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Topic: What to do? was: have I become stuck-up (24 msgs / 621 lines)
1) From:
I can't hardly drink lattes from most coffe shops now.  I can't immediately identify that I'm not going to have a good shot:
Portafilter laying around, room tempature until the barista fixes my order.
Barista removes the portafilter to prep my shot and it still has grinds in it-and I'm the only customer in the place (also another indicator, shoulda known)
Steam wand looks like the end of a blowtorch, all brownish.
I hear frothing that sounds like when I used to blow bubbles in my milk as a kid.
The tamp I observe is a little 2 pound tap, and the shot is into a paper cup, probably yielding about 4oz of "espressno", looks like the stuff from your engine at an 8,000 mile oil change.
Yes, I've had all these experiences in the last few months.  What to do?  Do you politely school the BArista? Decline the beverage?
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2) From: gin
ya carry around what you need in your new hiking pants with multiple "handy" pockets.
I understand from a friend that within two months we WILL have the iEspresso from Apple that will shoot your shot to about 212 degrees into the iCup and will keep it iPerfect for 15 minutes!!!
wait two months.
iWill.
ginny
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3) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
THANKS for the Laugh!!!!!
I needed that!
Dennis
I understand from a friend that within two months we WILL have the
iEspresso from Apple that will shoot your shot to about 212 degrees into
the iCup and will keep it iPerfect for 15 minutes!!!
wait two months.
iWill.
ginny

4) From: Rich
I suppose the iEspresso will be available in colors other than coffee.....
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5) From: Sandy Andina
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On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:04 PM, thirddayhomeroaster wrote:
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Hey, at least you're observing a tamp, period. You wouldn't believe  
what I've seen in my travels in small towns--if I order a breve with  
a double shot, one barista reaches up on the counter and pours the  
contents of a 4-oz shot glass (which has been sitting there since  
before I came in) into the cup before steaming the half-and-half  
(never mind even stretching it). In tollway oasis *$, they'll just  
sit the 40-oz pitcher down on the drip tray beneath the steam wand  
and let it bubble till it nearly boils over--and then if it's a  
cappa, hold back the stiff foam with a spoon while they pour some of  
the ruined scalded milk and then plop a couple of spoonfuls of foam  
atop it.  In another cafe that used to be pretty good (despite having  
only a 1-group commercial NS), things went so far downhill when the  
owner was serving in Iraq that upon his return he had to fire the  
staff, give up the phone and internet, use canned preground coffee  
for brewed drip and heaven-knows-how-old beans for espresso, brewed  
so weakly that I've had drip and press-pot coffee that was stronger  
and more opaque. What did I do in each instance? Smiled sweetly, said  
"thank you," plunked down my money (and a tip) and drank the swill.  
In the case of the *$, we didn't have time for me to pull my coffee  
kit out of my totebag and brew up my own in the rest room; in the  
case of the other two, they're places I sometimes play and I know  
what financial hell the owners are going through--it's not unusual  
some sunny summer days to have very, very few customers--townspeople  
and tourists alike want to take advantage of the great weather in an  
area where the climate is usually brutally cold. What's really sad is  
that most of the townsfolk haven't had any better (though in the case  
of the place that's circling the drain, its clientele has begun  
gravitating towards a strip-mall Gloria Jean's clone that uses  
superautos and charges *$ prices but at least brews full strength). I  
know, I know--if you can't do it right, don't do it at all; but  
sometimes neither of those two options is available.
Which makes me thankful for the embarrassment of caffeinated riches  
available to me within walking and easy driving distance on Chicago's  
North Side, as well as the wherewithal for me to do nearly as well at  
home.
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
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I can't hardly drink lattes from = most coffe shops now.  I = can't immediately identify that I'm not going to have a good = shot: Portafilter laying around, room tempature until the = barista fixes my order.Barista = removes the portafilter to prep my shot and it still has grinds in = it-and I'm the only customer in the place (also another indicator, = shoulda known)Steam wand looks like the end of = a blowtorch, all brownish.I hear = frothing that sounds like when I used to blow bubbles in my milk as a = kid.The tamp I observe is a little 2 = pound tap, and the shot is into a paper cup, probably yielding about 4oz = of "espressno", looks like the stuff from your engine at an 8,000 mile = oil change. Yes, I've had all these experiences in the last few = months.  What to do?  Do you politely school the = BArista? Decline the beverage? Hey, at least you're = observing a tamp, period. You wouldn't believe what I've seen in my = travels in small towns--if I order a breve with a double shot, one = barista reaches up on the counter and pours the contents of a 4-oz shot = glass (which has been sitting there since before I came in) into the cup = before steaming the half-and-half (never mind even stretching it). In = tollway oasis *$, they'll just sit the 40-oz pitcher down on the drip = tray beneath the steam wand and let it bubble till it nearly boils = over--and then if it's a cappa, hold back the stiff foam with a spoon = while they pour some of the ruined scalded milk and then plop a couple = of spoonfuls of foam atop it.  In another cafe that used to be pretty = good (despite having only a 1-group commercial NS), things went so far = downhill when the owner was serving in Iraq that upon his return he had = to fire the staff, give up the phone and internet, use canned preground = coffee for brewed drip and heaven-knows-how-old beans for espresso, = brewed so weakly that I've had drip and press-pot coffee that was = stronger and more opaque. What did I do in each instance? Smiled = sweetly, said "thank you," plunked down my money (and a tip) and drank = the swill. In the case of the *$, we didn't have time for me to pull my = coffee kit out of my totebag and brew up my own in the rest room; in the = case of the other two, they're places I sometimes play and I know what = financial hell the owners are going through--it's not unusual some sunny = summer days to have very, very few customers--townspeople and tourists = alike want to take advantage of the great weather in an area where the = climate is usually brutally cold. What's really sad is that most of the = townsfolk haven't had any better (though in the case of the place that's = circling the drain, its clientele has begun gravitating towards a = strip-mall Gloria Jean's clone that uses superautos and charges *$ = prices but at least brews full strength). I know, I know--if you can't = do it right, don't do it at all; but sometimes neither of those two = options is available.
Which makes me thankful = for the embarrassment of caffeinated riches available to me within = walking and easy driving distance on Chicago's North Side, as well as = the wherewithal for me to do nearly as well at home. Sandywww.sass-music.com
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6) From: Sandy Andina
On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Rich wrote:
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Wait two months and they'll bring out a new one for $200 less.

