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Topic: Turkish Zass (9 msgs / 249 lines)
1) From: Aaron
My Turkish Zass arrived today, and well.... wow.
At first I thought it was going to be a bit longer than it actually was, 
(ok no dick jokes now), but it is not.  I for some reason thought i seen 
somewhere that it comes apart in 3 pieces and the handle will fit into 
the thing for storage, but not with this unit.  It comes apart ok but 
the handle won't fit into the barrell for storage.   This is actually a 
good thing, I wanted it mainly for my travel pack and having a smaller 
unit will definately help it fit into tighter places much easier, like a 
desk drawer or small carry on or whatever.
This thing is built like a tank it looks like, which is also a good 
thing, some mornings I am a bit clumbsy because im still kind of 'hung 
over' from the drugs I had to take the night before and if I drop this 
one, it doesn't look like it's going to be much if any at all, worse for 
the trip for it.
The adjustment seems really sensitive on it though, but then that's 
maybe because it's brand new and I havent figured out yet how to work it 
all the way and it's not really broken in yet.   With this, I have 
ground coffee grounds from a consistancy of talcum powder almost, to a 
nice grind for a drip brew.  I feel this one has the full range to use 
for whatever style you want.  (But will admit if you are grinding really 
fine, it's gonna take a little while).
I think im falling in love and have a new 'favorite coffee toy'
aaron who is off to make a few cups of coffee with my new play thingie.

2) From: Steven Van Dyke
Got mine the other day as well - nice!
I've been using the cheap $20 'travel grinders' you can find various 
places as my travel grinders.  When you grind with those the noise / 
feel is a harsh, uneven thing - you can tell the beans are being 
smashed into smaller pieces.
With the Zass Turkish it's a smooth, clean feeling as the beans are 
*sliced* into smaller bits.  I think that's the key to the cleaner 
grind.   While the cheap grinder does a fair job, it does it by 
breaking the beans up which inevitably creates some dust.  The Zass 
burrs are sharp and precise enough to slice the beans which pretty 
much eliminates dust.  The fact that the burrs aren't just 'clashing' 
lets you set them closer and get powder if that's what you want.
The only problem with upgrading to the Zass Turkish in my 'coffee 
world' case (the customized suitcase I take when I travel that has 
all of my coffee gear in it) is that now I'm going to want to upgrade 
my grinder at work, the 'safety' grinder at home (in case power goes 
off), etc..
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3) From: Angelo
I have 2 Turkish grinders, a Zass and a generic one I bought in a 
mid-eastern store, and both of them store the handle in the TOP 
(grinding) chamber. Just take off the top, bend the handle and put it 
in, bend first. It might take a little wiggling around until you get 
it, but it will fit.
I believe the bottom chamber is used for carrying some beans...
Angelo
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee
That's a negative on the Zass' Turkish grinder handle fitting it the Top OR
the Bottom of the body. The Zass' handle is solid one piece, unjointed and
therefore does not bend for storage. Current picture on SM agrees with my
'01 purchased Zass' Turkish.
FWIW I would NOT recommend the Zass' Turkish for any daily use. It has
smaller burrs than the other models and hence takes longer to grind. Coarse
grinding a full bean load for 30oz press pot takes longer to grind than
water to heat in Bodum Ibis...
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5) From: Aaron
Mike is correct, the handle does not fold over, and is too long to fit 
into the body with the current mounting of the burr set.  Also correct 
that a full shot load would probably take a bit to grind if you were 
doing enough for several cups and grinding pretty fine.   I generally 
do10 to 11 grams at a shot so it takes only a minute to grind, giving my 
bodum santos electric vac pot plenty of time to heat up the two to 4 
cups of water I use it to heat.  The bodum for a water heater, very fast 
and easy.
so far the coffee tastes great out of it but ive been running stupidly 
today trying to play catch up on two weeks worth of errands I have been 
neglecting.so really have not sat down and really 'enjoyed' what is 
coming out of my machine.... maybe tonight with that special bottle of 
whiskey I have been saving for a special occasion....
aaron

6) From: Sandy Andina
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The thing I noticed with the Zass vs. the Traveller II is that though  
the latter's handle stores in the chamber, it grinds more slowly and  
produces immense amounts of static (requiring me to either line the  
hopper with foil or open it up afterwards over a towel or tissue so  
as not to drive hotel chambermaids crazy). Have not tried it for  
espresso yet, as I don't travel with an espresso machine.
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The thing I noticed with the Zass vs. the Traveller II is that though =
the latter's handle stores in the chamber, it grinds more slowly and =
produces immense amounts of static (requiring me to either line the =
hopper with foil or open it up afterwards over a towel or tissue so as =
not to drive hotel chambermaids crazy). Have not tried it for espresso =
yet, as I don't travel with an espresso machine.
On Sep 8, =
2007, at 8:12 AM, Steven Van Dyke wrote:
Got mine the other day as well - nice! I've been = using the cheap $20 'travel grinders' you can find various places as my = travel grinders.  When you grind with those the noise / feel is a = harsh, uneven thing - you can tell the beans are being smashed into = smaller pieces. With the Zass Turkish it's a smooth, clean = feeling as the beans are *sliced* into smaller bits.  I think that's = the key to the cleaner grind.   While the cheap grinder does a fair = job, it does it by breaking the beans up which inevitably creates some = dust.  The Zass burrs are sharp and precise enough to slice the beans = which pretty much eliminates dust.  The fact that the burrs aren't = just 'clashing' lets you set them closer and get powder if that's what = you want. The only problem with upgrading to the Zass Turkish in = my 'coffee world' case (the customized suitcase I take when I travel = that has all of my coffee gear in it) is that now I'm going to want to = upgrade my grinder at work, the 'safety' grinder at home (in case power = goes off), etc.. Sandywww.sass-music.com
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7) From: Angelo
Hmmm... a dilemma. Do I believe Mike or my lyin' eyes...? There is a 
possibility that the handle on mine is not the original handle, but 
it certainly bends and fits...
A
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8) From: Aaron
Angelo from what I think is right, there are two types of turkish zass 
mills.   One was longer and deeper, and the handle folded over and you 
could store it in the body of the thing for travel.
This one I have, is probably another model and it's shorter, and the 
handle is NOT a foldover, its pretty much solid brass with a turn swivel 
on the top part of the handle but not foldable.  It wont fold and is too 
long to fit in the body of the grinder.
with that yes yours is mostlikely a different model than ours, but being 
a zass, still just as good.
Mike and Brett are more knowledgeable on grinders than I am, perhaps one 
of them can confirm this.
aaron

9) From: Steven Van Dyke
Forgot about the static issue with the 'Traveler' - that's because I 
learned to *always* 'huff' into the grinds chamber first.
Just take it off and do that same kind of 'huff' exhale you do to 
clean your glasses and you'll raise the humidity in it enough to help 
keep the static down.
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