HomeRoast Digest


Topic: Panama Auction and Especial Gesha arrived (12 msgs / 538 lines)
1) From: Stephen Carey
Hi, all.  Well, it is here, the fabled coffees which I have never 
tasted, to my knowledge, let alone roasted; the Panama Auction Lot 
#2-Mama Cata Geisha and the Panama Esmerelda Especial - Gesha Cutltivar.
I am kind of star struck, just from what I have read on this list.  I 
also am kind of nervous about roasting them.  I want them as gifts, 
some for this weekend as I go and see my family.  They are really 
excited for me and can't wait to taste it - they will be honest, but 
kind.  My mother knows coffee, my brother, well, he has had only the 
worst every brewed, which is by his wife and his in-laws.  I never 
could get it down when I drank and would mix it with stuff to help 
it, then I tried a ton of sugar and cream and whatever it was cut 
through it all and made is rough to swallow.
Now, I have some very good stuff.  The only Panama coffee I roasted 
has been a pound (not at one time) of Panama Boquete - Lerida Estate 
Peaberry.  It turned out very good, especially the final few 
roasts.  I gave it as a gift, as I mentioned last week and was told 
something I have said.  My friend said, "Steve, it tasted like it 
smelled.  It was what is meant by "heavenly flavors."  I don't tell 
you that to brag, for I learned how to do it here.
I have to admit, I am a little gun shy about these coffees.  I feel 
more confident with the Gesha Cultivar, since it is City + and I have 
been dialing in on those fairly fast.  But, I do have a starting 
profile for each one, from there I will teak and see what I get.
However, before that, I think I will roast some Guatemala Fraijanes - 
Finca Aqua Tibia to practice a bit more with Full City roasts, 
besides, I have the feeling it will be good.
Any hints to the Panama coffee?  Or am I letting the fact of its 
price, history, the way it is loved, etc. intimidate me?
Thanks for any help.

2) From: Les
Ok Stephen!  I am going to show you how snobby a coffee snob I can be.
 Actually I am doing you a big, Big, BIg, BIG favor!!!!!!! Don't gift
your extra special coffees to your family and non-homeroaster friends.
 They will not appreciate it, nor will they know how special it really
is.  I have a $6.00 limit.  I don't homeroast any gift coffee that
costs over $6.00 a pound.  They will love the coffee and you will feel
the satisfaction of a job well done!  Most often I gift a Columbian or
a Brazil these are the flavors that most non-homeroasters are familiar
with and they will like them.  I also gift a good Mexican coffee or
central if they have a little sophistication.  I will never gift them
a good Kenya, or Ethiopian.  Oh, a good PNG is usually appreciated as
well.  You have been warned!
Les
On 8/6/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
<Snip>

3) From: Eddie Dove
Stephen,
I am in violent agreement with Les!
Eddie
--
Got gift coffee?
On 8/6/07, Les  wrote:
<Snip>

4) From: scott miller
raises hand!
I made the mistake of gifting some Lekempti ... only made that mistake once.
Even when people say they "love good coffee", you have to realize it's
entirely possible their coffee paradigm is such that beans of an
indeterminate age & origin freshly ground at Barnie's in the mall is the
good coffee they love; a hand crafted, rare bean at the peak of freshness
just isn't on their radar. I don't mean to belittle someone else's idea of
good coffee, but I'm not always talking the same language when someone tells
me they think fruited flavors in a bean are a good thing.
What I described as a marmalade sweetness to my friend didn't register with
her. She was probably thinking she was going to get a cup that tasted like
that blueberry crumb cake flavored bean of the week at some coffee cart that
doubles as a carnival midway cotton candy stand.
I swapped out the Lekempti with her for some Oaxaca and she was much
happier. I'm not even going to attempt explaining Jacu Bird beans to her
.
cheers,
Scott
On 8/6/07, Eddie Dove  wrote:
<Snip>

5) From: Stephen Carey
--=====================_47212890==.ALT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Les,
I feel a little guilty, but I am already on board with you.  As I was 
putting the coffee away, I thought I will I do this.  They will 
appreciate any good coffee, for them the fact that it is home roasted 
is the big deal.  So, they will get some of  the other of my stash or 
whatever I will buy.
Smart thinking!!
At 09:50 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
<Snip>
--=====================_47212890==.ALT
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Les,
I feel a little guilty, but I am already on board with you.  As I
was putting the coffee away, I thought I will I do this.  They will
appreciate any good coffee, for them the fact that it is home roasted is
the big deal.  So, they will get some of  the other of my stash
or whatever I will buy.
Smart thinking!!
At 09:50 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
Ok Stephen!  I am going to
show you how snobby a coffee snob I can be.
 Actually I am doing you a big, Big, BIg, BIG favor!!!!!!! Don't
gift
your extra special coffees to your family and non-homeroaster
friends.
 They will not appreciate it, nor will they know how special it
really
is.  I have a $6.00 limit.  I don't homeroast any gift coffee
that
costs over $6.00 a pound.  They will love the coffee and you will
feel
the satisfaction of a job well done!  Most often I gift a Columbian
or
a Brazil these are the flavors that most non-homeroasters are
familiar
with and they will like them.  I also gift a good Mexican coffee
or
central if they have a little sophistication.  I will never gift
them
a good Kenya, or Ethiopian.  Oh, a good PNG is usually appreciated
as
well.  You have been warned!
Les
On 8/6/07, Stephen Carey <steve> wrote:
> Hi, all.  Well, it is here, the fabled coffees which I have
never
> tasted, to my knowledge, let alone roasted; the Panama Auction
Lot
> #2-Mama Cata Geisha and the Panama Esmerelda Especial - Gesha
Cutltivar.
>
> I am kind of star struck, just from what I have read on this
list.  I
> also am kind of nervous about roasting them.  I want them as
gifts,
> some for this weekend as I go and see my family.  They are
really
> excited for me and can't wait to taste it - they will be honest,
but
> kind.  My mother knows coffee, my brother, well, he has had
only the
> worst every brewed, which is by his wife and his in-laws.  I
never
> could get it down when I drank and would mix it with stuff to
help
> it, then I tried a ton of sugar and cream and whatever it was
cut
> through it all and made is rough to swallow.
>
> Now, I have some very good stuff.  The only Panama coffee I
roasted
> has been a pound (not at one time) of Panama Boquete - Lerida
Estate
> Peaberry.  It turned out very good, especially the final
few
> roasts.  I gave it as a gift, as I mentioned last week and was
told
> something I have said.  My friend said, "Steve, it tasted
like it
> smelled.  It was what is meant by "heavenly
flavors."  I don't tell
> you that to brag, for I learned how to do it here.
>
> I have to admit, I am a little gun shy about these coffees.  I
feel
> more confident with the Gesha Cultivar, since it is City + and I
have
> been dialing in on those fairly fast.  But, I do have a
starting
> profile for each one, from there I will teak and see what I
get.
>
> However, before that, I think I will roast some Guatemala Fraijanes
-
> Finca Aqua Tibia to practice a bit more with Full City roasts,
> besides, I have the feeling it will be good.
>
> Any hints to the Panama coffee?  Or am I letting the fact of
its
> price, history, the way it is loved, etc. intimidate me?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> homeroast mailing list
>
http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast> To change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations,
unsvbscribes) go to
http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings>
homeroast mailing list
http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations,
unsvbscribes) go to
http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings--=====================_47212890==.ALT--

