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Topic: OT - have I become stuck-up (19 msgs / 842 lines)
1) From: Stephen Carey
So, I went to see a friend downtown today.  The weather was what one 
dreams of a mid-Atlantic summer late summer day should be.  You know, 
mid-70's, low humidity, slight breeze, lots of sun, but a few pretty 
clouds drifting in the summer sky.
I planned my route to avoid any protests in the city - a normal thing 
when living in or around DC - don't want to get caught in closed 
roads or parades or angry people.  I got to my friend's, I handed 
over some Harar Horse, my second roast of it.  I still haven't tasted 
my first roast, but I am having faith, though this roast was not an 
easy one to pin down, at least for me.
We then went to a little eatery, where we were going to have a late 
breakfast.  OH NOW, what to do.  The nice waitress poured my 
coffee.  I haven't had coffee that I haven't roasted since I began 
only two months ago, to be honest a bit less.  I looked outside 
wondering about this dilemma and saw my favorite coffee shop across 
the street.  I had five minutes until my breakfast would be ready, do 
I do it?  Is it totally snobbery and rude?  Well, I had to drink it, 
so I was going for it.  I told my friend I would be right back, 
across the street I went, got two fresh coffees to  go, the beans 
roasted only 48 hours or so ago.  And some roasting going on, as the 
machine ran and the beans darkened and the smell filled the store.  I 
ran back and gave my friend one and sipped on mine, oh what flavor, 
very good, a Costa Rican (I saw the sign, I couldn't tell from taste 
- YET).  My friend did not think it rude since I got him one, had I 
only gotten one for myself different story.
The best part, the waitress brings our food, sees our cups of coffee, 
takes the coffee mugs she had bought, said, "good choice, these will 
be off of the bill."  Obviously, I was not the first to do such a 
crude thing.  I am somewhat embarrassed, but if I was drinking it, 
and it wasn't hurting anyone for I would have paid for the coffee she 
brought me, and I  tipped her on the coffee, well it all seems 
fine.  I just have a nagging feeling that I went to far.  Sometime I 
wish my conscience would just shut up.  So, did I go to far.?  I 
guess only I know that.

