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Topic: any BM/HG roasters using Welbilt 2200T or 3600? (6 msgs / 148 lines)
1) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
My local thrift shop has one of each, neither have a manual.
    ABM2200T   round pan (1lb?)    $ 6.27
    ABM3600    square pan (2lb?)   $10.38
I'm curious if either are usable BM/HG roasting?  I roast either half 
pound, or full pound batches (green weight) and suspect either machine 
should be able to handle the beans.  I'm more concerned about 
overheating (has happened once on my Toastmaster) and dough mix run 
times (my toastmaster has a 17 min max dough cycle which was too short 
one time).
Thanks!
pat----

2) From: Vicki Smith
I'd go with the 2 pound pan. It's probably deeper and some of the bread 
machines really toss the beans around. There is a page on my website 
about removing or moving the thermostat. See: http://coffeecrone.com/roasting/thermostat.htm.Not all machines are the 
same of course, but the ones with thermostats are pretty similar as to 
where they are placed and how to (re)move them. It's also possible that 
the bigger capacity machine has a longer dough cycle.
I know that for the bread machines I have used, I can stop the machine 
part way through the roast, pause for a moment, and then reset at the 
beginning. That should give you loads of time. I tend not to roast to 
the point of oily and I think the longest roast I have ever had was 14 
minutes. Unless you are intentionally going for a longish roast time, 
you might try adjusting the distance between the beans and the end of 
the heat gun to roast a bit faster. I generally hit first crack about 9 
minutes using a 1500 watt gun that puts out around 840 degrees F of heat 
at the higher setting.
Every once in awhile folks here talk about double roasting when the 
first time (whatever method they used) ended up to light for their 
taste. If you run out of time, you can give the machine time to reset 
and begin again.
Vicki
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3) From: Vicki Smith
PS: Ask the thrift shop if you can plug it in. The timer should 
immediately tell you how long the dough cycle is when you plug it in and 
choose that mode.
v

4) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
Vicki,
    Thank you for such a quick reply.  And I just saw your other reply 
pop in too.  I will definitely ask to plug them in and see.  If they 
look like they have long enough dough cycles, I may try both ($17.65 
including state sales tax) .  Although the round one is a 1# and the 
square pan is a 2#, the pans are equally as tall in both.  I am 
interested in the round one due to the habit my square one has of 
binding on beans in the corners during it's first 4 minute turn & pause 
cycle.  I end up with dozens of beans flying away each time. :(
    And I only hit the 17 minute mark once.  I think it was a pound of 
some Kona that took over 13 minutes to hit first crack, got rolling at 
about 14 minutes and then ended at 16 minutes 45 seconds or so ... about 
15 seconds after the last sound of a crack ... the machine went into 
"rest mode" on me. :(  Will have to get up the nerve to test a stop & 
restart run.  Usually I get a heat warning for a while after the stop.  
may have to open up the Toastmaster (once I have the welbilt's available 
as emergency spares) and see if there's a thermostat I can remove on it too.
    Ans speaking of roast times ... just did a 1/2 pound of Panama Lot 
12686 from last season ... first sound of first crack was at 7 minutes 
and it was rolling by 7.5.  Only 77F here today too! :)
    again,    thanks!

5) From: raymanowen
Keep the HG nosed well into the bread pan, so you don't direct any
heat into the bread machine innards. HG and Roasting temperatures are
substantially higher than the 325 - 350 bread baking temperatures.
If you misdirect the heat, you won't have to worry about "get up the
nerve to test a stop &
restart run." The machine will do it for you.
One warm day, my DAK/ Welbuilt with the big glass dome top decided
against a continuous run in the "Dough" kneading cycle. The blower of
my Grand Slam roast stopper cooled it off. Some aluminum foil around
the bread pan and inside the machine put an end to the overheating
nonsense.
To spite me, the DAK walked off the counter and broke the dome after I
returned it to bread making use. I forgot that we used to set it in
the sink because of its tendency to "walk" when kneading dough. It
made very good bread loaves if you corralled it when it mixed and
kneaded dough. The vacuum brained jughead forgot.
The DAK could have made a stand alone roaster/ cooler by reflashing
its firmware, but practical bean removal would require something like
a cyclone and a shop vac. Vast idea; plan only 0.5 vast.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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On 9/23/07, Patrick R. Sklenar  wrote:
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6) From: Jim Gundlach
To make any bread machine a functioning and reliable roaster when  
paired with a heat gun, you need to rewire so you have a manual  
switch to control the stirring.  It is really simple.  Learn what a  
relay looks like, find the relay that connects to the motor and put  
the switch in the place of the relay, wiring wise that is.  I have  
totally disconnected the bread machine heater on the ones I built and  
use the heat gun for all the  heat.
      pecan jim
On Sep 23, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Patrick R. Sklenar wrote:
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