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Topic: outside roast - IR2- and felt stoned (10 msgs / 543 lines)
1) From: Stephen Carey
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This was a weird roast for me - Columbia Cup of Excellence - El Caucho.
To be fair I started a new med for pain, called 
Lyrica .  Wow, 
not easy to get used to, all of the side effects, from double vision 
to loss of hair to fainting.  So day three, I am a little better and 
need to roast.  The new drugs are working okay on the pain, but 
mostly I am bored from not being able to really move. And, I am on 
another very strong pain killer, plus the other meds that make me 
feel  kind of ill.  Such is life, we have our bad days.
I decide to roast outside because in the shade the temperature is 
about the same in the house on this glorious day. I still have double 
vision and a lot of trouble focusing - I have been typing 15 minutes 
to get this far, so my brain is still messed up, that drug better really work.
I am going for a FC roast, though a City + would be good to, 
according what I have read on this bean.  Just as I get to my profile 
(see below) and start the roast, two lawn mowers start up.  Now, my 
mind is overwhelmed with sounds.  I am doing my best to listen for 
the 1st crack.  Then the machine has a slight vibration noise to it, 
which I have never noticed because I have the exhaust hose on the top 
and am holding it.  So, senses it is, but I can barely hear.
I hear the first crack at 5:16 into the roast, a bit early for this 
profile and what I expected, but cool, the beans look and smell right 
on.  Then I hear what I think is the beginning of the second crack 
over the noise of the lawn mowers and the machine.  I stop the roast, 
it goes through its cooling cycle, I take out the beans and continue 
cooling them in a colander with a wooden spoon.  I do the bean 
crunch, not bad.  I can actually taste a touch of tobacco, I mean 
barely.  Could be my messed up mind, but I believe it is there.  I 
give a bean to my partner, who doesn't like coffee, but will do a 
bean crunch for me, I don't tell him what I tasted, just let him, he 
tastes "coffee," but then says and "something like at my 
grandfather's old farm, the tobacco after drying."
Hey, I might have hit it or ruined it, will know later.  Right now, 
going out and trying for City+ this time to see if I can do it.  Wish me luck.
My Profile Six:
340f for 2:15
395f for 3:15
450: for 2:30 
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This was a weird roast for me - Columbia Cup of Excellence - El
Caucho.
To be fair I started a new med for pain, called
Lyrica
.  Wow, not easy to get used to, all of the side effects, from
double vision to loss of hair to fainting.  So day three, I am a
little better and need to roast.  The new drugs are working okay on
the pain, but mostly I am bored from not being able to really move. And,
I am on another very strong pain killer, plus the other meds that make me
feel  kind of ill.  Such is life, we have our bad
days.
I decide to roast outside because in the shade the temperature is about
the same in the house on this glorious day. I still have double vision
and a lot of trouble focusing - I have been typing 15 minutes to get this
far, so my brain is still messed up, that drug better really
work.
I am going for a FC roast, though a City + would be good to, according
what I have read on this bean.  Just as I get to my profile (see
below) and start the roast, two lawn mowers start up.  Now, my mind
is overwhelmed with sounds.  I am doing my best to listen for the
1st crack.  Then the machine has a slight vibration noise to it,
which I have never noticed because I have the exhaust hose on the top and
am holding it.  So, senses it is, but I can barely hear.
I hear the first crack at 5:16 into the roast, a bit early for this
profile and what I expected, but cool, the beans look and smell right
on.  Then I hear what I think is the beginning of the second crack
over the noise of the lawn mowers and the machine.  I stop the
roast, it goes through its cooling cycle, I take out the beans and
continue cooling them in a colander with a wooden spoon.  I do the
bean crunch, not bad.  I can actually taste a touch of tobacco, I
mean barely.  Could be my messed up mind, but I believe it is
there.  I give a bean to my partner, who doesn't like coffee, but
will do a bean crunch for me, I don't tell him what I tasted, just let
him, he tastes "coffee," but then says and "something like
at my grandfather's old farm, the tobacco after drying."
Hey, I might have hit it or ruined it, will know later.  Right now,
going out and trying for City+ this time to see if I can do it. 
