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1) From: MSMB
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Does anyone here have any experience with the Cuisinart burr grinder ?
Would it be acceptable for press pot or, perhaps for electric drip?  I have
read conflicting reports ("two thumbs Up;"  "boo. boulders and sand,"
"acceptable for one's everyday coffee," etc.)  I regularly use a Maestro
Classic, and would not change, but just wondering if there is any merit in
this one, say, as an inexpensive gift to my daughter's significant other (I
had given him a nice manual grinder for his birthday-an old Italian one-and
it is now producing metal shavings in his coffee; so I want to replace it
but am on a budget).

2) From: Robert Pearce
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While it's what I use I must say it doesn't produce a consistent grind
unless you've got it set for talcum powder.
That being said, I use mine every day for my vacuum pot.  I'm not likely to
get anything new till this one wears out (it's been grinding daily for 4
years now) because my wife is the frugal sort and just doesn't love coffee
enough to understand that the grind consistency might have anything to do
with the end cup.
From: homeroast-admin
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Subject: +Cuisinart Burr Grinder.
Does anyone here have any experience with the Cuisinart burr grinder ?
Would it be acceptable for press pot or, perhaps for electric drip?  I have
read conflicting reports ("two thumbs Up;"  "boo. boulders and sand,"
"acceptable for one's everyday coffee," etc.)  I regularly use a Maestro
Classic, and would not change, but just wondering if there is any merit in
this one, say, as an inexpensive gift to my daughter's significant other (I
had given him a nice manual grinder for his birthday-an old Italian one-and
it is now producing metal shavings in his coffee; so I want to replace it
but am on a budget).

3) From: Sandy Andina
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My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it drove her nuts  
with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all over her  
kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker whirley-blade she used  =
the rest of her life.  (The cheap crappy grinder I bought Fri. in the  =
Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I was punchy from  
all that long-distance driving, and it affected my typing. But both  
grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek).
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My mom (alev hasholom) had one =
for a few days and it drove her nuts with all the static spewing grounds =
hither and yon all over her kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & =
Decker whirley-blade she used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy =
grinder I bought Fri. in the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a =
Melitta--I was punchy from all that long-distance driving, and it =
affected my typing. But both grinders are equally crummy pieces of =
drek).
On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Robert Pearce =
wrote:

While its = what I use I must say it doesnt produce a consistent grind unless = youve got it set for talcum powder

That being said, = I use mine every day for my vacuum pot. Im not likely to get = anything new till this one wears out (its been grinding daily for 4 = years now) because my wife is the frugal sort and just doesnt love = coffee enough to understand that the grind consistency might have = anything to do with the end cup

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:27 = PM
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Subject: +Cuisinart Burr Grinder.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Cuisinart = burr grinder ? Would it be acceptable for press pot or, perhaps for = electric drip? I have read conflicting reports (two thumbs Up;= boo boulders and sand, acceptable for ones everyday = coffee, etc.) I regularly use a Maestro Classic, and would not = change, but just wondering if there is any merit in this one, say, as an = inexpensive gift to my daughters significant other (I had given him a = nice manual grinder for his birthdayan old Italian oneand it is = now producing metal shavings in his coffee; so I want to replace it but = am on a budget).


= Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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4) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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I have one that I bought prior to my epiphany of coffee and I have found
that for grinding for drip or French Press it works fine but that is all
I use it for any more.  
if that is the type of useage I say it is a step up from the whirly
blade grinder.  the finest setting is still in the drip range not the
espresso range at all. in large grinds you do get some bean dust with
the grinds but for Drip or FP I'd say it works.
YMMV
V/R, 
FC1(SW/AW) Dennis W. True 
"Life Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten it..." 
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		Does anyone here have any experience with the Cuisinart
burr grinder ?  Would it be acceptable for press pot or, perhaps for
electric drip?  I have read conflicting reports ("two thumbs Up;"
"boo... boulders and sand,"  "acceptable for one's everyday coffee,"
etc.)  I regularly use a Maestro Classic, and would not change, but just
wondering if there is any merit in this one, say, as an inexpensive gift
to my daughter's significant other (I had given him a nice manual
grinder for his birthday-an old Italian one-and it is now producing
metal shavings in his coffee; so I want to replace it but am on a
budget).
	
