the best restaurant espresso I've had in the  
States--better, in fact--than the four-star Everest and Spiaggia.
On Jul 2, 2007, at 12:23 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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Don't feel too bad. Saturday we =
went to Opera, one of the hottest restaurants in the South Loop, a =
Chinese-nouvelle fusion place that has a painstakingly hip vibe to match =
the artsy-edgy-Columbia College campus-neighborhood. We decided since it =
was our anniversary to pop for the tasting menu with wines. Well, it was =
extraordinary: fourteen dishes over six courses, with a wine for each =
course except dessert, which had TWO (a 5-puttonyos Tokaj and a =
10-yr-old port).  The waiter served as sommelier, picking the wines =
and challenging the chefs (one Japanese, one Chinese, both =
Paris-trained) to come up with something to match. Finally I had high =
hopes for coffee afterward, as I saw a 2-group machine (looked like a =
LaCimbali) and a grinder by the cash register. Well, it was okay but not =
up to the rest of the food and drink--they used Lavazza but it wasn't =
very freshly roasted, since the crema was on the blond side and the shot =
could've been a bit heavier-bodied. But next to Trattoria La Bocca Della =
Verita (which gets Caffe d'Arte Firenze weekly from Seattle) and =
Evanston's Trattoria D.O.C., it was the best restaurant espresso I've =
had in the States--better, in fact--than the four-star Everest and =
Spiaggia.
On Jul 2, 2007, at 12:23 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH =
wrote:
I was in a place that sells food, called the Olive = Garden, and in total error and ignorance ordered an espresso. Hey, they = comp'ed the meal so it was free. But knowing that olive grow in = orchards, not gardens, should have alerted me to what I was going to = receive, hot coffee flavored liquid. No Creme, no body, the dime on the = bottom ws heads. I didn't complain, again it was free, but I also didn't = drink it. Honestly, I've made much much stronger pour overs than the = concoction I was served. So I guess If I want real espresso I will have = to turn to the Tulsa business that *$'s attempted to sue. =   On 7/1/07, Andy Thomas <adt0611> = wrote: Any day you get a decent espresso in a = restaurant is a good day. If you go there again it would be interesting = to find out whether it was a fluke or not. ----- Original Message ---- From: = Robert D. Crawford < robdcraw> ...I just got back from dinner at an Italian restaurant = ....  He brought me an espresso and I have to say it was really = good.  Lots of crema that lasted a while, pretty nice = flavor... a little bittersweet....   Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user = panel and lay it on us.
-- Start HOT and work your way Down... Peppers = AND Coffee. [|:{O....[|:{U... (I'm the tall guy in the = middle) Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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8) From: Woody DeCasere
"I just found it curious that someone who knew nothing about what kind of
machine she was using would be able to make a surprisingly good
espresso."
Not sure why you found this curious,  i would bet most baristas don't know a
whole heck of alot about their espresso machines, it is a rare thing to find
one who really knows the intricacies of their machine.
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9) From: miKe mcKoffee
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Which really emphasis the "importance" of the machine versus 1st grinder,
2nd quality and freshness of the beans (1st and 2nd debatable or more like
equal IMO), 3rd skill of the barista and lastly the espresso machine itself.
Sure some machines are capable of incrementally better shots than others,
but I guarantee a machine like Miss Silvia (or Audrey) can pull very good
shots. Not quite as good as a Bricoletta or La Marzocco Linea but very good
to be sure.
 
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: +OT: surprising espresso
"I just found it curious that someone who knew nothing about what kind of
machine she was using would be able to make a surprisingly good
espresso."
Not sure why you found this curious,  i would bet most baristas don't know a
whole heck of alot about their espresso machines, it is a rare thing to find
one who really knows the intricacies of their machine. 

10) From: Robert D. Crawford
"Woody DeCasere"  writes:
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Never mind the intricacies of the machine, I was just surprised that she
didn't even know the name of the machine.  My luck it was a fluke and
the next time I'm in there it will be a bitter, crema-less cup.
take care,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
Moe:	Wanna play poker tonight?
Joe:	I can't. It's the kids' night out.
Moe:	So?
Joe:	I gotta stay home with the nurse.

11) From: Mark J Bergh
Awww, the memories......
Whoever coined the term "Terrible Twos" understated it!
You need two days more often than you think. 
MJB

12) From: Brett Mason
We've done terrible twos seven times...
It was always wholly worth it...
Brett
On 7/2/07, Mark J Bergh  wrote:
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13) From: Les
Brett,
I want to hear from you when you have done Junior High School seven times .
. . . . . . .(4) was enough for me!  I almost didn't need caffeine during
those years.
Les
On 7/2/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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14) From: Brett Mason
Boy am I with you there!  Most of my kids breeze through with all their
studies.  Kind of comes easy.
But one of my kids has really struggled.  Reading came sometime after 3rd
grade. He is incredibly smart and resourceful, but the normal methods don't
work.  Rote memory is not a skill he will ever get.  Math and Spelling will
always be a problem. I think he will own a company while he is young,
because of his creativity and ingenuity, but the basics are troubling.
Well, with Excel and Word, most of his pain goes away.  In ten years we will
have far better tools, leaving him to compete on innovation and
entrepreneurial levels...
Ahhhhh, he just got through 7th grade.....  I am with you!
Brett
On 7/3/07, Les  wrote:
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