Wish me luck.
My Profile Six: 
340f for 2:15
395f for 3:15
450: for 2:30
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2) From: Stephen Carey
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I am answering my own post, how odd.  I think I know why the roast 
went to FC so fast.  When I am roasting indoors, I have the dryer 
exhaust hose on the IR2 and connected tight to the exhaust fan in the 
ceiling.  It sucks up the hot air.  When I have the temperature wire 
in the stash the roast is almost exactly what the machine's reading 
says it to be.  This time, outside, I don't have that air pull, so on 
the next roast I let the lid just hover on the machine, as I learned 
to do here.  I took it to a true City+.  The crunch test was very 
good, sorry I promised this roast to my neighbor.  You know what, she 
doesn't have a grinder, so I need to grind her coffee, therefor, she 
can have the first roast.  It will be better than the canned she is 
using.  She drinks about a pot in the morning, so the 5.5 ounces I 
give her will go fast and should hold up, either way, I am keeping 
the better of the roasts.  I guess that is okay, since I believe they 
are both good, but I was really looking for the City+, even if the 
writings on this bean say FC is very good.  Now for the last roast of 
the day.  I need to clean up the machine, let it cool a bit more and 
finish this pound, which means a smaller amount of beans, so I need 
to watch the roast very carefully, maybe change the profile.
Stephen 
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I am answering my own post, how odd.  I think I know
why the roast went to FC so fast.  When I am roasting indoors, I
have the dryer exhaust hose on the IR2 and connected tight to the exhaust
fan in the ceiling.  It sucks up the hot air.  When I have the
temperature wire in the stash the roast is almost exactly what the
machine's reading says it to be.  This time, outside, I don't have
that air pull, so on the next roast I let the lid just hover on the
machine, as I learned to do here.  I took it to a true City+. 
The crunch test was very good, sorry I promised this roast to my
neighbor.  You know what, she doesn't have a grinder, so I need to
grind her coffee, therefor, she can have the first roast.  It will
be better than the canned she is using.  She drinks about a pot in
the morning, so the 5.5 ounces I give her will go fast and should hold
up, either way, I am keeping the better of the roasts.  I guess that
is okay, since I believe they are both good, but I was really looking for
the City+, even if the writings on this bean say FC is very good. 
Now for the last roast of the day.  I need to clean up the machine,
let it cool a bit more and finish this pound, which means a smaller
amount of beans, so I need to watch the roast very carefully, maybe
change the profile.  
Stephen
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3) From: Larry Johnson
Which bean are you roasting? I ask because I've never tasted tobacco in any
of my roasts. Of course, my taste may not be sensitive enough to pick it up,
or maybe I just never roasted a bean with that characteristic.
On 9/1/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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Larry J

4) From: Stephen Carey
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Larry, I was roasting the Columbia Cup of Excellence El Caucho.  It 
is light and, yet, distinct.  But, it can, I think, get lost in the 
other bean flavors.  Now, the test will be when I brew it.  A number 
of times I have done the bean crunch after a roast and tasted some 
things that didn't seem to show up in the brew - which could be the 
brew or the chemical reactions that keep occurring in the bean during its rest.
Have you tried that bean?  I can't wait to get up in the morning and 
brew some.  It won't have had 24 hours, but close and by afternoon 
and the next day, well, I just have this feeling that I did well.  I 
will let you know for who knows, it may just be a bust when 
brewed.  I am kind of confident about this one, especially about the 
second of the day, which I know hit City+.  The first is just at 
FC.  The third is at C+, but is a gift roast.  It has the shot of 
being a bit closer to City because the roast was with fewer beans and 
I was worried about going too far and may have cut it way short.  I 
still think they will like it compared to their canned coffee.
Stephen
At 10:29 PM 9/1/2007, you wrote:
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Larry, I was roasting the Columbia Cup of Excellence El
Caucho.  It is light and, yet, distinct.  But, it can, I think,
get lost in the other bean flavors.  Now, the test will be when I
brew it.  A number of times I have done the bean crunch after a
roast and tasted some things that didn't seem to show up in the brew -
which could be the brew or the chemical reactions that keep occurring in
the bean during its rest.