	Sandy Andina
	www.sandyandina.com
	www.myspace.com/sandyandina

5) From: Aaron Boothe
My mom is just starting to roast, and all she had was an old manual.  I got
her the Cuisinart for mother's day and she loves it.  I work at a shop that
sells them so I got it for really cheap.  I use a Bodum Antigua which is
still pretty cheap, and a way nicer grinder.  But my mom really enjoys it.
Bear in mind however that she has just recently gave up drinking Folgers and
bought an IR2.
Aaron

6) From: Richard Ferguson
I recently just switched the Cuisinart burr grinder for a Baratza Maestro.  I
can definitely say there was a noticeable improvement in my french press
coffee.  The amount of fines I find at the bottom of a cup are slim in
comparison to the Cuisinart.  I didn't get the plus model so it was only ~100
on ebay.  After using both, I would say spend the extra money if you can and
get the Maestro, you won't be disappointed.
richard
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7) From: Angelo
Sandy, what happened to "thither"?
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8) From: Leo Zick
i dont recognize her name.. should i? i assume you mention it for a reason?
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9) From: Leo Zick
i bought my mother one to replace her blade grinder.
its easy to clean and adjust, a little loud for my taste, and probably cant
handle large loads (huhu), but it performs well, and gives a decently
consistent grind for FP and drip.
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10) From: Gail Shuford
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I have had mine (Model # CCN-16PC) for about two years and it is a  
good performer even for grinding small batches.  I use the manual  
override switch alot to continue grinding after the auto function  
stops to get the remaining  beans in the chamber.  I do have to set  
it near the fine range to get the grind I prefer for drip as the  
other settings seem way too large.  There are always going to be  
"better"? more expensive models but for the price you cant beat this  
one.
Gail
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I have had mine (Model # =
CCN-16PC) for about two years and it is a good performer even for =
grinding small batches. I use the manual override switch alot to =
continue grinding after the auto function stops to get the remaining =
beans in the chamber. I do have to set it near the fine range to get =
the grind I prefer for drip as the other settings seem way too large. =
There are always going to be "better"? more expensive models but for the =
price you cant beat this one. Gail
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Jul 24, 2007, at 9:27 PM, MSMB wrote:

Does anyone here have any experience = with the Cuisinart burr grinder ? Would it be acceptable for press = pot or, perhaps for electric drip? I have read conflicting reports = (two thumbs Up; boo boulders and sand, acceptable = for ones everyday coffee, etc.) I regularly use a Maestro = Classic, and would not change, but just wondering if there is any merit = in this one, say, as an inexpensive gift to my daughters significant = other (I had given him a nice manual grinder for his birthdayan old = Italian oneand it is now producing metal shavings in his coffee; so I = want to replace it but am on a budget).


