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Topic: Rocks in my Sumatra! (16 msgs / 600 lines)
1) From: Alex Garant
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So there I was, I had just roasted my first batch of Sumatra Blue Batak =
Tarbarita Peaberry to Full City per Tom's suggestion. I had let it rest =
the obligatory two days... scratch that - two minutes (who can wait, =
really?). Threw it in the grinder, flipped the switch, and CRUNCH!!! =
Ack! Well maybe it wasn't an allcaps crunch, and the grinder quickly =
churned through it, but soon small flecks of grey stuff started showing =
up evenly distributed through the ground coffee. So after tossing this =
bit, I emptied the grinder and found two more little stones. Nervous, I =
went through the rest of the unroasted five pound bag. In total, I found =
six stones, with a seventh having been already ground up. 
I'm just putting this out there to anyone who currently has this coffee =
in their stash. If you've got this one, you might take a close look =
before grinding. I'm not in any way mad at Sweet Maria's. It just =
happens that this is the highest rock count I've had in the threeish =
years I've been roasting. Are any of you aware of coffees to be =
particularily watchful of, or do you think this was just bad luck?
I'm currently on the road to stash production having just purchased =
seven coffees from Tom's! (I'll worry about reduction a couple of orders =
from now... )Gotten about halfway through tasting them, so far it's been =
great. I live in Toronto where there's about 4 million people and have =
tried all the local suppliers and results have always been hit and miss. =
No one knows their coffee the way Tom does!
Happily drinking a non-rocky Sumatra
Alex.
PS - JoeGlow works wonders on roasting chambers - no more peering =
through dark brown glass!
A.

2) From: Alex Garant
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  So there I was, I had just roasted my first batch of Sumatra Blue =
Batak Tarbarita Peaberry to Full City per Tom's suggestion. I had let it =
rest the obligatory two days... scratch that - two minutes (who can =
wait, really?). Threw it in the grinder, flipped the switch, and =
CRUNCH!!! Ack! Well maybe it wasn't an allcaps crunch, and the grinder =
quickly churned through it, but soon small flecks of grey stuff started =
showing up evenly distributed through the ground coffee. So after =
tossing this bit, I emptied the grinder and found two more little =
stones. Nervous, I went through the rest of the unroasted five pound =
bag. In total, I found six stones, with a seventh having been already =
ground up. 
  I'm just putting this out there to anyone who currently has this =
coffee in their stash. If you've got this one, you might take a close =
look before grinding. I'm not in any way mad at Sweet Maria's. It just =
happens that this is the highest rock count I've had in the threeish =
years I've been roasting. Are any of you aware of coffees to be =
particularily watchful of, or do you think this was just bad luck?
  I'm currently on the road to stash production having just purchased =
seven coffees from Tom's! (I'll worry about reduction a couple of orders =
from now... )Gotten about halfway through tasting them, so far it's been =
great. I live in Toronto where there's about 4 million people and have =
tried all the local suppliers and results have always been hit and miss. =
No one knows their coffee the way Tom does!
  Happily drinking a non-rocky Sumatra
  Alex.
  PS - JoeGlow works wonders on roasting chambers - no more peering =
through dark brown glass!
  A.