7) From: Scot Murphy
On Sep 22, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Sandy Andina wrote:
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Yeah, but at least you'll get a $100 credit you can use for the new  
iEspresso Touch.
Scot "what it touches, I ain't tellin'" Murphy
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"Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn people."
	--Ralph Waldo Emerson

8) From: Rich
Ahhh, but then you get a $100.00 coupon to spend in the iEspresso store because you were an early 
buyer...
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9) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Will they have $0.99 shot downloads?

10) From: Rich
I hear that they will have DRM though.
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11) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Well that is something.. Can you customize it?
Dennis
"It is by Caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion
It is by the beans Java, that my thoguhts aquire speed
the hands acquire shakes; the shakes become a warning
It is by Caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion"
I hear that they will have DRM though.

12) From: Bob Brashear
True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote:
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Only if you port it to Linux.
Bob

13) From: raymanowen
One is genuinely 'Stuck-up' only if he doesn't hit the deck when he
loses his grip.
You've lost it if you ever return to a food emporium that has coffee
as a menu beverage item and makes you wish you'd brought your own when
they serve it, without directly addressing the barista with the
problem.
In that case, a demo cup of your best nectar, followed by six words: I
roasted and brewed this cup is in order. If that does not elicit a
profound change, they're dead above the toenails and your next action
should be to Keep Fishin', and perhaps leave a comment card with "Get
Well Soon !" in the comment space.
For me, there's another solution. It's called Edith, her sister, Sarah
or their brother, Dan. #1 is the artist, 2 and 3 manage stores. The
clowns will wish they'd never pretended to be in the coffee business!
Would you patronize a swimming pool if they charged you for the water
or you had to bring your own?
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On 9/22/07, thirddayhomeroaster
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"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the
Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

