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Topic: Suggest greens? (35 msgs / 1200 lines)
1) From: George
Hi, I would order ANY Sumatra coffee.  For a matter of fact, any Sumatra =
and
most Indonesians.  I have a lot of different origins in my stash, but the
sumatras and Indonesians are my favorites.  Also most Africans, excluding
the Kenya types. 
George
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2) From: Brian Kamnetz
Hi,
I wasn't expecting to be ordering any greens for a while, so wasn't paying
much attention to reports on various coffees. Now I am ordering something
that will be shipped via UPS, so I thought I would add a couple pounds of
greens.
Every now and then a special coffee comes along. Examples are Misty Valley
and Lot 30 Horse. I missed out on Poco Fundo. Any quick suggestions for me?
Thanks for your help!
Brian

3) From: miKe mcKoffee
If you're a fan of WP Yirg's and haven't picked any up the Kochere is
excellent. If you haven't tried a WP Yirg this would be a great time to try
it. And of course both Panama Gesha's are still in stock. Beyond that the
list of excellent greens goes on and on and on...
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brian Kamnetz
	Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:38 AM
	
	Hi,
	
	I wasn't expecting to be ordering any greens for a while, so wasn't
paying much attention to reports on various coffees. Now I am ordering
something that will be shipped via UPS, so I thought I would add a couple
pounds of greens. 
	
	Every now and then a special coffee comes along. Examples are Misty
Valley and Lot 30 Horse. I missed out on Poco Fundo. Any quick suggestions
for me?
	
	Thanks for your help!
	
	Brian

4) From: Jeff Oien
Brian Kamnetz wrote:
<Snip>http://www.sweetmarias.com/coffee.central.guatemala.html#SanJoseOcanaLast year's Blue Quetzal that everyone loved. 89.3.
JeffO

5) From: Brian Kamnetz
miKe,
Thanks for your suggestions. As it turns out, I wasn't planning on ordering,
as I mentioned, and it is because I just received an order of greens, and
among those I received is the Kochere.
As far as the Gesha's, I think I will stick in my usual range of $5-8/lb.
Again, thanks for your suggestions.
I was thinking of the Sumatra Blue Batek "Tarbarita" peaberry, just because
it seems like I recall people raving about the Blue Batak.  Any other
suggestions?
Thanks,
Brian
On 8/16/07, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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6) From: Brian Kamnetz
Jeff,
It must have just sold out.... I'm not seeing it on the Guatemala page....
Brian
On 8/16/07, Jeff Oien  wrote:
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
It's the" Guatemala Chimeltenango - San José Ocaña", from Tom's =
write-up:
"Notes: We offered this coffee last year ... but I just didn't know it.
Funny how things work in the coffee world ... the exporter had put their =
own
"brand" name on the bags, "Blue Quetzal", rather than the farm name, San
Jose Ocana. The farm is from an original land grant of 1623, and the =
owners
have now grown coffee here for 5 generations! The odd thing is, I have =
been
trying to buy this Finca San Jose coffee for a couple years, but it =
usually
was pre-sold to Europe or Japan. A broker offered me "Blue Quetzal" and =
I
loved it, fully recognizing the similarity, the classic Bourbon-like cup
character that was reminicent of the San Jose samples I had cupped. So =
it
was more than uncanny similarity, I now know. And as a confirmation of =
the
great cup quality (not that it is needed here but ...) this farm won #2 =
spot
in the 2007 Guatemala Cup of Excellence. So we offer this coffee with a
twisted tale behind it, but the core facts are the same: I have been =
trying
to buy this lot for years, and it's one of my favorite Guatemala =
coffees,
ever..."
miKe
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brian =
Kamnetz
	Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:19 AM
	
	
	Jeff,
	
	It must have just sold out.... I'm not seeing it on the Guatemala
page....
	
	Brian

8) From: Brian Kamnetz
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9) From: Barry Luterman
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It's now called:
1007-5 Guatemala Chimeltenango - San Jose Ocana 
Also the new Sumatra Gayo Mountain is in.

10) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks for the greens suggestions. My order is now in.
Brian
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Damn, and I just ordered a dozen pounds this morning, and this wasn't in it.
Frank Parth

12) From: Barry Luterman
I strongly suggest you go back and put in another order. It was outstanding 
last year. It will not be around for too long

13) From: Rick Copple
Barry Luterman wrote:
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I was just staring at these and thinking I'm going to have to order some 
just to make sure I get some. Didn't last year, for one reason or 
another. Wasn't planning on ordering, but when I'm ready, they might be 
gone. Now see what you all have done! ;)
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Rick Copple

14) From: Frank Parth
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Barry, I went ahead and did that. And as usual got carried away and order a few more pounds of this and that. Between 
the two orders yesterday I've got another 20 pounds of beans coming. Up until now I've been able to keep my stash 
comfortably in a nook in the kitchen cabinets. With yesterday's orders I'll have way too much for that area. Hmmmm, I 
wonder if I could make a small cabinet specifically for storing beans and equipment so that SWMBO gets her cabinets 
back?
Frank Parth

15) From: Barry Luterman
At one point, 2 years ago, my wife got a whole new kitchen with granite tops 
as a result of my taking more and more kitchen space. I think getting into 
home roasting to save money is a myth. Drinking $15 a pound coffee which 
costs me less than $6 a pound will still take me 230 years to break even and 
that's not counting for broken espresso cups.