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11) From: Lynne Biziewski
I just figured it out (through a search):
The Hebrew phrase, alev hasholom ('Peace upon him'), is used when referring
to dear departed friends or relatives.
We (my Italian side) do a similar, "God rest her [his] soul" whenever we
mention someone who has departed.
Lynne
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12) From: Leo Zick
agreed, but 'riposi in pace' looks less like a name and more like a phrase,
hence the confusion. :)
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13) From: Sandy Andina
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No reason you should recognize my mom's name, especially since I  
didn't even mention it. I guess the reason I said "alev  
hasholom" (for our Gentile listmembers, Hebrew for "may she rest in  
peace") was that I called her "Mom;" I wasn't aware that it's  
improper to say that without specifying an actual name; she passed  
away in 2006 and I still miss her terribly, which was why I  
reflexively add the phrase. Sorry if I committed a religious faux pas.
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No reason you should recognize =
my mom's name, especially since I didn't even mention it. I guess the =
reason I said "alev hasholom" (for our Gentile listmembers, Hebrew for =
"may she rest in peace") was that I called her "Mom;" I wasn't aware =
that it's improper to say that without specifying an actual name; she =
passed away in 2006 and I still miss her terribly, which was why I =
reflexively add the phrase. Sorry if I committed a religious faux =
pas.
On Jul 25, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Leo Zick wrote:
i dont = recognize her name.. should i? i assume you mention it for a = reason? On 7/25/07, Sandy Andina <sandraandina > = wrote:My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and = it drove her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all = over her kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker = whirley-blade she used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy = grinder I bought Fri. in the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a = Melitta--I was punchy from all that long-distance driving, and it = affected my typing. But both grinders are equally crummy pieces of = drek). On= Jul 25, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Robert Pearce wrote: =

While = it's what I use I must say it doesn't produce a consistent grind unless = you've got it set for talcum powder


That being said, I use mine every day = for my vacuum pot. I'm not likely to get anything new till this one = wears out (it's been grinding daily for 4 years now) because my wife is = the frugal sort and just doesn't love coffee enough to understand that = the grind consistency might have anything to do with the end cup =


From: homeroast-admin= om [mailto:homeroast-admin= arias.com] On Behalf Of MSMB
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:27 PM
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Subject: +Cuisinart Burr = Grinder.


Does = anyone here have any experience with the Cuisinart burr grinder ? Would= it be acceptable for press pot or, perhaps for electric drip? I have = read conflicting reports ("two thumbs Up;" "boo boulders and = sand," "acceptable for one's everyday coffee," etc.) I regularly = use a Maestro Classic, and would not change, but just wondering if there = is any merit in this one, say, as an inexpensive gift to my daughter's = significant other (I had given him a nice manual grinder for his = birthdayan old Italian oneand it is now producing metal shavings = in his coffee; so I want to replace it but am on a budget). =

Sandy Andinawww.sandyandina.com<= A href="http://www.myspace.com/sandyandina"target="_blank" = onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> = www.myspace.com/sandyandina = = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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14) From: Sandy Andina
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It's on vacation. ;)
On Jul 25, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Angelo wrote:
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It's on vacation. =
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On Jul 25, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Angelo wrote:
Sandy, what happened to "thither"? At 02:09 = AM 7/25/2007, you wrote: My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it = drove her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all = over her kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker = whirley-blade she used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy grinder I = bought Fri. in the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I = was punchy from all that long-distance driving, and it affected my = typing. But both grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek).On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Robert Pearce = wrote: = mailto:homeroast-adm= in>mailto:homeroast-adm= in] On Behalf Of MSMBSent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:27 PMTo: <mailto:homeroast= etmarias.com>homeroast= s.comSubject: +Cuisinart Burr = Grinder. homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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15) From: Leo Zick
no apology needed, your phrase looked more like a name to me than a phrase.=
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now i know! (insert pbs star and rainbow here)
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16) From: John Brown
nope, no faux pas with me.   Mom is indeed her proper Title.  her name 
only used when introducing her to other people.  this is to give them a 
handle to use when talking with her.this is what i did when mine was 
with us.  she has been gone since 1984.
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17) From: Jonathan B. Horen
On 7/25/07, Sandy Andina  wrote: 
My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it drove her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all over her kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker whirley-blade she used the rest of her life.  (The cheap crappy grinder I bought Fri. in the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I was punchy from all that long-distance driving, and it affected my typing. But both grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek). 
In Hebrew, ???? ????? (alav hashalom) is for a man, and ???? ????? (aleha hashalom) is for a woman.
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19) From: Sandy Andina
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Todah rabah, Jonathan!
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Todah rabah, =
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On 7/25/07, Sandy Andina <sandraandina > = wrote:

My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it drove = her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all over her = kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker whirley-blade she = used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy grinder I bought Fri. in = the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I was punchy from = all that long-distance driving, and it affected my typing. But both = grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek).