2) From: Stephen Carey
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So, I went to see a friend downtown today.  The weather was what one 
dreams of a mid-Atlantic summer late summer day should be.  You know, 
mid-70's, low humidity, slight breeze, lots of sun, but a few pretty 
clouds drifting in the summer sky.
I planned my route to avoid any protests in the city - a normal thing 
when living in or around DC - don't want to get caught in closed 
roads or parades or angry people.  I got to my friend's, I handed 
over some Harar Horse, my second roast of it.  I still haven't tasted 
my first roast, but I am having faith, though this roast was not an 
easy one to pin down, at least for me.
We then went to a little eatery, where we were going to have a late 
breakfast.  OH NOW, what to do.  The nice waitress poured my 
coffee.  I haven't had coffee that I haven't roasted since I began 
only two months ago, to be honest a bit less.  I looked outside 
wondering about this dilemma and saw my favorite coffee shop across 
the street.  I had five minutes until my breakfast would be ready, do 
I do it?  Is it totally snobbery and rude?  Well, I had to drink it, 
so I was going for it.  I told my friend I would be right back, 
across the street I went, got two fresh coffees to  go, the beans 
roasted only 48 hours or so ago.  And some roasting going on, as the 
machine ran and the beans darkened and the smell filled the store.  I 
ran back and gave my friend one and sipped on mine, oh what flavor, 
very good, a Costa Rican (I saw the sign, I couldn't tell from taste 
- YET).  My friend did not think it rude since I got him one, had I 
only gotten one for myself different story.
The best part, the waitress brings our food, sees our cups of coffee, 
takes the coffee mugs she had bought, said, "good choice, these will 
be off of the bill."  Obviously, I was not the first to do such a 
crude thing.  I am somewhat embarrassed, but if I was drinking it, 
and it wasn't hurting anyone for I would have paid for the coffee she 
brought me, and I  tipped her on the coffee, well it all seems 
fine.  I just have a nagging feeling that I went to far.  Sometime I 
wish my conscience would just shut up.  So, did I go to far.?  I 
guess only I know that. 
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So, I went to see a friend downtown today.  The weather
was what one dreams of a mid-Atlantic summer late summer day should
be.  You know, mid-70's, low humidity, slight breeze, lots of sun,
but a few pretty clouds drifting in the summer sky.
I planned my route to avoid any protests in the city - a normal thing
when living in or around DC - don't want to get caught in closed roads or
parades or angry people.  I got to my friend's, I handed over some
Harar Horse, my second roast of it.  I still haven't tasted my first
roast, but I am having faith, though this roast was not an easy one to
pin down, at least for me.
We then went to a little eatery, where we were going to have a late
breakfast.  OH NOW, what to do.  The nice waitress poured my
coffee.  I haven't had coffee that I haven't roasted since I began
only two months ago, to be honest a bit less.  I looked outside
wondering about this dilemma and saw my favorite coffee shop across the
street.  I had five minutes until my breakfast would be ready, do I
do it?  Is it totally snobbery and rude?  Well, I had to drink
it, so I was going for it.  I told my friend I would be right back,
across the street I went, got two fresh coffees to  go, the beans
roasted only 48 hours or so ago.  And some roasting going on, as the
machine ran and the beans darkened and the smell filled the store. 
I ran back and gave my friend one and sipped on mine, oh what flavor,
very good, a Costa Rican (I saw the sign, I couldn't tell from taste -
YET).  My friend did not think it rude since I got him one, had I
only gotten one for myself different story.
The best part, the waitress brings our food, sees our cups of coffee,
takes the coffee mugs she had bought, said, "good choice, these will
be off of the bill."  Obviously, I was not the first to do such
a crude thing.  I am somewhat embarrassed, but if I was drinking it,
and it wasn't hurting anyone for I would have paid for the coffee she
brought me, and I  tipped her on the coffee, well it all seems
fine.  I just have a nagging feeling that I went to far. 
Sometime I wish my conscience would just shut up.  So, did I go to
far.?  I guess only I know that.
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3) From: Steven Sobel
Stephen,
No, you didn't go too far.  Since I have started home roasting, I will not
drink any coffee other than my own.  Snobbish? No, I don't think so. I have
learned (or more accurately am learning) how coffee should taste.  I refuse
to lower my standards.  When we go out, I will either drink water or tea.
Also, if you every look at most restaurant coffee, it is old/stale. I don't
even want to guess the last time they had cleaned their carafe.
Steve
On 9/15/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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4) From: Sean Cary
I drink diet coke or a Rip It energy drink when I can't make the coffee...
Mind blowing - but we have a place called Green Beans on Fallujah -
all over Iraq in fact (gotta have some comforts I guess...but I still
think we are WAY to comfortable here...but I digress) and I had a
double coffee when I was over on Baghdad a few weeks back...they grind
fresh beans and there is a decent turnover.  It wasn't too bad.
Usually I drink foo foo crap when I go there, having a Vanilla Chai
frappe - which as a decent caffeine hit - but I feel like such an
idiot with this when I have them...  I mean, I am a Marine dammit.
:-)
I refuse to drink the silver urn at the chow hall or the coffee mess
in my office.  I get funny looks when I am cranking my zass - and it
is a PIA to make and clean...but that is my one comfort, so I tolerate
the remarks.  I will have a diet coke before I will drink coffee out -
pretty normal I would bet for most on this list.
Sean
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5) From: Lynne Biziewski
Stephen -
No way did you go too far! Once more, apparently others have done the same -
a smart manager or owner would take notice and start buying their coffee
from the place across the street.
This is a business - unfortunately I keep noticing that the obvious just
isn't noticed by many in this
business - I could go on & on what I've observed just locally. I just want
to give some people a smack on their heads - wake up people, or your
business will go down the tube (along with that bad coffee!)
Lynne
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6) From: Stephen Carey
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Lynn, that is brilliant.  I know the owner of the coffee shop.  I 
will ask him if he has ever been approached.  It could be the main 
coffee or a second type and it would sell.
He may not want to brew that much coffee, but who knows, he may just 
want to.  Or maybe he tried and this place said no.
Stephen
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Lynn, that is brilliant.  I know the owner of the
coffee shop.  I will ask him if he has ever been approached. 
It could be the main coffee or a second type and it would sell.
He may not want to brew that much coffee, but who knows, he may just want
to.  Or maybe he tried and this place said no.
Stephen
At 09:06 AM 9/18/2007, you wrote:
Stephen -
No way did you go too far! Once more, apparently others have done the
same - a smart manager or owner would take notice and start buying their
coffee from the place across the street. 
This is a business - unfortunately I keep noticing that the obvious just
isn't noticed by many in this 
business - I could go on & on what I've observed just locally. I just
want to give some people a smack on their heads - wake up people, or your
business will go down the tube (along with that bad coffee!)
Lynne
On 9/18/07, Stephen Carey
<steve
> wrote:
So, I went to see a friend downtown today.  The weather was what
one dreams of a mid-Atlantic summer late summer day should be.  You
know, mid-70's, low humidity, slight breeze, lots of sun, but a few
pretty clouds drifting in the summer sky.
I planned my route to avoid any protests in the city - a normal thing
when living in or around DC - don't want to get caught in closed roads or
parades or angry people.  I got to my friend's, I handed over some
Harar Horse, my second roast of it.  I still haven't tasted my first
roast, but I am having faith, though this roast was not an easy one to
pin down, at least for me.
We then went to a little eatery, where we were going to have a late
breakfast.  OH NOW, what to do.  The nice waitress poured my
coffee.  I haven't had coffee that I haven't roasted since I began
only two months ago, to be honest a bit less.  I looked outside
wondering about this dilemma and saw my favorite coffee shop across the
street.  I had five minutes until my breakfast would be ready, do I
do it?  Is it totally snobbery and rude?  Well, I had to drink
it, so I was going for it.  I told my friend I would be right back,
across the street I went, got two fresh coffees to  go, the beans
roasted only 48 hours or so ago.  And some roasting going on, as the
machine ran and the beans darkened and the smell filled the store. 
I ran back and gave my friend one and sipped on mine, oh what flavor,
very good, a Costa Rican (I saw the sign, I couldn't tell from taste -
YET).  My friend did not think it rude since I got him one, had I
only gotten one for myself different story.
The best part, the waitress brings our food, sees our cups of coffee,
takes the coffee mugs she had bought, said, "good choice, these will
be off of the bill."  Obviously, I was not the first to do such
a crude thing.  I am somewhat embarrassed, but if I was drinking it,
and it wasn't hurting anyone for I would have paid for the coffee she
brought me, and I  tipped her on the coffee, well it all seems
fine.  I just have a nagging feeling that I went to far. 
Sometime I wish my conscience would just shut up.  So, did I go to
far.?  I guess only I know that.
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7) From: Les
Stephen,
Mike McKoffee and I have been known to bring a small French Press to dinner
with vacuum packed single serving Homeroast and ask for boiling hot water
and brewed our own at the table.  Yes we are both coffee snobs!    So, I
must say you did the right thing!
Les
On 9/18/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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8) From: Barry Luterman
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I did the same on a cruise to Mexico and again on a cruise to Alaska. =
Both cruises boasted a 4 star restaurant.

