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Topic: Reality Check: Solis Maestro for espresso (8 msgs / 180 lines)
1) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Hi all - I spent the better of 2 hours playing with a new Solis 
Maestro (Plus) and a Rancilio Silvia (stock, 1 week of use) and had a 
lot of trouble. I was able to make good espresso, certainly not 
ristretto but nice shots. The Silvia was a champ, and had tons of 
pressure - eventually I wasn't even bothering with temperature 
surfing, etc. But the Maestro seemed, well, inadequate. Now, I took 
that same mill upstairs and did much better things with it using my 
Andreja, a deeper filterbasket, bottomless, etc. But the 
Maestro-Silvia combination was not a winner.
The sage advice "buy the best mill you can, then budget for your 
espresso machine" seems true as always, but I wanted some feedback. 
Is it fair to even mention the term espresso with a Maestro if it is 
going to be at it's performance limit? Or have any of you felt the 
Maestro is serving you well for espresso ...
Tom
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2) From: raymanowen
My SMP was certainly as good as me (?!!??) after I put the Virtuoso burrs i=
n
it. Kyle Anderson is a Prince. By then, it already had a new home.
One of these days, I intend to do some real espresso brewing. For now the
funny-looking Capresso Luxe allows me tune my cavalcade of errors. Amazing
what you can "tune out" with a BUFF grinder.
In my opinion, I really could succeed with the SMP and a set of Virtuoso
burrs. Except for the upper ring burr's having been cut with a progressivel=
y
duller cutter or broach, the original configuration was just fine. As it
was, the rough-cut upper burr had burrs itself that scratched the beans at
all grind settings.
My Mazzer fire hydrant that grinds coffee actually has 100 settings in the
360 from burr clash to the first full turn open. It's easy to interpolat=
e
400 resettable steps in that range, and there are actually 12 different
settings I use when I'm trying to brew espresso drinks.
I think my concave tamper is rong, but I'll have to wait for Les' flat
bottomed artwork until the eagle comes back to roost. Meanwhile, I have som=
e
machine ideas to try in espresso brewing. eBay might not be a bad source of
parts clunkers, absent the snipers and sellers that "have no knowledge."
They actually taught me a Better Way with the Major.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
If you wanna grind, get a grinder
On 8/8/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee 
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
Nope, myself and many others have been saying for years a Maestro is
marginal at best for espresso duties. It will work ok with faux crema PF
machines like *$ Barista, Saeco etc. But then not talking even close to top
quality espresso potential anyway...
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found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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4) From: Randall Nortman
Has anybody tried the Baratza Virtuoso (newest in the Maestro line)
for espresso?  It has a better burr set, 40 steps of adjustment, and
can be very easily made stepless.  I use it with my Aeropress and it's
quite good -- produces a nice, consistent grind without much fine
powder.  It certainly can grind fine enough, and you can calibrate the
zero position to be just shy of burrs touching (or you can make them
touch at the cost of more wear, if you want turkish).  I don't have an
espresso machine yet, but eventually I figure I will, and I'd like to
know if I should plan on a grinder upgrade right away when I do, or if
it's worth playing with the Virtuoso for a while first.
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5) From: Sandy Andina
I used a Maestro for the first two months I had a Silvia, and the  
only thing I didn't like about it was either static if I ground into  
the PF or having to scoop coffee out of the catchbin and try to dose  
that way if I didn't. No God shots, but good shots. However, the  
Rocky was a quantum leap up in quality, and continued to be so when I  
got a Livia; and the Livia-Mazzer Mini combo certainly a giant step  
up from that.
I still use the Maestro, but only for brewed coffee.
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6) From: stereoplegic
actually, i'm using a *$ barista burr grinder (basically an original 
maestro) w/ my Gaggia Carezza. since the maestro upgrade kit and 
replacing the adjustment ring a few notches finer (before and especially 
after my semi-stepless mod for the grinder and going bottomless on the 
Carezza's PF) i've gotten great shots, including ristrettos. the 
clumping is a factor, though, so i rely upon the Weiss distribution 
technique.
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7) From: stereoplegic
actually, i'm using a *$ barista burr grinder (basically an original 
maestro) w/ my Gaggia Carezza. since the maestro upgrade kit and 
replacing the adjustment ring a few notches finer (before and especially 
after my semi-stepless mod for the grinder and going bottomless on the 
Carezza's PF) i've gotten great shots, including ristrettos. the 
clumping is a factor, though, so i rely upon the Weiss distribution 
technique.
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8) From: stereoplegic
sorry about the double post, been having lotsa trouble getting my 
messages to send lately (dunno if it's your server or my firefox, i love 
the fox despite its little bugs). just wanted to add that static isn't a 
problem as long as i clean my burrs, chute and grounds container regularly.
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