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Topic: *$ Barista machine (Barry Luterman) (4 msgs / 121 lines)
1) From: Kevin Creason
 > Here's a quote from a post on the CoffeeGeek.com forum:
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Question: what does a nonpressurized portafilter do for the coffee 
brewing? Doesn't the pressurized PF help it get to the right temp and 
pressure?
I'm on my second Barista (TM) machine-- the first one lasted 6 years and 
with a valve change, new head gasket, and new pickup hose it could 
probably do a few more. I know its not the best machine out there but 
when they go on sale/clearance they are a very good deal.
When my original portafilter started cracking at the handle I checked 
online for prices and then called *$; *$ was cheaper by $20. But they 
probably don't have a nonpressurized one.

2) From: Michael Dhabolt
Kevin,
It has been a few years since I retired my *$ Barista, so things may
have changed.  The service I received from them was absolutely
exemplary, the 'Barista' had just changed from the colored enameled
housings to the newer rounded version (available in Stainless Steel).
I had purchased a second, new style, machine for home and was taking
the older unit on the road with me.  I called their service folks and
asked about the non-pressurized PF, was told they would ship it with
my order for spare group gaskets and odds n' ends.  When I received
the order (free overnight express) there were two non-pressurized PF's
included (no-charge).  During the seven or eight years during which I
owned one or two of these machines, I was never left with less than a
warm n' fuzzy feeling when dealing with their service folks.
Mike (just plain)

3) From: raymanowen
"...what does a nonpressurized portafilter do for the coffee brewing?
Doesn't the pressurized PF help it get to the right temp and
pressure?"
Yes, but it's like riding a bike with training wheels...
Take the plastic pressurizing diaphragm out of the bottom of the PF
and save your money. Just one #1 Phillips screw in my Capresso got rid
of it- then there's my total lack of knowledge and experience.
I don't think I'm gaining much trying to perfect shots on the little
machine, but no eagles airborne right now. I suspect the pump is a
weakfish, to deflect some blame. Karen, the Celtic Critic, approves
most of my shots. Ha! Those are the ones I have her try out.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Live and learn. I know how Not to brew espresso drinks...
On 8/10/07, Kevin Creason  wrote:
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"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the
Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

4) From: Sandy Andina
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On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Kevin Creason wrote:
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No, the press. PF merely creates more resistance and forces air  
through the grounds, producing a short-lived fake crema and making it  
impossible for you to meaningfully impact on the quality by  
manipulating grind and tamp.  A non-press. PF will not in and of  
itself "do" anything for the coffee--but it enables YOU to do so by  
controlling those variable parameters (skills you will need when you  
move up to a real machine or seek work as a barista).
Sandy Andina
www.sandyandina.com
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at 9:10 PM, Kevin Creason wrote:

Question: what does a = nonpressurized portafilter do for the coffee brewing? Doesn't the = pressurized PF help it get to the right temp and pressure?

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No, = the press. PF merely creates more resistance and forces air through the = grounds, producing a short-lived fake crema and making it impossible for = you to meaningfully impact on the quality by manipulating grind and = tamp.  A non-press. PF will not in and of itself "do" anything for the = coffee--but it enables YOU to do so by controlling those variable = parameters (skills you will need when you move up to a real machine or = seek work as a barista). Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.com = --Apple-Mail-42-189104715--


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