16) From: Bob
Barry Luterman wrote:
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I have to agree. I never thought of "breaking even" when I first got 
into roasting. I entertained the idea of doing it as a business, but 
that went out the window fairly quick. I enjoy the coffee. People I 
roast for enjoy the coffee. A Large stash ensures that I will have good 
coffee when I want.
Bob

17) From: Stephen Carey
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I ordered some.  I have never tried it and it sounded too good to let 
it go.  I also ordered another 3 pounds of various coffees.  I know 
it doesn't sound like a lot, but that gives me 13.5 pounds of 15 
kinds of coffee.  I know I should be buying a few pounds of one to 
get it perfect, but there is just so much out there, I want to try as 
many as I can and come back to the ones that need a lot of work and 
that I can tell I like a lot.
I am the only one who drinks coffee in this house, there is a limit 
to how much I can drink, though it has gone up since I started 
roasting.  Seriously, I have doubled the amount, even my "off" roasts 
are better than what I had before.  And when I hit it right on, I 
take copious notes and hope I can hit it again.
We have a tiny kitchen, so I have taken part of the utility room for 
my little IR2, dryer hose, thermometer, colander, and so on.  I have 
taken a spare bedroom and store the coffee there.  It is very cool, 
fairly dark, and there is room.  I also am hanging the used coffee 
delivery bags that SM sells on the walls to give it a coffee 
feel.  So, I am spread all over the place.  For now, it works just 
fine.  I can find whatever bag I need, the coffee I need, the scale 
and other equipment.  One day I will have a dedicated room for it 
all, but right now it is about having fun, keeping costs down, and 
getting better at roasting, but all topped off by sitting and 
enjoying a fresh cup of coffee.  Oh, what a feeling.
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I ordered some.  I have never tried it and it sounded
too good to let it go.  I also ordered another 3 pounds of various
coffees.  I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but that gives me 13.5
pounds of 15 kinds of coffee.  I know I should be buying a few
pounds of one to get it perfect, but there is just so much out there, I
want to try as many as I can and come back to the ones that need a lot of
work and that I can tell I like a lot.
I am the only one who drinks coffee in this house, there is a limit to
how much I can drink, though it has gone up since I started
roasting.  Seriously, I have doubled the amount, even my
"off" roasts are better than what I had before.  And when
I hit it right on, I take copious notes and hope I can hit it
again.
We have a tiny kitchen, so I have taken part of the utility room for my
little IR2, dryer hose, thermometer, colander, and so on.  I have
taken a spare bedroom and store the coffee there.  It is very cool,
fairly dark, and there is room.  I also am hanging the used coffee
delivery bags that SM sells on the walls to give it a coffee feel. 
So, I am spread all over the place.  For now, it works just
fine.  I can find whatever bag I need, the coffee I need, the scale
and other equipment.  One day I will have a dedicated room for it
all, but right now it is about having fun, keeping costs down, and
getting better at roasting, but all topped off by sitting and enjoying a
fresh cup of coffee.  Oh, what a feeling.
At 07:28 PM 8/16/2007, you wrote:
I strongly suggest you go back
and put in another order. It was outstanding last year. It will not be
around for too long
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18) From: Barry Luterman
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Stephan you will really enjoy the Guat. It is an outstanding coffee. =
This addiction is insidious it has a tendency to take over your =
thoughts,space and funds. The next thing you can expect is to stop =
ordering coffee outside the house. Traveling with you own coffee stash =
and paraphernalia. Having coffee at only other list members homes and =
obsessing that you should have bought more of the Guat when it was =
available.

