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Topic: We are All slightly Corn-fused ore Worse! (6 msgs / 245 lines)
1) From: Gail Shuford
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There is a limit on the quantity of some of the cloth bags one can  
purchase per order from Sweet Marias so to supplement I made some of  
my own out of unbleached muslin and natural burlap purchased from a  
fabric store and ran drawstrings around the tops.  Very easy straight  
seam stitching and would be a good project to learn with if one  
doesnt already know how.  It does take time however.   Muslin is  
easier to sew as the seams wont ravel as much and it's easier to  
handle.  I was motivated by the "ventilation" theory which still has  
yet to be proven with my own trials since I have just gotten into  
doing greens.  The humidity in my area is not an issue so I dont know  
for sure if ventilation is even necessary.  Seams to me that dried  
beans, popcorn, etc. are sold in plastic bags and stored that way for  
a long "shelf life".   I always thought that O2 was the enemy of long  
storage life for most anything.
I had the same questions and concerns as you and it turns out that no  
one really knows for sure.   Using polyester for storage bags for  
longer than 3 mos just doesnt sound like a good idea to me.  It is a  
synthetic fabric and doesnt "breathe" but then neither do plastic zip  
lock bags and similar.   So you couldnt disprove that theory  
either.   Vacuum packing and/or freezing greens is another option but  
is more expensive and involved.  Ive heard great success stories  
using those methods.  There was a discussion a while back about  
this.  Check archives for specifics or ask Kona Mike or Robert Joslin.
Good luck,
Gail
On Jul 31, 2007, at 7:47 PM, Scott Marquardt wrote:
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There is a limit on the quantity =
of some of the cloth bags one can purchase per order from Sweet Marias =
so to supplement I made some of my own out of unbleached muslin and =
natural burlap purchased from a fabric store and ran drawstrings around =
the tops.  Very easy straight seam stitching and would be a good =
project to learn with if one doesnt already know how.  It does take =
time however.   Muslin is easier to sew as the seams wont ravel as =
much and it's easier to handle.  I was motivated by the "ventilation" =
theory which still has yet to be proven with my own trials since I have =
just gotten into doing greens.  The humidity in my area is not an =
issue so I dont know for sure if ventilation is even necessary.  Seams =
to me that dried beans, popcorn, etc. are sold in plastic bags and =
stored that way for a long "shelf life".   I always thought that O2 =
was the enemy of long storage life for most anything.I had the same =
questions and concerns as you and it turns out that no one really knows =
for sure.   Using polyester for storage bags for longer than 3 mos =
just doesnt sound like a good idea to me.  It is a synthetic fabric =
and doesnt "breathe" but then neither do plastic zip lock bags and =
similar.   So you couldnt disprove that theory either.   Vacuum =
packing and/or freezing greens is another option but is more expensive =
and involved.  Ive heard great success stories using those methods.  =
There was a discussion a while back about this.  Check archives for =
specifics or ask Kona Mike or Robert Joslin. Good =
luck,Gail 
On Jul 31, 2007, at 7:47 PM, Scott =
Marquardt wrote:
Sew up some polyester. Make your own bags. Make several = sizes this way. It's also simple to add a = drawstring. Seriously. The ziplocs everyone sends coffee = in nowadays are polyester. It has the advantage of being pretty = darned inert. - S On = 7/31/07, Stephen Carey <steve> = wrote: Hi all.  Okay, I am sure this has been covered, I am looking = to see what the consensus was.  One book, Home Coffee Roasting, = says in burlap bags, in a cool dry place, with ventilation.  I = get that.  But, the beans come to me in sealed plastic bags that = can be resealed.  Is this bad for longer term storage - meaning = a few weeks, maybe longer?  Should I buy the burlap bags so they = get the ventilation. Two sites say kind of the opposite = thing.  Sweet Maria's sells the bags so I believe they think one = should use them - and I think they are cool - not a solid reason, but = I like the burlap bags. Right now, I meet all of the requirements = except the ventilation since they are in the plastic bags. = Ideas? h= omeroast mailing list http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast To change your = personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to = http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = --Apple-Mail-2--670283282--

2) From: raymanowen
"Sweet Maria's sells the bags so I believe they think one should use them -
and I think they are cool - not a solid reason..."
If a customer has convinced himself he wants and needs something, only a
flaming imbecile would not sell it to him if he could find a good source of
the commodity.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
"Customer Service" refers to serving the customer, not servicing him.

