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Topic: OT: off topic posts - Re: +espresso machine (20 msgs / 434 lines)
1) From: Rich
Please mark all posts relating to potential or real off topic posts "OT" so they may be summarily deleted.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:39:26 -0500 (CDT), Jack Rogers wrote:
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2) From: Kevin
I'd argue espresso equipment questions are on topic IMHO.
On 8/6/07, Rich  wrote:
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My home coffee roasting blog:http://homecoffeeroastblog.blogspot.com/Kevin

3) From: Floyd Lozano
agree with Kevin.  correct answer would be to scope out home-barista.com (or
whatever) and coffeegeek, since those have extensive user reviews.  best
espresso machine is about as vast a topic as 'best car' or 'best computer'.
-F
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4) From: Jack M. Rogers
And you would be correct in this case.  I would disagree with you, 
because normally, the name of the list defines what is on topic.  
Anything else would be considered "off topic".  However, in this case, 
the owner trumps all that.  On http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html,he says it is:
"a free mailing list discussion of home coffee roasting and other 
closely-related coffee topics".
An espresso machine question could be considered "closely-related".  
Therefore, my first response was not appropriate, and I apologize for 
any confusion.
I guess I'll go back to working on my mail filters.
Thanks.
Jack
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5) From: Brett Mason
OK, I am with Jack - he's got it right!
The Off TOpic is now ON-TOPIC, unless not closely related to coffee.
  The Platypus, for example, would be considered Off-Topic.  Unless of
course this were a new kind of varietal from the coffee-growing regions....
Brett
On 8/6/07, Jack M. Rogers  wrote:
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6) From: David Rolenc
Or Tom has some new Platypus processed beans...
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7) From: Paul Martin
Brings a new meaning to beans from down under. :^p

8) From: Lynne Biziewski
Unless there are Platypus fossils in with the beans.
But then that would have to be OT, wouldn't it?
On 8/6/07, Paul Martin  wrote:
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9) From:
of course you would be with Jack!!!
Is that Jack Shit???
I really love it now when the OT stuff starts these days and I can simply sit back and laugh!!!
Does it really matter what OT may creep in, NO.
Will it creep in, YES.
The ONLY people who make a FUSS about OT are the folks who never POST, or post very rarely. Every LURKER in the world comes out for the OT PARADE...
we get to dance, sing songs, revile our homeroasting comrades for slinking into our mailbox...
LOL so much I can barely typeeeeeeeee!!!
ginny
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10) From: raymanowen
Everything I tipe is OT. Off Topic or On Topic.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
May Reclamo?

11) From: Leo Zick
oh the things we look forward to in life.
On 8/6/07, pchforever  wrote:
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12) From: Jack Rogers
Ginny,
On Mon, August 6, 2007 6:13 pm, pchforever wrote:
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I think he was referring to me.  Wow.  No need to make this personal.
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Apparently you have nothing else in your life to do, so you'd like to speak for the rest of us. 
It matters to me, and some others as well.  I'd rather not have to manually go through all that, I
have a life.  But again, I don't care if OT stuff is posted, I'd just like to ask the simple
courtesy of having it identified as such.
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Will I filter out what I can?  YES.  I can get off topic stuff anywhere, I don't need this list
for that.  What's the point of a topic, anyway?
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Some of us generally don't post unless we have something relevant to say.  That's not a LURKER. 
Having nothing relevant to say doesn't seem to deter some others.  Again, nothing better to do, I
guess.
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At least you've given me ONE good filter rule.  I think I can safely block posts from
pchforever
Jack

13) From: Robert Avery
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Well I have to put my two cents in ... I find it interesting sometimes =
to hear what is going on in the forum community. After a while you know =
what your needs are and take and learn from those that have the =
knowledge and willing to share it. I joined this forum some time ago and =
at that point never did think there was a fine line drawn into the sand =
on what the conversation was to be. I believe and have see it in other =
forums, the communality that develops with many of the members and =
sometimes your neighbors just don't always do what one would like. What =
happens ... fences begin to be developed and before you know it everyone =
is living in solitude and will only come when they need something. I =
hope that doesn't happen here. I enjoy the input and occasional off =
topic conversation and issue. Like they always say ... there is always =
another town ... !!!! Take care, Later, Bob

14) From: Rich
Well Bob,  I have seen just exactly what you describe happen on many lists.  They now have almost no 
traffic, say one post a week or less but they have over 400 subscribed members.  All living in their own 
little world.
There are other lists that continue to be lively and there are several postings every day and 
sometimes a lot more.  These lists do not try and tightly control the scope of the conversation, yet 
they do tend to stay on topic for the most part.  This is probably because of the common interest of the 
group.
As has been pointed out several times in the past there are both email clients and email services (web 
based) that provide excellent filtering and threading capabilities.  These programs / services are 
available for all of the various OS / computer combinations so that is not a problem.
It has been my experience that if all postings are rigidly held to the prescribed topic that the list will 
die.  That will solve the OT posting problem.
Maybe this is all the result of a lack of perspective.  Those who think the homeroast list suffers from a 
high s/n ratio should get a news reader and subscribe to alt.coffee for a while.  I would recommend 
the "Agent" program over "Free Agent".  The "Agent" has "Eudora" built into it and is full featured.  
Unfortunately, it is not free.
I think I will go and make another pot of coffee, I have finished off the first one this morning 
already....
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From: Robert Avery
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:21:15 -0400
Well I have to put my two cents in ... I find it interesting sometimes to hear what is going on in the 
forum community. After a while you know what your needs are and take and learn from those that 
have the knowledge and willing to share it. I joined this forum some time ago and at that point never 
did think there was a fine line drawn into the sand on what the conversation was to be. I believe and 
have see it in other forums, the communality that develops with many of the members and sometimes 
your neighbors just dont always do what one would like. What happens ... fences begin to be 
developed and before you know it everyone is living in solitude and will only come when they need 
something. I hope that doesnt happen here. I enjoy the input and occasional off topic conversation and 
issue. Like they always say ... there is always another town .. !!!! Take care, Later, Bob

15) From: Leo Zick
what amuses me even more than the OT posts here, is how many of these posts
arent just your random OT discussion, but entire soliloquies that really
dont say much!
"hmm, i wonder how many words i can use to describe this as OT, as long as a
follow up with 'oh im having a cup of coffee' i still have a clean
conscience!"

16) From: Rich
Leo, make a day of it, go for 1500 words....
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From: Leo Zick
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:13:01 -0400
what amuses me even more than the OT posts here, is how many of these posts arent just your random 
OT discussion, but entire soliloquies that really dont say much!
"hmm, i wonder how many words i can use to describe this as OT, as long as a follow up with 'oh im 
having a cup of coffee' i still have a clean conscience!" 

17) From: Tom Ulmer
I like this concept of absolution through coffee shots.

18) From: Brett Mason
Penance has never been so sweet....
B
On 8/8/07, Tom Ulmer  wrote:
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19) From: RK
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just my thoughts.
This is mail list of coffee people, diverse as it may be we are more =
like family, most families have fun, fight, but seem to truly care about =
one another.
This list is very similar. I enjoy the diversity of this list and on =
topic on or off I use my delete key if I do not like or want to read =
about the subject.
This list has many members that are very smart in many fields and a lot =
can be learned from these people.
Their are other list and forums that much more strict in their postings =
but this is not such a list, that's why I like it so much.
Just my thoughts
RK
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I do agree that Off Topic post should be marked as such and I beleive =
that it is also a list rule.

20) From: Angelo
Think about it. Does your message add to the noise or to the signal?
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