Have you tried that bean?  I can't wait to get up in the morning and
brew some.  It won't have had 24 hours, but close and by afternoon
and the next day, well, I just have this feeling that I did well.  I
will let you know for who knows, it may just be a bust when brewed. 
I am kind of confident about this one, especially about the second of the
day, which I know hit City+.  The first is just at FC.  The
third is at C+, but is a gift roast.  It has the shot of being a bit
closer to City because the roast was with fewer beans and I was worried
about going too far and may have cut it way short.  I still think
they will like it compared to their canned coffee.
Stephen
At 10:29 PM 9/1/2007, you wrote:
Which bean are you roasting? I
ask because I've never tasted tobacco in any of my roasts. Of course, my
taste may not be sensitive enough to pick it up, or
maybe I just never roasted a bean with that characteristic.
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5) From: Larry Johnson
No, I've never had that bean, Stephen. I'd be interested in how it comes
out, though.
BTW, I really do enjoy your posts. I think you're one of the few who really
do *get it*, as far as this list is concerned. You give at least as much as
you get with your excellent descriptions of your experiences and your
personality (at least that little bit that we get to see here) is always
generous and non-confrontational. I think my posts would be better if I kept
yours in mind when I'm writing.
Roast on, brother, roast on; and keep posting as well.
On 9/1/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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Larry J

6) From: Stephen Carey
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Larry,
Well, I tried the City+ roast of the three I did (two City+, one 
FC).  It only had about 18 hours of rest, but wow, what a unique 
flavor, at least for me.  The bean is as Tom describes it.  I 
honestly am not trying to brag, but I think I hit is almost right 
on.  I gifted one of the City+, and gave enough of the other 
City+  for a brew to a friend with a wonderful palate.  So, he and 
his wife will be honest in their assessment of the roast.  But, the 
part that still makes me smile is how much people appreciate the gift 
of roasted beans.  I have never had anything to really make myself 
and give as a gift.  I do now, that is cool.
So, back to the bean: it starts out very soft, it has a coffee 
flavor, what we think of when we say coffee, as its first taste, 
then, just as Tom described there comes to the tongue this flavor of 
fresh tobacco.  I don't know how Tom figure out what the flavor 
was.  I think I would be guessing at what it was, but with knowing 
his description I could identify it.  I am not sure it is for 
everyone, for the taste is a bit different, but very smooth.  Now, I 
may not have been right on with the roast and the tobacco flavor may 
be too much.  Tomorrow morning I am trying the FC to see how that 
is.  Also, I will get word from the people I gave some to.
My neighbor was almost in tears, she thought it was such an unusual 
gift and a very special one.  Man, did I feel good.  I am pretty 
intense in what I do for work and dealing with the cancer.  I think 
sometimes I let those issues take over and I don't put much stock in 
what I give to someone as a gift.  Now, I really care and seeing 
their faces is so cool.
I will let you know how the FC roast of the Columbia Cup of 
Excellence turns out.  I would strongly suggest to add it anyone's 
stash while it is still in stock at SM's.
All the best,
Stephen
At 09:43 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:
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Larry,
Well, I tried the City+ roast of the three I did (two City+, one
FC).  It only had about 18 hours of rest, but wow, what a unique
flavor, at least for me.  The bean is as Tom describes it.  I
honestly am not trying to brag, but I think I hit is almost right
on.  I gifted one of the City+, and gave enough of the other
City+  for a brew to a friend with a wonderful palate.  So, he
and his wife will be honest in their assessment of the roast.  But,
the part that still makes me smile is how much people appreciate the gift
of roasted beans.  I have never had anything to really make myself
and give as a gift.  I do now, that is cool.
So, back to the bean: it starts out very soft, it has a coffee flavor,
what we think of when we say coffee, as its first taste, then, just as
Tom described there comes to the tongue this flavor of fresh
tobacco.  I don't know how Tom figure out what the flavor was. 