3) From: Vicki Smith
My greens never seem to stay around unroasted for more than three 
months. I bought cotton pillow cases at the thrift store for a dime a 
piece and use those. The greens live in the dark, in the closet under 
our basement staircase. Our humidity is low, and three months in cotton 
pillow cases seems fine to me.
vicki
Gail Shuford wrote:
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4) From: Stephen Carey
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I travel a lot, I mean a lot.  Now, in the mid-summer I am home, but 
in the fall I am away about half of the time.  So, with the amount of 
coffee I ordered, enough to cover me, some gifts, a meeting I help 
with and whatever else, it is very possible that some of the coffee 
will be around longer than 3 months.  I am keeping the little coffee 
I have (about 9lbs. are on their way) in the bags they came in, in a 
dark place that is 73F and very little or non-noticeable humidity.
I read and read and saw that opinions went all over the place, but SM 
suggested the bags, of course they sell the bags.  I bought 
some.  But not because they are on the site, not because I know which 
will and won't work, no, strictly ego - really, ego.
When my friends come over and see my little set up I want to show 
them my storage area where I have a few of the big bags SM's sells 
for $2.00 hanging on the wall and I ordered four more so I can fill 
the wall with them.  I want the coffee in the bags to look "cool."  I 
know, that is no reason to buy something, but if I look deep within 
me, okay, not that deep.  If I lift the skin of life up a bit, there 
is my coffee roasting ego, I don't have all the toys yet, so I am 
damn well going to have the cool looking bags storing some of the 
coffee.  It will make that little area look all the better and it 
won't hurt the beans, for even with my travels I expect they will go fast.
A sorry reason to buy them, isn't it.  But, there wasn't a true 
consensus, especially based on how fast we go through them, so I let 
ego win and I won't hurt the beans in the process, just embarrass 
myself in front of you all.
At 03:23 AM 8/1/2007, you wrote:
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I travel a lot, I mean a lot.  Now, in the mid-summer I
am home, but in the fall I am away about half of the time.  So, with
the amount of coffee I ordered, enough to cover me, some gifts, a meeting
I help with and whatever else, it is very possible that some of the
coffee will be around longer than 3 months.  I am keeping the little
coffee I have (about 9lbs. are on their way) in the bags they came in, in
a dark place that is 73F and very little or non-noticeable
humidity.
I read and read and saw that opinions went all over the place, but SM
suggested the bags, of course they sell the bags.  I bought
some.  But not because they are on the site, not because I know
which will and won't work, no, strictly ego - really, ego.
When my friends come over and see my little set up I want to show them my
storage area where I have a few of the big bags SM's sells for $2.00
hanging on the wall and I ordered four more so I can fill the wall with
them.  I want the coffee in the bags to look "cool." 
I know, that is no reason to buy something, but if I look deep within me,
okay, not that deep.  If I lift the skin of life up a bit, there is
my coffee roasting ego, I don't have all the toys yet, so I am damn well
going to have the cool looking bags storing some of the coffee.  It
will make that little area look all the better and it won't hurt the
beans, for even with my travels I expect they will go fast.
A sorry reason to buy them, isn't it.  But, there wasn't a true
consensus, especially based on how fast we go through them, so I let ego
win and I won't hurt the beans in the process, just embarrass myself in
front of you all.
At 03:23 AM 8/1/2007, you wrote:
My greens never seem to stay
around unroasted for more than three months. I bought cotton pillow cases
at the thrift store for a dime a piece and use those. The greens live in
the dark, in the closet under our basement staircase. Our humidity is
low, and three months in cotton pillow cases seems fine to me.
vicki
Gail Shuford wrote:
There is a limit on the quantity
of some of the cloth bags one can purchase per order from Sweet Marias so
to supplement I made some of my own out of unbleached muslin and natural
burlap purchased from a fabric store and ran drawstrings around the tops.
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5) From: Brian Kamnetz
On 8/1/07, raymanowen  wrote:
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Of course, Tom is the guy who reportedly refused to put out milk when he had
the coffee shop in Columbus....
Brian

6) From: John Brown
seems like a very good reason to me!
no different than why some buy very costly automobiles.
Stephen Carey wrote:
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