9) From: Jim Gundlach
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I sometimes tote a basic coffee making setup with me and when the  
wait person asks me if I want coffee, I will ask when were the beans  
roasted.  When they  they don't know, I will ask for hot water and  
pull out the Aeropress and Zass.
       pecan jim
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I sometimes tote a basic coffee =
making setup with me and when the wait person asks me if I want coffee, =
I will ask when were the beans roasted.  When they  they don't know, =
I will ask for hot water and pull out the Aeropress and Zass.   =
     pecan jim
On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Barry =
Luterman wrote:
I did the same on a = cruise to Mexico and again on a cruise to Alaska. Both cruises boasted a = 4 star restaurant.----- Original = Message -----From: To: homeroastSent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:20 AMSubject: Re: +OT - have I become = stuck-up Stephen,Mike = McKoffee and I have been known to bring a small French Press to dinner = with vacuum packed single serving Homeroast and ask for boiling hot = water and brewed our own at the table.  Yes we are both coffee = snobs!    So, I must say you did the right = thing!Les  On = 9/18/07, Stephen Carey <steve> = wrote:Lynn, that is brilliant.  I know the owner of the coffee = shop.  I will ask him if he has ever been approached.  It could be = the main coffee or a second type and it would sell. He may not = want to brew that much coffee, but who knows, he may just want to.  Or = maybe he tried and this place said no.  Stephen At 09:06 AM 9/18/2007, you = wrote: Stephen -

No way did = you go too far! Once more, apparently others have done the same - a = smart manager or owner would take notice and start buying their coffee = from the place across the street.