I think I would be guessing at what it was, but with knowing his
description I could identify it.  I am not sure it is for everyone,
for the taste is a bit different, but very smooth.  Now, I may not
have been right on with the roast and the tobacco flavor may be too
much.  Tomorrow morning I am trying the FC to see how that is. 
Also, I will get word from the people I gave some to.  
My neighbor was almost in tears, she thought it was such an unusual gift
and a very special one.  Man, did I feel good.  I am pretty
intense in what I do for work and dealing with the cancer.  I think
sometimes I let those issues take over and I don't put much stock in what
I give to someone as a gift.  Now, I really care and seeing their
faces is so cool.  
I will let you know how the FC roast of the Columbia Cup of Excellence
turns out.  I would strongly suggest to add it anyone's stash while
it is still in stock at SM's.
All the best,
Stephen
At 09:43 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:
No, I've never had that bean,
Stephen. I'd be interested in how it comes out, though.
BTW, I really do enjoy your posts. I think you're one of the few who
really do *get it*, as far as this list is concerned. You give at least
as much as you get with your excellent descriptions of your experiences
and your personality (at least that little bit that we get to see here)
is always generous and non-confrontational. I think my posts would be
better if I kept yours in mind when I'm writing. 
Roast on, brother, roast on; and keep posting as well.
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Larry J 
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7) From: Cookie (Ann-Marie)
Stephen, good luck with the Lyrica. My sister was on it for Reflex Sympathe=
tic Dystrophy. It didn't help her, and she ended up having the spinal injec=
tions of whatever, which really did work. Lyrica can be a blessing when it =
does what it needs to, I hope you can tolerate it, and that it works for yo=
u.
  Cookie
 
 http://cookiestitches.blogspot.com-----=
 Original Message ----
From: Stephen Carey 
To:=
 homeroast
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 2:17:5=
6 PM
Subject: +outside roast - IR2- and felt stoned
This was a weird=
 roast for me - Columbia Cup of Excellence - El Caucho.
To be fair I s=
tarted a new med for pain, called Lyrica .  Wow, not easy to get used to, a=
ll of the side effects, from double vision to loss of hair to fainting.  So=
 day three, I am a little better and need to roast.  The new drugs are work=
ing okay on the pain, but mostly I am bored from not being able to really m=
ove. And, I am on another very strong pain killer, plus the other meds that=
 make me feel  kind of ill.  Such is life, we have our bad days.
I dec=
ide to roast outside because in the shade the temperature is about the same=
 in the house on this glorious day. I still have double vision and a lot of=
 trouble focusing - I have been typing 15 minutes to get this far, so my br=
ain is still messed up, that drug better really work.
I am going for a=
 FC roast, though a City + would be good to, according what I have read on =
this bean.  Just as I get to my profile (see below) and start the roast, tw=
o lawn mowers start up.  Now, my mind is overwhelmed with sounds.  I am doi=
ng my best to listen for the 1st crack.  Then the machine has a slight vibr=
ation noise to it, which I have never noticed because I have the exhaust ho=
se on the top and am holding it.  So, senses it is, but I can barely hear.=
I hear the first crack at 5:16 into the roast, a bit early for this p=
rofile and what I expected, but cool, the beans look and smell right on.  T=
hen I hear what I think is the beginning of the second crack over the noise=
 of the lawn mowers and the machine.  I stop the roast, it goes through its=
 cooling cycle, I take out the beans and continue cooling them in a colande=
r with a wooden spoon.  I do the bean crunch, not bad.  I can actually tast=
e a touch of tobacco, I mean barely.  Could be my messed up mind, but I bel=
ieve it is there.  I give a bean to my partner, who doesn't like coffee, bu=
t will do a bean crunch for me, I don't tell him what I tasted, just let hi=
m, he tastes "coffee," but then says and "something like at my grandfather'=
s old farm, the tobacco after drying."
Hey, I might have hit it or rui=
ned it, will know later.  Right now, going out and trying for City+ this ti=
me to see if I can do it.  Wish me luck.