6) From: Brett Mason
Scott!
Take some beans, and Fido out for a walk...  You can certainly gift
something special - just takes a little more work....
Brett
On 8/6/07, scott miller  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

7) From: Justin Marquez
The most frequent gift coffee I give out is El Recreo, a really nice Guat
from R. Dalton, costing about $3 a pound. It is also one I drink a lot of
myself as well. Although recently I am in stash reduction mode, so I have
also given or sold more expensive stuff too.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 8/6/07, Les  wrote:
<Snip>
--

8) From: Edward Bourgeois
Roasted up some Panama Esmeralda last night city+. Trying to let it
rest til tomorrow. Just spent a couple minutes with my nose in the
bag. Wow smells soooo good. complex. potent.
On 8/6/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
<Snip>

9) From: DJ Garcia
I've been out of town for a week visiting my family in Puerto Rico and
drinking Café Bustelo :-(, and will third / fourth / fifth what Les =
said.
And I just noticed Outlook accented the Café automatically - I'm =
impressed
Mr. Gates! There's always a first time :-). Or maybe there's a bunch of
hispanic programmers working long nights on Outlook :-)
DJ
Getting ready to roast some Panama ...

10) From: Homeroaster
So close to all that PR Yauco Selecto 'wonder coffee' and drinking Café
Bustelo.  So sad.
(Too bad outlook didn't capitalize Hispanic.  Who invented that word 
anyway?)
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

11) From: DJ Garcia
Beats the hell out of me Ed :-). I'm always conflicted between Spanish,
which is Caucasian, and Hispanic, which I think implies mixed native =
Central
/ South American blood? I do have some Venezuelan blood from my maternal
grandfather, the rest being Spanish. I'm told my great-great uncle was
President and was told not to bother coming back while on a trip to =
Europe
...
Outlook didn't capitalize Café Bustelo either, which I did but not =
Hispanic
- shows where my priorities are :-). Ahh, that Zimbabwe cup is restoring =
my
taste buds and self-esteem!

12) From: Sandy Andina
--Apple-Mail-20-339065572
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charsetO-8859-1;
	delsp=yes;
	format=flowed
I thought that demographically, "Hispanic" meant having any Spanish  
or Spanish-descended blood at all, whether mestizo or purebred, Old  
World or New."Latina/Latino," refers to those of New World Spanish  
descent (e.g., Latin American), regardless of "percentage"  of Latin  
American blood.
On Aug 12, 2007, at 2:54 PM, DJ Garcia wrote:
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
--Apple-Mail-20-339065572
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/html;
	charsetO-8859-1
I thought that demographically, =
"Hispanic" meant having any Spanish or Spanish-descended blood at all, =
whether mestizo or purebred, Old World or New."Latina/Latino," refers to =
those of New World Spanish descent (e.g., Latin American), regardless of =
"percentage"  of Latin American blood. 
On Aug 12, =
2007, at 2:54 PM, DJ Garcia wrote:
Beats the hell out of me Ed :-). I'm always = conflicted between Spanish,which is = Caucasian, and Hispanic, which I think implies mixed native = Central/ South American blood? I do = have some Venezuelan blood from my maternalPresident and was told not to = bother coming back while on a trip to Europe... Outlook didn't capitalize Café = Bustelo either, which I did but not Hispanic- shows where my priorities are :-). Ahh, that = Zimbabwe cup is restoring mytaste buds = and self-esteem! From: homeroast-admin= s.sweetmarias.com[mailto:homeroast-adm= in] On Behalf Of HomeroasterSent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:45 PMTo: homeroast= s.comSubject: Re: +Panama Auction and = Especial Gesha arrived So close to all that PR Yauco Selecto 'wonder = coffee' and drinking CaféBustelo.  So sad. (Too bad outlook = didn't capitalize Hispanic.  = Who inventedthat word *********************Ed Needham"to absurdity = and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
= = --Apple-Mail-20-339065572--


HomeRoast Digest