In Hebrew, אלי= השלום (alav hashalom) is for a man, and = אליה השלום (aleha hashalom) = is for a woman.


כל טוב= !

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20) From: Sandy Andina
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Didn't mean to berate, only to explain, Leo. No offense was taken,  
and none was intended by my reply. Hope you weren't offended, either.
Keeping this on topic, anyone ever have great coffee in Israel?  Got  
some nice shots once from the Rancilio 2-group at the bar at Kibbutz  
K'far Giladi.  But I'd found most places without espresso machines  
will serve Nescafé (!!!) unless you asked for "café filter," =
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which case you'd get a carafe of hot water, a cup and a plastic  
disposable filter containing a paper packet of what I thought was  
just ground coffee (but found out later has a little instant added-- 
just like those Folger "coffee singles"--as a flavor booster).
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Didn't mean to berate, only to =
explain, Leo. No offense was taken, and none was intended by my reply. =
Hope you weren't offended, either.
Keeping this on topic, = anyone ever have great coffee in Israel?  Got some nice shots once = from the Rancilio 2-group at the bar at Kibbutz K'far Giladi.  But = I'd found most places without espresso machines will serve Nescafé = (!!!) unless you asked for "café filter," in which case you'd get a = carafe of hot water, a cup and a plastic disposable filter containing a = paper packet of what I thought was just ground coffee (but found out = later has a little instant added--just like those Folger "coffee = singles"--as a flavor booster). On Jul 25, 2007, at 2:29 = PM, Leo Zick wrote:
thank you = jonathan.. and for all those kindly (jewish too, it seems) people = whom have berated me, i did search for alev hasholom, = prior to asking her why she mentioned this name/phrase.  the only = site that came up was Sandy's.  so, a circular reference to this = 'person' furthered my confusion. life is so much easier when i = just dont reply to this stuff.  ive been quiet for weeks, and as = soon as i reply, every coffee drinking person of the jewish religious = faith (PC enough?) comes down on me.  (im referring more to = offlist.) On = 7/25/07, Jonathan B. Horen <horen> = wrote:

On 7/25/07, Sandy Andina <sandraandina > = wrote:

My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it drove = her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all over her = kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker whirley-blade she = used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy grinder I bought Fri. in = the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I was punchy from = all that long-distance driving, and it affected my typing. But both = grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek).


In Hebrew, אל= ו השלום (alav hashalom) is for a man, = and אליה השלום (aleha = hashalom) is for a woman.


כל טוב= !

Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

= = --Apple-Mail-65-928185233--

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Thanks for the warning.  I will remember this if I am lucky enough to  =
get to go.  You didnt mention any other type other than from the  
expresso machines.  Did you try just regular drip coffee at  
restaurants or cafes or was that not available as we know it?
Shalom,
Gail
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Thanks for the warning.  I =
will remember this if I am lucky enough to get to go.  You didnt =
mention any other type other than from the expresso machines.  Did =
you try just regular drip coffee at restaurants or cafes or was that not =
available as we know it?  Shalom,Gail=
    
On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Sandy =
Andina wrote:
Didn't mean to berate, only to explain, Leo. No offense = was taken, and none was intended by my reply. Hope you weren't offended, = either.
Keeping = this on topic, anyone ever have great coffee in Israel?  Got some = nice shots once from the Rancilio 2-group at the bar at Kibbutz K'far = Giladi.  But I'd found most places without espresso machines will = serve Nescafé (!!!) unless you asked for "café filter," in = which case you'd get a carafe of hot water, a cup and a plastic = disposable filter containing a paper packet of what I thought was just = ground coffee (but found out later has a little instant added--just like = those Folger "coffee singles"--as a flavor booster). On Jul = 25, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
thank you = jonathan.. and for all those kindly (jewish too, it seems) people = whom have berated me, i did search for alev hasholom, = prior to asking her why she mentioned this name/phrase.  the only = site that came up was Sandy's.  so, a circular reference to this = 'person' furthered my confusion. life is so much easier when i = just dont reply to this stuff.  ive been quiet for weeks, and as = soon as i reply, every coffee drinking person of the jewish religious = faith (PC enough?) comes down on me.  (im referring more to = offlist.) On = 7/25/07, Jonathan B. Horen <horen> = wrote:

On 7/25/07, Sandy Andina <sandraandina > = wrote:

My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it drove = her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all over her = kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker whirley-blade she = used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy grinder I bought Fri. in = the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I was punchy from = all that long-distance driving, and it affected my typing. But both = grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek).


In Hebrew, אל= ו השלום (alav hashalom) is for a man, = and אליה השלום (aleha = hashalom) is for a woman.


כל טוב= !

Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

= = --Apple-Mail-2-929241278--

22) From: Sandy Andina
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I never did get regular drip there--things may have changed since  
'92, but all there was available back then was either Arabian/Turkish  =
(yummy), espresso/cappuccino, Nescafé (which everyone referred to =
by  
the slang term "Nes") and café filter (pronounced "feelter").  The  =
latter wasn't bad--I suspect some brands did not include any  
instant.  I visited Netanya, K'far Giladi/Kiryat Shemona, Tiberias,  
Cana, Jerusalem, Jericho, Bethlehem, and Tel Aviv.  All hotels  
provided a sumptuous "milchik" (dairy, fish, and vegetarian)  
breakfast buffet that is practically a brunch, and all offered tea,  
"café filter" or Nescafé.
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I never did get regular drip =
there--things may have changed since '92, but all there was available =
back then was either Arabian/Turkish (yummy), espresso/cappuccino, =
Nescafé (which everyone referred to by the slang term "Nes") and =
café filter (pronounced "feelter").  The latter wasn't bad--I =
suspect some brands did not include any instant.  I visited =
Netanya, K'far Giladi/Kiryat Shemona, Tiberias, Cana, Jerusalem, =
Jericho, Bethlehem, and Tel Aviv.  All hotels provided a sumptuous =
"milchik" (dairy, fish, and vegetarian) breakfast buffet that is =
practically a brunch, and all offered tea, "café filter" or =
Nescafé.
On Jul 25, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Gail Shuford =
wrote:
Thanks for the warning.  I will remember this if I am = lucky enough to get to go.  You didnt mention any other type other = than from the expresso machines.  Did you try just regular drip = coffee at restaurants or cafes or was that not available as we know = it?  Shalom,Gail   =   On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Sandy Andina = wrote:
Didn't mean to berate, only to explain, Leo. No offense = was taken, and none was intended by my reply. Hope you weren't offended, = either.
Keeping = this on topic, anyone ever have great coffee in Israel?  Got some = nice shots once from the Rancilio 2-group at the bar at Kibbutz K'far = Giladi.  But I'd found most places without espresso machines will = serve Nescafé (!!!) unless you asked for "café filter," in = which case you'd get a carafe of hot water, a cup and a plastic = disposable filter containing a paper packet of what I thought was just = ground coffee (but found out later has a little instant added--just like = those Folger "coffee singles"--as a flavor booster). On Jul = 25, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
thank you = jonathan.. and for all those kindly (jewish too, it seems) people = whom have berated me, i did search for alev hasholom, = prior to asking her why she mentioned this name/phrase.  the only = site that came up was Sandy's.  so, a circular reference to this = 'person' furthered my confusion. life is so much easier when i = just dont reply to this stuff.  ive been quiet for weeks, and as = soon as i reply, every coffee drinking person of the jewish religious = faith (PC enough?) comes down on me.  (im referring more to = offlist.) On = 7/25/07, Jonathan B. Horen <horen> = wrote:

On 7/25/07, Sandy Andina <sandraandina > = wrote:

My mom (alev hasholom) had one for a few days and it drove = her nuts with all the static spewing grounds hither and yon all over her = kitchen. She exchanged it for a Black & Decker whirley-blade she = used the rest of her life. (The cheap crappy grinder I bought Fri. in = the Upper Peninsula was not a Cuisinart but a Melitta--I was punchy from = all that long-distance driving, and it affected my typing. But both = grinders are equally crummy pieces of drek).