My Profile Six: 
340f for 2=
:15
395f for 3:15
450: for 2:30

8) From: Cookie (Ann-Marie)
While I have never actually tasted tobacco in my home roast, I finally coul=
d smell it in the roasting of the last batch I did, I can't remember off ha=
nd what it was, though, because I was lazy, and didn't write it down. It wa=
s interesting, started as chocolate, went raisiny, and finished with a nice=
 pipe tobacco. The taste is blah, though. I didn't get the roasting right, =
I guess, for plain old coffee coffee, which is what we drink around here in=
 the morning. We do use good bottled water, but, unfortulately, we just use=
 a Kitchenaid drip coffee maker. DH won't use anything but a plain old elec=
tric drip. (Unless we are camping. Then he makes perkolated "camping coffee=
" over a fire.) 
     Too bad I can't remember what those beans were.  It=
 was from a sampler pack. I could see if they have any more of it, and I co=
uld play with it a bit. That's what happens when you don't write things dow=
n.
  Cookie, who just spilled soup all over her mouse.
 
 http://c=ookiestitches.blogspot.com
----- Original Message ----
From: L=
arry Johnson 
To: homeroast=
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:29:16 PM
Subject: Re: +outside roa=
st - IR2- and felt stoned
Which bean are you roasting? I ask because I=
've never tasted tobacco in any of my roasts. Of course, my taste may not b=
e sensitive enough to pick it up, or maybe I just never roasted a bean with=
 that characteristic. 
On 9/1/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
I am answering my own post, how odd.  I think I know why the=
 roast went to FC so fast.  When I am roasting indoors, I have the dryer ex=
haust hose on the IR2 and connected tight to the exhaust fan in the ceiling=
.  It sucks up the hot air.  When I have the temperature wire in the stash =
the roast is almost exactly what the machine's reading says it to be.  This=
 time, outside, I don't have that air pull, so on the next roast I let the =
lid just hover on the machine, as I learned to do here.  I took it to a tru=
e City+.  The crunch test was very good, sorry I promised this roast to my =
neighbor.  You know what, she doesn't have a grinder, so I need to grind he=
r coffee, therefor, she can have the first roast.  It will be better than t=
he canned she is using.  She drinks about a pot in the morning, so the 5.5 =
ounces I give her will go fast and should hold up, either way, I am keeping=
 the better of the roasts.  I guess that is okay, since I believe they are =
both
 good, but I was really looking for the City+, even if the writings on this=
 bean say FC is very good.  Now for the last roast of the day.  I need to c=
lean up the machine, let it cool a bit more and finish this pound, which me=
ans a smaller amount of beans, so I need to watch the roast very carefully,=
 maybe change the profile.  
Stephen
-- 
Larry J

9) From: Rich
Boiling the mouse in soup is mean.....
--Original Message Text---
From: Cookie (Ann-Marie)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
While I have never actually tasted tobacco in my home roast, I finally could smell it in the roasting of 
the last batch I did, I can't remember off hand what it was, though, because I was lazy, and didn't 
write it down. It was interesting, started as chocolate, went raisiny, and finished with a nice pipe 
tobacco. The taste is blah, though. I didn't get the roasting right, I guess, for plain old coffee coffee, 
which is what we drink around here in the morning. We do use good bottled water, but, unfortulately, 
we just use a Kitchenaid drip coffee maker. DH won't use anything but a plain old electric drip. 
(Unless we are camping. Then he makes perkolated "camping coffee" over a fire.) 
     Too bad I can't remember what those beans were.  It was from a sampler pack. I could see if they 
have any more of it, and I could play with it a bit. That's what happens when you don't write things 
down.
  Cookie, who just spilled soup all over her mouse.http://cookiestitches.blogspot.com----- Original Message ----
From: Larry Johnson 
To: homeroast
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:29:16 PM
Subject: Re: +outside roast - IR2- and felt stoned
Which bean are you roasting? I ask because I've never tasted tobacco in any of my roasts. Of course, 
my taste may not be sensitive enough to pick it up, or maybe I just never roasted a bean with that characteristic.  