This is a = business - unfortunately I keep noticing that the obvious just isn't = noticed by many in this

Lynne


On = 9/18/07, Stephen Carey = <> wrote: So, I went to see a = friend downtown today.  The weather was what one dreams of a = mid-Atlantic summer late summer day should be.  You know, mid-70's, = low humidity, slight breeze, lots of sun, but a few pretty clouds = drifting in the summer sky.  I planned my = route to avoid any protests in the city - a normal thing when living in = or around DC - don't want to get caught in closed roads or parades or = angry people.  I got to my friend's, I handed over some Harar Horse, = my second roast of it.  I still haven't tasted my first roast, but I = am having faith, though this roast was not an easy one to pin down, at = least for me.  We then went = to a little eatery, where we were going to have a late breakfast.  OH = NOW, what to do.  The nice waitress poured my coffee.  I haven't had = coffee that I haven't roasted since I began only two months ago, to be = honest a bit less.  I looked outside wondering about this dilemma and = saw my favorite coffee shop across the street.  I had five minutes = until my breakfast would be ready, do I do it?  Is it totally snobbery = and rude?  Well, I had to drink it, so I was going for it.  I told = my friend I would be right back, across the street I went, got two fresh = coffees to  go, the beans roasted only 48 hours or so ago.  And some = roasting going on, as the machine ran and the beans darkened and the = smell filled the store.  I ran back and gave my friend one and sipped = on mine, oh what flavor, very good, a Costa Rican (I saw the sign, I = couldn't tell from taste - YET).  My friend did not think it rude = since I got him one, had I only gotten one for myself different = story.  The= best part, the waitress brings our food, sees our cups of coffee, takes = the coffee mugs she had bought, said, "good choice, these will be off of = the bill."  Obviously, I was not the first to do such a crude thing.  = I am somewhat embarrassed, but if I was drinking it, and it wasn't = hurting anyone for I would have paid for the coffee she brought me, and = I  tipped her on the coffee, well it all seems fine.  I just have a = nagging feeling that I went to far.  Sometime I wish my conscience = would just shut up.  So, did I go to far.?  I guess only I know = that.  <= /DIV>
= --Apple-Mail-4--780119339--

10) From: Bonnie Polkinghorn
There is a restaurant down in the San Jose, CA area - Cupertino, I think,
 that has a cute little coffee place next door.  The restaurant does sell
coffee, tea, espresso drinks, smoothies.   The restaurant put up signs
prohibiting bringing in beverages from "outside" - due to health code
reasons.  Talk about being stuck up!
Bonnie P.
Santa Rosa, CA

11) From: Lynne Biziewski
Well, on one hand - they are in a business to make money, and that would be
a competitor's product. On the
other hand - a really good business would have such a good product they'd
have people carrying their drinks
over to other businesses!
Lynne
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12) From: Joseph Robertson
Lynne,
What a great thread here. I love your bottom line or last comment. As far as
business goes what you said really IS the bottom line. Business is not
rocket science. But you do have to wake up and pay attention to your
customer base and respond to their needs and demands. It really doesn't
matter if it is widgets or coffee, good business prat ice is good business.
JoeR
On 9/18/07, Lynne Biziewski  wrote:
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13) From: Joseph Robertson
On 9/18/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote:
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14) From: Joseph Robertson
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15) From: Joseph Robertson
Sorry about the multiple posts. I was trying to correct a misspelling by
deleting a message. Where is the gmail 101 class? ;)
On 9/18/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote:
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16) From: Brett Mason
...figured it was a result of being stuck up - I quote myself!....
On 9/18/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

17) From: Brandon Kolbe
Hi Stephen,
     I tend to judge coffee based on the type of establishment I am in.  If
I go into a restaurant I will drink the coffee if I am in the mood for it.
I will then base my judgment of the taste compared to other restaurants I
have been in.  If I go to a coffee shop then I expect a certain level of
flavor.  For instance, I went into the Stone Creek Coffee shop in Delafield,
WI.  The atmosphere was nice and the service was very good.  Unfortunately,
the coffee left an ashy flavor in my mouth.  I was very disappointed.  If I
go to a friend's or relative's house I will not, usually, turn down coffee
if it is offered to me.  If the restaurant allowed you to have a carry-in
coffee then more power to you.
Happy Roasting,
Brandon
On 9/15/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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"We are what we think.
All that we are arises
With our thoughts.
With our thoughts,
We make our world."
       -- Buddha

