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Topic: is this pot an ibrik? (8 msgs / 158 lines)
1) From: Kris Bhatti
I found this solid copper pot at a thrift store today for $1.  I thought it was an ibrik, but after a bit of web research, I see it doesn't look quite like those.  It stands 7" tall and holds 5 1/2 C (filled to the top).  The inside is not tinned.  The handle goes straight out to the side instead of up at an angle like I see in the web photos.  After I looked at it closer I found the following engraved on the copper piece that the handle is attached to:  
Cuernavaca Parejas
Jaime Maraboto
Serie Mayor Cat "B"
 691
Now I suspect that this is from Mexico and may not be for coffee after all.  Any ideas?   Regardless of  whether it's meant to be for coffee, it certainly looks like it would work for Turkish coffee and I'll probably give it a try.  http://www.geocities.com/krisbhatti/images/pot1.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/krisbhatti/images/pot2.jpg
Thanks for any help,
Kris
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2) From: Lisa Carton
sure look like an ibrik to me-----awesome "excuse" to make some great turkish coffee!!!!
It has the flare to it, which i believe is important.........when i make turkish coffee i keep it from boiling (i have read different things on this as i am sure u have 2)....there's something about the shape that helps it as it foams/bubbles up......all you physics people, here's your chance to jump in!
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From: Kris Bhatti 
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:38:32 PM
Subject: +is this pot an ibrik?
I found this solid copper pot at a thrift store today for $1.  I thought it was an ibrik, but after a bit of web research, I see it doesn't look quite like those.  It stands 7" tall and holds 5 1/2 C (filled to the top).  The inside is not tinned.  The handle goes straight out to the side instead of up at an angle like I see in the web photos.  After I looked at it closer I found the following engraved on the copper piece that the handle is attached to:  
Cuernavaca Parejas
Jaime Maraboto
Serie Mayor Cat "B"
 691
Now I suspect that this is from Mexico and may not be for coffee after all.  Any ideas?   Regardless of  whether it's meant to be for coffee, it certainly looks like it would work for Turkish coffee and I'll probably give it a try.  http://www.geocities.com/krisbhatti/images/pot1.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/krisbhatti/images/pot2.jpg
Thanks for any help,
Kris 
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3) From: Tim TenClay
I believe it is an ibrik... I have one VERY similar that I picked up in
Turkey several years ago.
Grace and peace,
  `tim
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4) From: Angelo
It looks like any Ibrik I have, but I have to ask is it wise to brew 
in a solid copper pot. All of my copper Ibiks are tinned.
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5) From: Tim TenClay
RE: Copper
I don't know about the taste copper would cause, but I don't see any
particular health reasons not to cook in it.  I know there is such a thing
as copper toxicity, but in general extra copper is secreted through the
bile.  It IS a required metal (helps use Iron correctly, if I remember
correctly) but can be overdosed on.  Lots of people cook with copper though,
and I can't imagine anyone would drink enough turkish coffee to cause a
copper problem (although too much turkish coffee can certainly cause other
"digestive" problems!)  :-)
Just my ENTIRELY unprofessional opinion.
Grace and Peace,
. `tim
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6) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Hello Tim,
In general the copper pans used for cooking are in fact tinned. I watched a
program on T.V. not too long ago and they featured a tinner who still runs a
very bustling business in copper pots and pans. The danger with copper is
the corrosion on the copper. It's the green stuff called verdigris IIRC. It
is the stuff you see collecting around copper rivets and other copper parts
on leather. I think the acids in the leather probably promote a quicker
corrosion.
Actually I don't think it is that hard to tin copper as long as you use pure
tin, not the stuff that has a mixture of lead as used in plumbing. Of course
your heat source will have to be hotter than your stove top to be effective
(like acetylene).
hope this helps someone with the tinning issue.
TerryT
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7) From: Mike Koenig
Verdigris can have some toxicity to it, so it's something to watch out
for on the inside of your pot.  It's copper (II) acetate, so unless
you are cooking vinegar, or old wine in it, verdigris is unlikely to
form.  I don't expect too much of a problem with coffee.  If the
inside is shiny and free of green stuff, you should be OK.
(As an aside, I routinely clean my copper chiller I use for brewing
beer with hot vinegar, followed by a water rinse, and have never had a
problem with verdigris)
--mike
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8) From: Kris Bhatti
I've had some replies that the pot is an ibrik, others that it is a Mexican hot chocolate pot.  I was leaning towards the chocolate pot after I saw the engraving, suggesting the pot is from Mexico.  I've done quite a bit of searching on the web for a picture of a copper chocolate pot, but I can't find one.  Whatever it's original purpose, it's life with me will probably be a combination of the two.  I made two pots of coffee in it today and was quite happy with the results.  I've never had Turkish coffee before so I don't have anything to compare to but I liked what I tasted.  I tossed in a cardamom pod for the second pot and that was delightful.  Now I need to to stop in the Mexican grocery store to pick up some chocolate so I can give that a try.  You just never know where a $1 thrift store find will lead you!
Thanks for all the suggestions,
Kris
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