3) From: gin
Alex:
I think your luck ran out, plain and simply.
I have never had one stone, piece of stem, rodent parts or anything in my greens. That said Tom may now load my next batch of premium greens with all sorts of stuff!!
Hit and miss Alex.  
I am glad your grinder did not go south with the rock. Kinda like putting marbles in the garbage disposal!
ginny
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee
It's always a good idea to at least do a cursory check of beans before and
after roasting for foreign objects, especially DPs.
Never tried marbles in the garbage disposal but numerous pieces of
silverware over the years! 
:-)
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5) From: Sandy Andina
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Have often seen rocks and even popcorn kernels in my Harar, but never  
in my Sumatra. Will now sift through all my greens before I roast!
On Sep 27, 2007, at 11:49 AM, gin wrote:
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Have often seen rocks and even popcorn kernels in my Harar, but never in =
my Sumatra. Will now sift through all my greens before I =
roast!
On Sep 27, 2007, at 11:49 AM, gin wrote:
Alex: I think your luck ran out, plain = and simply. I have never had one stone, piece of stem, rodent = parts or anything in my greens. That said Tom may now load my next batch = of premium greens with all sorts of stuff!! Hit and miss = Alex.   I am = glad your grinder did not go south with the rock. Kinda like putting = marbles in the garbage disposal! ginny ---- Alex = Garant <alexgarant> = wrote:  So there I was, I had just roasted my first batch of = Sumatra Blue Batak Tarbarita Peaberry to Full City per Tom's suggestion. = I had let it rest the obligatory two days... scratch that - two minutes = (who can wait, really?). Threw it in the grinder, flipped the switch, = and CRUNCH!!! Ack! Well maybe it wasn't an allcaps crunch, and the = grinder quickly churned through it, but soon small flecks of grey stuff = started showing up evenly distributed through the ground coffee. So = after tossing this bit, I emptied the grinder and found two more little = stones. Nervous, I went through the rest of the unroasted five pound = bag. In total, I found six stones, with a seventh having been already = ground up.  I'm just = putting this out there to anyone who currently has this coffee in their = stash. If you've got this one, you might take a close look before = grinding. I'm not in any way mad at Sweet Maria's. It just happens that = this is the highest rock count I've had in the threeish years I've been = roasting. Are any of you aware of coffees to be particularily watchful = of, or do you think this was just bad luck? I'm currently = on the road to stash production having just purchased seven coffees from = Tom's! (I'll worry about reduction a couple of orders from now... = )Gotten about halfway through tasting them, so far it's been great. I = live in Toronto where there's about 4 million people and have tried all = the local suppliers and results have always been hit and miss. No one = knows their coffee the way Tom does! Happily drinking a non-rocky = SumatraAlex. PS - = JoeGlow works wonders on roasting chambers - no more peering through = dark brown glass!A. homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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6) From: Larry Williams
Thanks for the heads-up.  If Sumatra Blue Batak Tarbarita Peaberry is in 
the Double 8-Pack Green Coffee Sampler I just ordered, I'll be on the 
lookout.  I once found a spring in a batch of greens from a local 
roaster in Stockton CA.  luckily I didn't have the burr grinder yet, and 
the blade grinder survived.
Larry
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7) From: Larry Johnson
I take a good look through the beans after roasting but have never found
anything but beans. I still do it, though, because I know they're out there
(the rocks, sticks, general debris). It's only a matter of time.
I look through the beans before roasting, too, but then I'm looking for bad
beans, i.e. the black ones. These I do find every now and then and toss. I
search for rocks post-roast because I figure they're easier to spot then.
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8) From: raymanowen
Don't you Never, "...after tossing this bit"
Make that, Never, Ever "...after tossing this bit!" unless the Toss is
into a TechniVorm or some other coffee brewing matchine.
Next time, just bag it in a sandwich Ziploc and send the evidence this
way. I'll be happy to test it out for you.
I wasn't aware that rocks extract anything at all. Maybe the Days are
Numbered for your burrs now?
Two Minutes is about right, after a New Roast before a Steinway happens.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
cup, Mug, Stein...
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9) From: Homeroaster
I'm thinking you got the bottom of the bag, where the stones that are
heavier than the beans might accumulate.  Specialty coffee is not supposed
to have 'any' primary defects (stones).
lets be real though.  It's an agricultural product, and processing is not a 
precision operation.  I would expect to find an occasional stone in 
specialty coffee, but what you got was excessive in my opinion.
Here's what the SCAA says Specialty Coffee should be...http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/scaaclass.htm"Specialty green coffee beans have no more than 5 full defects in 300 grams 
of coffee.  No primary defects are allowed. "
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