19) From: W. Simon
Continuing on the discussion of suggestions, here is my order:
1007-20        Guatemala Chimeltenango - San Jose Ocana -20 lbs
1060           India Mysore Nuggets Extra Bold -1 lb
1016-2         Nicaragua Matagalpa -Pacamara Peaberry -2 lbs
1015-10        Nicaragua Limoncillo Estate - Java Longberry -10 lbs
I love centrals, so the Chimeltenango was a no-brainer.  I've never tried
the mysore nuggets or a pacamara.
Wes
On 8/17/07, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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20) From: Stephen Carey
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Barry, you are so right.  This last trip was easy, I was taking some 
for my mother, where we stayed, it was great to not have to miss it, 
though she does buy freshly roasted coffee from a great shop in her 
little town (I got to meet the owner, who was great and gave me his 
email address to drop him a note if I have trouble and offered to 
help my mother if she wants to start roasting her own.  For now I 
will be sending her coffee every other week or so.  She too is 
brewing it twice a day now - this is like a Sci-Fi movie and I am 
being taken over by an outside coffee creature.)
Now I have to figure out how to take it with me when I travel for a 
week or so.  I guess I can Fed Ex a bag of coffee, freshly roasted, 
my grinder, and then use the in room little pot - which I fear will 
not be hot enough, or I buy a small French Press and take it with me, 
ordering boiling water from room service.  That part will be tough, 
when we are producing a show I am up at 4:30, well before room 
service, so the little coffee pot it may be.  I will have to see what 
I can work out.  I think that if I roast enough for a week the night 
before I need to Fed Ex it, I will be fine with the flavor.  The real 
problem will be the catered team/crew meals.  I will have to find a 
way to get back to my room to make my coffee.
I can't wait to try the Guat.  I have other ones, but not this, the 
one I have heard so much about.  Wish me well, it will be here by mid week!!!
Stephen
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Barry, you are so right.  This last trip was easy, I
was taking some for my mother, where we stayed, it was great to not have
to miss it, though she does buy freshly roasted coffee from a great shop
in her little town (I got to meet the owner, who was great and gave me
his email address to drop him a note if I have trouble and offered to
help my mother if she wants to start roasting her own.  For now I
will be sending her coffee every other week or so.  She too is
brewing it twice a day now - this is like a Sci-Fi movie and I am being
taken over by an outside coffee creature.)
Now I have to figure out how to take it with me when I travel for a week
or so.  I guess I can Fed Ex a bag of coffee, freshly roasted, my
grinder, and then use the in room little pot - which I fear will not be
hot enough, or I buy a small French Press and take it with me, ordering
boiling water from room service.  That part will be tough, when we
are producing a show I am up at 4:30, well before room service, so the
little coffee pot it may be.  I will have to see what I can work
out.  I think that if I roast enough for a week the night before I
need to Fed Ex it, I will be fine with the flavor.  The real problem
will be the catered team/crew meals.  I will have to find a way to
get back to my room to make my coffee.
I can't wait to try the Guat.  I have other ones, but not this, the
one I have heard so much about.  Wish me well, it will be here by
mid week!!!
Stephen
At 04:40 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
Stephan you
will really enjoy the Guat. It is an outstanding coffee. This addiction
is insidious it has a tendency to take over your thoughts,space and
funds. The next thing you can expect is to stop ordering coffee outside
the house. Traveling with you own coffee stash and paraphernalia. Having
coffee at only other list members homes and obsessing that you should
have bought more of the Guat when it was available.
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21) From: Amy Bailey
I started roasting mostly because of the limited fresh roasted coffee in my
area.  It was getting to be a hassle to keep fresh coffee at home, and even
then, I was only buying a half pound at a time, because I don't drink
much coffee (1-2 c a day), and I'm only buying it for me.  It helps that
it's not MORE expensive than buying roasted coffee.  And roasting at home is
FUN!  :)
              ---Amy (8 popper roasts so far)
On 8/17/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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22) From: Barry Luterman
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I would add the Sumatra Gayo Mtn. Too many Sumatra's are earthy almost =
tasting dirty. Not so the Gayo Mtn it has the distinctive Sumatran taste =
yet retains a clean taste.

23) From: Barry Luterman
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My basic travel kit is, Aeropress, Zass, hotpot and thermos,greens in a =
valve bag. If there is not enough room left in my luggage for underwear =
so be it. Priorities, Priorities

24) From: Stephen Carey
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Consider it ordered.  So for this week I have ordered: the Guat we 
discussed.  And:
Brazil Cachoeira da Grama -Yellow Bourbon
Colombia Huila -San Augustin Microlot
Sumatra Blue Batak "Tarbarita" Peaberry
I will let you know how the Guat turns out.
Tonight I am roasting about a pound of Tanzania NgoroNgoro Convent - 
have never had it, but I loved Tom's description of it and the 
roaster I met while visiting my mother said it was "filled with a 
true basket of fruit, including apple and pear."  That is almost just 
like Tom's description.  Maybe he gets his stash there, he certainly 
knew of Sweet Maria's Web site.  I still get kind of nervous, but 
that is okay, it adds to the fun when I take that first sip.
At 06:25 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
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Consider it ordered.  So for this week I have ordered:
the Guat we discussed.  And:
Brazil Cachoeira da Grama -Yellow Bourbon 
Colombia Huila -San Augustin Microlot
Sumatra Blue Batak "Tarbarita" Peaberry 
I will let you know how the Guat turns out.  
Tonight I am roasting about a pound of Tanzania NgoroNgoro Convent - have
never had it, but I loved Tom's description of it and the roaster I met
while visiting my mother said it was "filled with a true basket of
fruit, including apple and pear."  That is almost just like
Tom's description.  Maybe he gets his stash there, he certainly knew
of Sweet Maria's Web site.  I still get kind of nervous, but that is
okay, it adds to the fun when I take that first sip.
At 06:25 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
I would add
the Sumatra Gayo Mtn. Too many Sumatra's are earthy almost tasting dirty.
Not so the Gayo Mtn it has the distinctive Sumatran taste yet retains a
clean taste.