In Hebrew, אל= ו השלום (alav hashalom) is for a man, = and אליה השלום (aleha = hashalom) is for a woman.


כל טוב= !

Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

= = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

= = --Apple-Mail-67-929788157--

23) From: Vicki Smith
alev hasholem  (~) = Peace be unto him/her.  It's not a name, but rather 
something said after one mentions a loved one who has died. It's Yiddish.
v
Leo Zick wrote:
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24) From: Vicki Smith
Ignore please, Leo. It seems I am #12 to correct you.
v
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25) From: Barry Luterman
Nope it's Hebrew

26) From: Sandy Andina
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uh, it's Hebrew, not Yiddish.  Yiddish, a form of High German  
(ironically, it's a vernacular language, so one'd think it'd be "low"  
German) is heavily influenced by and sometimes incorporates Hebrew  
pronunciation and expressions.  What may lead to the confusion  
between the two languages is that Yiddish is (actually, more like  
"was") spoken by Ashkenazi, or Central/Eastern/Northern European  
Jews--who in turn used a more German-influenced pronunciation of  
Hebrew in the liturgy (e.g., "Shabbos" and "Sukkos" for "Shabbat" and  
"Sukkot").  The pronunciation used in Israel is the "pure" Sephardic  
(Jews of Asian, African and Mediterranean origin), which is now  
embraced by practically all Reform and most Conservative  
congregations worldwide so that Jews who visit or emigrate to Israel  
will be better able to communicate in Hebrew.
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uh, it's Hebrew, not Yiddish. =
Yiddish, a form of High German (ironically, it's a vernacular language, =
so one'd think it'd be "low" German) is heavily influenced by and =
sometimes incorporates Hebrew pronunciation and expressions. What may =
lead to the confusion between the two languages is that Yiddish is =
(actually, more like "was") spoken by Ashkenazi, or =
Central/Eastern/Northern European Jews--who in turn used a more =
German-influenced pronunciation of Hebrew in the liturgy (e.g., =
"Shabbos" and "Sukkos" for "Shabbat" and "Sukkot"). The pronunciation =
used in Israel is the "pure" Sephardic (Jews of Asian, African and =
Mediterranean origin), which is now embraced by practically all Reform =
and most Conservative congregations worldwide so that Jews who visit or =
emigrate to Israel will be better able to communicate in =
Hebrew.
On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Vicki Smith =
wrote:
alev hasholem (~) = Peace be unto = him/her. It's not a = name, but rather something said after one mentions a loved one who has = died. It's Yiddish.v Leo Zick = wrote: i dont = recognize her name.. should i? i assume you mention it for a = reason? homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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27) From: Vicki Smith
What can I say, my family is Sephardic and speaks Ladino :).
v
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28) From: Brett Mason
Mine isn't.  Maybe they are talking about burrs and Cuisinart Grinders?
Maybe its even on-topic, but I just didn't get it.  Probably so.
Got Java?
I do... Government Estate.
But I ain't gunna interrupt with coffee stuff...
Brett
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29) From: Angelo
Couldn't it be both?  According to my goyische understanding, Yiddish 
is a conglomerate language of mostly German, with heavy doses of 
Hebrew, Russian and various Eastern European languages.. This could 
be one of those Hebrew phrases, nicht wahr?
Angelo
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30) From: raymanowen
alev hasholom- Not her name, but I think it's a deep loving term for one
asleep in death.
Shalom- RayO, aka Opa!
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