10) From: Robert Joslin
Another good reason to "winnow" your roasted beans  between two wire
baskets.  You get rid of any residual chaff and you get a good look at the
roast and anything that doesn't belong there....the odd burnt bean, the "off
color" bean, etc.                                                  Josh
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11) From: Oaxaca Charly
Homeroaster  wrote: I'm thinking you got the bottom of the bag, where the stones that are
heavier than the beans might accumulate.  Specialty coffee is not supposed
to have 'any' primary defects (stones).
lets be real though.  It's an agricultural product, and processing is not a 
precision operation.  I would expect to find an occasional stone in 
specialty coffee, but what you got was excessive in my opinion.
Here's what the SCAA says Specialty Coffee should be...http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/scaaclass.htm"Specialty green coffee beans have no more than 5 full defects in 300 grams 
of coffee.  No primary defects are allowed. "
  I bought a 130 lb. sack of this same coffee. It's fancy and delicious, but I've been finding an abnormal amount of stones in it. What's much worse, I found one bent nail that would have damaged a grinder more than the stones.  The coffee is so clean, otherwise, that it's easy to find the junk, but don't forget to look...
 Charly
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Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

12) From: Alex Garant
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Wow, a nail! You win for sure! I've never really searched through my =
greens for foreign debris before this, but perhaps I've been a bit =
cavalier. Guess I'll check more diligently from now on. Ruining a set of =
burrs would mean days without coffee waiting for a new set to arrive... =
horrors! And hey you never know, maybe the next rock I find will be a =
diamond.
Alex.

13) From: Eddie Dove
Yet another insightful post from, Ed as a result of his wisdom from
years of experience.
Did you read the page he referenced?
Eddie
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Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 9/27/07, Homeroaster  wrote:
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14) From: David
The roaster I used to work for kept a tray of all the
foreign matter found in the coffee, the usual rocks,
nuts, bolts, washers.  The most unusual/disturbing
item was teeth, human.
David
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  I would never have thought to look. Thanks for the
heads up, and I'mglad it didn't trash your grinder!
Alex Garant wrote:         
  So there I was, I had just roastedmy first batch of
Sumatra Blue Batak Tarbarita Peaberry to Full Cityper
Tom's suggestion. I had let it rest the obligatory two
days...scratch that - two minutes (who can wait,
really?). Threw it in thegrinder, flipped the switch,
and CRUNCH!!! Ack! Well maybe it wasn't anallcaps
crunch, and the grinder quickly churned through it,
but soonsmall flecks of grey stuff started showing up
evenly distributedthrough the ground coffee. So after
tossing this bit, I emptied thegrinder and found two
more little stones. Nervous, I went through therest of
the unroasted five pound bag. In total, I found six
stones,with a seventh having been already ground up. 
   
  I'm just putting this out there toanyone who
currently has this coffee in their stash. If you've
got thisone, you might take a close look before
grinding. I'm not in any waymad at Sweet Maria's. It
just happens that this is the highest rockcount I've
had in the threeish years I've been roasting. Are any
of youaware of coffees to be particularily watchful
of, or do you think thiswas just bad luck?
   
  I'm currently on the road to stashproduction having
just purchased seven coffees from Tom's! (I'll
worryabout reduction a couple of orders from now...
)Gotten about halfwaythrough tasting them, so far it's
been great. I live in Toronto wherethere's about 4
million people and have tried all the local
suppliersand results have always been hit and miss. No
one knows their coffeethe way Tom does!
   
  Happily drinking a non-rocky Sumatra
  Alex.
   
  PS - JoeGlow works wonders onroasting chambers - no
more peering through dark brown glass!
  A.

15) From: Homeroaster
I'd like to hear what Sweetmarias says about a customer finding six rocks in 
a five pound order.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

16) From: Homeroaster
Put the body parts in bags and ship them to a number of foreign countries. 
What a plan!
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************


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