On 9/1/07, Stephen Carey  wrote: I am answering my own post, how odd.  I 
think I know why the roast went to FC so fast.  When I am roasting indoors, I have the dryer 
exhaust hose on the IR2 and connected tight to the exhaust fan in the ceiling.  It sucks up the 
hot air.  When I have the temperature wire in the stash the roast is almost exactly what the 
machine's reading says it to be.  This time, outside, I don't have that air pull, so on the next roast 
I let the lid just hover on the machine, as I learned to do here.  I took it to a true City+.  The 
crunch test was very good, sorry I promised this roast to my neighbor.  You know what, she 
doesn't have a grinder, so I need to grind her coffee, therefor, she can have the first roast.  It will 
be better than the canned she is using.  She drinks about a pot in the morning, so the 5.5 
ounces I give her will go fast and should hold up, either way, I am keeping the better of the 
roasts.  I guess that is okay, since I believe they are both good, but I was really looking for the 
City+, even if the writings on this bean say FC is very good.  Now for the last roast of the day.  I 
need to clean up the machine, let it cool a bit more and finish this pound, which means a smaller 
amount of beans, so I need to watch the roast very carefully, maybe change the profile.  
Stephen 
-- 
Larry J

10) From: Cookie (Ann-Marie)
Well, like I said, I don't have a grill right now.
  EWWWWWWW. Forget I s=
aid that.
Cookie, who is going to go turn off all the lights and hide fro=
m the animal rights people.
 
 http://cookiestitches.blogspot.com=
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich =
To: "homeroast" =
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:34:02 PM
Subject: Re: +outside roa=
st - IR2- and felt stoned
Boiling the mouse in soup is mean.....
=
--Original Message Text---
From: Cookie (Ann-Marie)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 20=
07 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
While I have never actually tasted tobacco =
in my home roast, I finally could smell it in the roasting of the last batc=
h I did, I can't remember off hand what it was, though, because I was lazy,=
 and didn't write it down. It was interesting, started as chocolate, went r=
aisiny, and finished with a nice pipe tobacco. The taste is blah, though. I=
 didn't get the roasting right, I guess, for plain old coffee coffee, which=
 is what we drink around here in the morning. We do use good bottled water,=
 but, unfortulately, we just use a Kitchenaid drip coffee maker. DH won't u=
se anything but a plain old electric drip. (Unless we are camping. Then he =
makes perkolated "camping coffee" over a fire.) 
Too bad I can't remember=
 what those beans were. It was from a sampler pack. I could see if they hav=
e any more of it, and I could play with it a bit. That's what happens when =
you don't write things down.
Cookie, who just spilled soup all over her m=
ouse.http://cookiestitches.blogspot.com----- Original Mes=
sage ----
From: Larry Johnson 
To: homeroast=
s.sweetmarias.com
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:29:16 PM
Subject:=
 Re: +outside roast - IR2- and felt stoned
Which bean are you roasting=
? I ask because I've never tasted tobacco in any of my roasts. Of course, m=
y taste may not be sensitive enough to pick it up, or maybe I just never ro=
asted a bean with that characteristic. 
On 9/1/07, Stephen Carey  wrote: I am answering my own post, how odd. I think I k=
now why the roast went to FC so fast. When I am roasting indoors, I have th=
e dryer exhaust hose on the IR2 and connected tight to the exhaust fan in t=
he ceiling. It sucks up the hot air. When I have the temperature wire in th=
e stash the roast is almost exactly what the machine's reading says it to b=
e. This time, outside, I don't have that air pull, so on the next roast I l=
et the lid just hover on the machine, as I learned to do here. I took it to=
 a true City+. The crunch test was very good, sorry I promised this roast t=
o my neighbor. You know what, she doesn't have a grinder, so I need to grin=
d her coffee, therefor, she can have the first roast. It will be better tha=
n the canned she is using. She drinks about a pot in the morning, so the 5.=
5 ounces I give her w ill go fast and should hold up, either way, I am keep=
ing the better of the roasts. I guess
 that is okay, since I believe they are both good, but I was really looking=
 for the City+, even if the writings on this bean say FC is very good. Now =
for the last roast of the day. I need to clean up the machine, let it cool =
a bit more and finish this pound, which means a smaller amount of beans, so=
 I need to watch the roast very carefully, maybe change the profile. 
=
Stephen 
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