14) From: Rick Copple
Okay.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
The doctor tells you he's giving you a shot and you get excited.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
Your stash of green coffee beans is so large, the police show up at your 
door because of the continual flow of cars around your house to buy the 
"drug."
You know you're a coffee snob when...
You seriously consider a new roaster that cost 2K.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
Everyone in your family gets a bag of coffee for Christmas, whether they 
drink coffee or not.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
You have more "appliances" under repair and modifications than your 
local TV repair shop.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
UPS tells you from now on, you'll have ship your coffee and its supplies 
by truck.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
You buy 20# or more bags of everything Les recommends.
You know you're a coffee snob when...
Your roasting logs are so detailed, you can recall what color grouping 
each bean in a particular roast fell into.
And, finally, you know you're a coffee snob when...
Tom and Maria put a special limit on what you can order so everyone else 
will have a chance to get some!
And, no, I didn't get these from anywhere. I just made them up. :)
Now I'm ready to go on the next "Last Comic Standing". LOL
-- 
Rick Copple

15) From: Rich
Very good Rick, but you forgot one:  You know you are a coffee snob when you bring your own fixins to 
a high buck restaurant.
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16) From: raymanowen
"...I didn't get these from anywhere."
But I did -ro
On 9/22/07, Rick Copple  wrote:
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17) From: Rick Copple
raymanowen wrote:
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Though I usually try to remember to strip my author's site from my sig 
due to the list rules (sometimes I forget), you might include that with 
my name so I can get some free publicity in the process, if you are 
going to spread that around. :) See in my sig.
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Rick Copplehttp://www.rlcopple.com/

18) From: Lynne Biziewski
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You work in a restaurant, and bring home a disposable cup so you
can quietly carry in your own homeroast to drink while you work...

19) From: Rich
Sneaky, and to be commended for resourcefulness! Well done.
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From: Lynne Biziewski
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:15:19 -0400
You know you're a coffee snob when...
You work in a restaurant, and bring home a disposable cup so you 
can quietly carry in your own homeroast to drink while you work...

20) From: miKe mcKoffee
Personally if I see obvious signs of poor equipment cleanliness or poor
technique (including pre-grinding piles for later use in a doser) I =
simply
won't order. Period. Regardless the situation "Life's too short to drink =
bad
coffee". If strictly a caffeine fix is needed there are other known
consistent tasting options readily available about anywhere like Coke or =
Dr.
Pepper etc. 
"If" a place looks like there's a chance for a decent espresso I'll =
normally
engage the barista in conversation before ordering, assuming they're not
slammed. I don't "offer" unsolicited suggestions on technique etc. but =
if
asked in the course of conversation will discuss whatever. Sometimes =
I'll
learn from them, sometimes they'll learn from me. If slammed and real
conversation isn't possible I'll have ample opportunity to observe =
before
and if deciding to order. When & if ordering I always request no paper
please. If they only have paper cups for service I again simply won't =
order.
If I order I pay, period. However, I tip according to care and quality =
of
product and service. I will not tip poor service or poor quality, that's
just me. To me a tip is something personal and earned, not automatic. =
Trust
me, I can be a quite generous to overly generous tipper when it's =
merited.
I couldn't care less if someone on the List or anywhere calls me a =
coffee
snob. I'll simply say "thank-you, what's your point"?
My current solution to help assure a high level of quality in my =
community
is quite simple, keep moving forward opening a Roastery Café! ;-)
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
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21) From: Lynne Biziewski
It's all survival, baby - survival. Eventually I'll offer a taste, but it's
too soon right now.
Lynne
(timing is everything... along with good, supportive shoes)
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everything and then learned to reclaim it all.

22) From: Lynne Biziewski
Hey, here you are sort of preaching to the choir, right? We all feel the
same
(and I, for one, wish you were closer to my home!).
A potential employer (didn't work out, for many reasons I won't go into
here) referred to
to himself as a coffee snob - then proceeded to brag that  he gets free
coffee from
Char$s now & then.
Ha!
Let's face it - all of us here can carry the true label of being coffee
snobs - simply because
we drink the best.
I couldn't care less if someone on the List or anywhere calls me a coffee
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On Sep 22, 2007, at 7:50 PM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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I'll simply say "thank-you, it took a lot of work to get here."
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I couldn't care less if = someone on the List or anywhere calls me a coffee

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24) From: raymanowen
"...we drink the best."
Still trying -ro
On 9/22/07, Lynne Biziewski  wrote:
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