25) From: raymanowen
IS 230 YEARS TOO LONG? HELP IS ONLY AN EMAIL AWAY!!
On 8/17/07, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the
Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

26) From: Wes Tyler
Barry..which model Zass do you travel with?
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From: Barry Luterman 
To: homeroast=
.sweetmarias.com
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:28:09 PM
Subject: Re: =
+Suggest greens?
 
 
My basic travel kit is, Aeropress=
, Zass, hotpot and 
thermos,greens in a valve bag. If there is not enough=
 room left in my luggage 
for underwear so be it. Priorities, Priorities=

27) From: Barry Luterman
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I have the 169 DG

28) From: Brett Mason
I use a 499 and a 151 for drip and presspot, daily.  My drip coffee rocks -
so I am not sure what the problem is that some of the others have been
mentioning...
Brett
  Zassman
On 8/18/07, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

29) From:
Saw someone mention using the little hotel coffee pots to brew.  Just keep in mind they probably have NEVER EVER been cleaned, so bring some cleaner or vinegar, and remember they use pods and are small so you'll need to bring filters and make sure they are small.  I had to improvise & do cowboy coffee recently b/c I didn't think about that.  (Cowboy coffee was pretty good, though. Who knew you could brew good coffee w/ a couple styrofoam cups a plastic spoon and a microwave.  Couldn't have done it without all the knowledge I got from this list and would have had to settle for the black poison served in the hallway.)
TIM
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----- Original Message ----
From: Barry Luterman 
To: homeroast
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:28:09 PM
Subject: Re: +Suggest greens?
My basic travel kit is, Aeropress, Zass, hotpot and 
thermos,greens in a valve bag. If there is not enough room left in my luggage 
for underwear so be it. Priorities, Priorities

30) From: Rick Copple
Brett Mason wrote:
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I've also always had good drip from my Zass grind. Never noticed a problem.
-- 
Rick Copplehttp://www.rlcopple.com/

31) From: Les
Everyone is ranting about the Guat.  How about the Blue Batak.  This
is one of the top five coffees in my opinion.  It it the coffee that
brought about the new coffee term pournography.  Check out this pourn
from the blue batak peaberry the last time it was offered.
www.thortamper.com/liquidsilk.html.  I am going to break stash
reduction to get  Blue Batak!
Les
On 8/19/07, George  wrote:
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32) From: Tom Ulmer
The Placeras Estate "Miel" makes one of the finest cappuccinos I believe
I've ever had.

33) From: Brian Kamnetz
I'm happy to see your post, Les. Of course, my order is in, and this is what
I got:
1075
Sumatra Blue Batak "Tarbarita" Peaberry -1 lb $5.60
1007
Guatemala Chimeltenango - San Jose Ocana -1 lb $5.40
so it looks like I hit the mother lode.
George, concerning the Sumatran, I agree. My "main" 12# order, a couple
weeks ago, included an 8# sampler. Two of the remaining four pounds were as
follows:
1074  Aged Sumatra Mandheling '04 Crop -1 lb
1072  Sumatra Classic Mandheling -1 lb
As is true of Stephen, I am the only coffee drinker in my house, and I drink
only one 12-oz mug a day (26 grams of coffee), so I don't get to order very
often, and usually soon after I order I get a severe case of buyer's remorse
for having missed a new offering that everyone is raving about. But this
time I feel pretty good!
Brian
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34) From: Eddie Dove
Brian,
That Sumatra Classic Mandheling was EXCELLENT!  Let us know what you
think about it!
Eddie
-- 
Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/

35) From: Eddie Dove
Les,
When you get it roasted, let us know when to stop by so that you can
pull us some of those exquisite shots.
Eddie
-- 
Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 8/19/07, Les  wrote:
Everyone is ranting about the Guat.  How about the Blue Batak.  This
is one of the top five coffees in my opinion.  It it the coffee that
brought about the new coffee term pournography.  Check out this pourn
from the blue batak peaberry the last time it was offered.
www.thortamper.com/liquidsilk.html.  I am going to break stash
reduction to get  Blue Batak!
Les


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