18) From: Stephen Carey
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I would never had brought in coffee if I thought the place would 
mind.  Heck, while illegal, poeple pop in for a burger with their 
dog, if no room outside.  This is a fun, very inexpensive place.  I 
could have brought my own yogurt in.  Unless I was sure it was fine I 
would not have done so, for as I ran out, I told our waitress I would 
be right back, "I'm going across the street for some strong 
stuff."  She was find with it.  You kind to have to know the place, 
cheap, but good food, the best help in the world, a bug here or 
there, it is where you go to hang for hours on end.  I have seen 
people there for two hours on one drink of soda.  Just a neighborhood 
fun place.
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I would never had brought in coffee if I thought the place
would mind.  Heck, while illegal, poeple pop in for a burger with
their dog, if no room outside.  This is a fun, very inexpensive
place.  I could have brought my own yogurt in.  Unless I was
sure it was fine I would not have done so, for as I ran out, I told our
waitress I would be right back, "I'm going across the street for
some strong stuff."  She was find with it.  You kind to
have to know the place, cheap, but good food, the best help in the world,
a bug here or there, it is where you go to hang for hours on end.  I
have seen people there for two hours on one drink of soda.  Just a
neighborhood fun place.
At 01:33 AM 9/19/2007, you wrote:
Hi Stephen,
     I tend to judge coffee based on the type of
establishment I am in.  If I go into a restaurant I will drink the
coffee if I am in the mood for it.  I will then base my judgment of
the taste compared to other restaurants I have been in.  If I go to
a coffee shop then I expect a certain level of flavor.  For
instance, I went into the Stone Creek Coffee shop in Delafield, WI. 
The atmosphere was nice and the service was very good. 
Unfortunately, the coffee left an ashy flavor in my mouth.  I was
very disappointed.  If I go to a friend's or relative's house I will
not, usually, turn down coffee if it is offered to me.  If the
restaurant allowed you to have a carry-in coffee then more power to you.
Happy Roasting,
Brandon
On 9/15/07, Stephen Carey
<steve
> wrote:
So, I went to see a friend downtown today.  The weather was what
one
dreams of a mid-Atlantic summer late summer day should be.  You
know,
mid-70's, low humidity, slight breeze, lots of sun, but a few
pretty
clouds drifting in the summer sky.
I planned my route to avoid any protests in the city - a normal
thing
when living in or around DC - don't want to get caught in closed
roads or parades or angry people.  I got to my friend's, I
handed 
over some Harar Horse, my second roast of it.  I still haven't
tasted
my first roast, but I am having faith, though this roast was not
an
easy one to pin down, at least for me.
We then went to a little eatery, where we were going to have a late
breakfast.  OH NOW, what to do.  The nice waitress poured
my
coffee.  I haven't had coffee that I haven't roasted since I
began
only two months ago, to be honest a bit less.  I looked
outside
wondering about this dilemma and saw my favorite coffee shop across
the street.  I had five minutes until my breakfast would be
ready, do
I do it?  Is it totally snobbery and rude?  Well, I had to
drink it,
so I was going for it.  I told my friend I would be right
back,
across the street I went, got two fresh coffees to  go, the
beans 
roasted only 48 hours or so ago.  And some roasting going on, as
the
machine ran and the beans darkened and the smell filled the
store.  I
ran back and gave my friend one and sipped on mine, oh what
flavor,
very good, a Costa Rican (I saw the sign, I couldn't tell from taste
- YET).  My friend did not think it rude since I got him one,
had I
only gotten one for myself different story.
The best part, the waitress brings our food, sees our cups of
coffee,
takes the coffee mugs she had bought, said, "good choice, these
will 
be off of the bill."  Obviously, I was not the first to do
such a
crude thing.  I am somewhat embarrassed, but if I was drinking
it,
and it wasn't hurting anyone for I would have paid for the coffee she
brought me, and I  tipped her on the coffee, well it all
seems
fine.  I just have a nagging feeling that I went to far. 
Sometime I
wish my conscience would just shut up.  So, did I go to
far.?  I
guess only I know that.
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19) From: Brandon Kolbe
Sounds like a fun place to go!  It's great that they don't mind you bring in
some coffee other than they serve.  So many places don't want a person to
have anything other than what they serve.
Happy Roasting,
Brandon
On 9/19/07, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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All that we are arises
With our thoughts.
With our thoughts,
We make our world."
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