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Topic: using all of the senses (8 msgs / 266 lines)
1) From: Stephen Carey
I will be honest, I am truly a "newbie" to roasting coffee.  I have 
only three roasts under my belt on my new IR2.  But, from everything 
I have read in many places, the exact times and temperatures have 
always been a guide and not a recipe.
On my most recent roast, my first outdoors, in the shade, ambient 
temperature at about 74% - a cold wave or sorts for this time of 
summer.  The roast was about 142 grams of Sumatra Classic 
Mandheling.  I set my cycles based on what I had read, but was ready 
to shorten them, up the temp or bring it down, for I wasn't sure what 
the "exact recipe" was.
I made my settings for three cycles, then a cooling cycle.  However, 
I watched the colors, remembering that I had read that it appears 
lighter to the eye than the actual degree of roast "when compared to 
other coffees visually."  I had a true sense to what the smells 
should be, and I listened for the first crack.
With my senses working overtime I changed the roast settings as I 
went, ending the final cycle a bit earlier than I had first 
planned.  I can say that the final product, before resting, smells 
wonderful, and when a bean was put in my mouth for a "munch" I could 
taste the earth flavor, the woody flavor I had read about, among others.
Now it is sitting, after a proper cooling, for its rest.  I learned 
that this is not a "by the book" recipe endeavor.  But rather that it 
involves all of me, my senses, including the ability to read so I can 
learn from others.  Some might say that this makes it harder to get a 
perfect roast - whatever that is, for I don't know.  But, to me, it 
is more fulfilling, more exciting, and more about me and my trying 
new things which I can share at some point.
I know I am in the right hobby field since all I want to do is to 
learn more through practice, drink more of this great drink by 
roasting more and more of it.  And, most important, no matter how a 
roast turns out, I am having fun.  Sounds good to me!

2) From: Brian Kamnetz
I think most will agree, the main goal is to enjoy roasting and to enjoy the
results in the cup. A few ups, a few downs, are all part of the trip.
I'm currently in NW Wisconsin, and the temps here were in the low 70s
yesterday. Are you anywhere near here?
On 7/23/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:

3) From: John Moody
Wow, you are off to a great start.  Consider making some coffee right after
roasting and each day of rest.  You might find that an enjoyable experience
as well; the experience, not necessarily the coffee.
I just had some Tanzania Mount Meru Nkoanekoli right off the roaster, and it
impressed me with its full flavor, compared to other beans I have roasted. I
have so much to learn. . . .

4) From: Homeroaster
There's only one way to learn the sensory part of coffee tasting.  That is 
...coffee tasting.  Side by side comparison of a roast with the settings at 
one extreme and the other at settings at the other extreme.
Roast one, set the first cycle for a low temperature, and put the other two 
cycle temps wherever you think they might give you a good roast.
Roast two, set the first cycle at a medium temperature, and set the other 
two cycle temperatures the same as Roast one.
Roast three, set the first cycle at a high temperature, and set the other 
two cycle temperatures the same as Roast one.
Grind and brew each exactly the same.  I use 10oz cups, coffee grounds, and 
hot water from the same pot for each sample.  If you don't want the grounds 
in your teeth, after they have steeped for about three minutes, pour each 
through a fine mesh strainer into another cup.
Compare and note differences (if any) of aroma, fruitiness, sharpness, 
aftertaste, etc. and make notes as you go.  One should taste better than the 
Go with that one for your next taste test, and vary the second cycle 
temperature the same way as you did in the first comparison.  Do the same 
for the third cycle temperature until you think you've got each dialed in 
fairly well.  Do over when you get another type of coffee.  Ain't this fun?
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

5) From: miKe mcKoffee
Excellent directions for dialing in a bean. IIUC you inferred taking each
roast to the same finish degree of roast for that 9 batch greens dial in
sequence. Gotta add bracketing ideal degree of roast too which I believe
ideally would be done first before dialing in the profiles, then again after
selecting desired profile! But that's only 6 or so more batches. Of course
multiple degrees of roast can be done in one batch before and after
determining profile if the roaster has a tryer:-)
The good news once done for a particular "type" of coffee similar type of
coffees can (usually) be dialed in with fewer steps. Though even the exact
same SO same Estate etc. different year or even different picking same year
can be different of course.
Truth, home many roast a dozen or so batches just to determine how best to
roast a given bean! Which is why we home roasters more often than not may
settle for less than may be the absolute best possible roast we "could"
achieve. (And yes, I'm referring to me too.)
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found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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6) From: Homeroaster
My first draft of my post simply said to compare two roasts, one done with
high settings and one done with lower, and the beans taken to the same roast
level and compare.  Then I started tweaking it and it got a bit messy.
I have dialed in a bean in the past and they run out of that bean doing the
tests!  Sick, I tell you, but fun!
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

7) From: miKe mcKoffee
Remember the Diedrich seminar notes on dialing in a roast:-)

8) From: Homeroaster
"The roasting process is balance of technology, chemistry and physics. The 
quality of the green coffee, the roasting equipment and the skill and 
knowledge of the roaster operator are all very important when striving for 
excellence. Part of the learning can be passed on through recorded 
documentation, however, most is learned through the first hand experience of 
roasting coffee and cupping the results and constant refinement of 
techniques. You learn from sight, touch, smell and taste, as well as a lot 
of trial and error. Coffee is a biologically active system. The process and 
techniques used at every stage will influence all subsequent processes and 
their associated chemistries. Even with the best climate, soil condition, 
elevation, careful nurturing and correct processing methods, improper 
roasting can ruin all previous efforts. Even improper grinding and brewing 
can ruin a nicely roasted coffee. It is important to have an understanding 
of the green coffee itself. You will find variations in green coffee, even 
within a particular growing region in the same season."
Does that ring a bell?
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

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