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Topic: which is the best home roaster (24 msgs / 593 lines)
1) From: robert pulido
which is the best home roaster

2) From: Homeroaster
Me!
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3) From: Kathleen Tinkel
I always suggest that beginners get a small air-roaster to begin with, either:
FreshRoast (current 
model, just updated, is the Plus 8) with the Sweet Maria's coffee 
8-pack sampler, all of which costs less than $100.
Or the 
Hearthware 
i-Roast 2 (also with the sampler coffee pack) at roughly twice the 
cost of the FreshRoast but with more sophisticated features and 
better control.
Both of these machines have relatively small capacity, but this is 
ideal for learning about coffee roasting. You can roast four 
different beans in an evening and have a taste test the next morning. 
And when you graduate to a roaster of larger capacity, either of 
these small roasters is a great backup for the times the big roaster 
needs repairs (or when you just want to get an idea of how a new bean 
tastes).
Other than that, what is your budget? How much space do you have? Do 
you have an efficient ventilation fan (over your stove, say), which 
is required for the larger-capacity drum roasters? Do you enjoy 
technical challenges, or are you looking for more of an appliance? 
These factors should be part of your decision.
Sweet Maria's doesn't sell any dud roasters that I know of. Look at 
the web site's 
roaster overview 
page and see what functions you can have at which price point (and 
size, ventilation requirements, and so on). Tom also posts a wealth 
of useful roasting information on each roaster (and in general).
Beyond that, you could consider the high-capacity RK gas-grill 
roaster, which SM does not sell, but quite a few list members use it. 
And beyond that, you get into serious commercial equipment.
Coffee-roasting is a lot of fun, and there is no other way to have 
fabulous coffee tailored to your taste. Good luck with getting 
started.
Kathleen
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4) From: Joe Preiser
No, me! :)
Seriously, I think that's looking to open a can of worms.
All of the roasters, both home-built or commercial have their strengths 
and weaknesses.  You need to decide what you want and what qualities you 
need or can live without (or work around).
I have a Gene Cafe and, while only having used it for a couple of 
roasts, like its design and can work around its shortcomings (primarily 
the cooling phase).
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5) From: Eddie Dove
Well done!
Eddie
On 10/1/07, Kathleen Tinkel  wrote:
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6) From: Jim Gundlach
I'd vote for HG/BM
On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:16 PM, robert pulido wrote:
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7) From: raymanowen
"which is the best home roaster"
The numbers will support my opinion:
1.) - HG/DB (Heat Gun/ Dog Bowl)
2.) - HG/DB (Heat Gun/ Deep mixer Bowl)
3.) - HG/BM (Heat Gun/ Bread Machine)
1 is cheapest; 2, 3 are a toss-up- Do you already have a.)the mixer
bowl or b.)the bread machine, and can you get a bread machine or two
at the thrift store?
1. can roast any batch size up to 1#.
2. can roast any batch up to 2#.
3. can roast up to 2#, May need paddle mod for smaller than 12oz batch.
At the outside, if you get crazy and buy new, you could shell out
$200. Nobody does.
Plan Ahea-
d. If you have roasted more than a few grams (>100g), the roast will
likely not stop just because you wish it would stop.
With a 1000watt heat gun, you're applying energy at the rate of 1-1/3
horsepower for several minutes. The small mass accumulates a lot of
energy in that time, and you'd better have a good set of brakes to get
it stopped.
With a drum heated by a gas fire, the total energy is enormous. My
electric cyclone will cool the drum and the roast rapidly. So far, my
mockup heater muffle, consisting of wood and cardboard panels wired
and taped together, gets blown completely apart and off the BBQ base.
When I grow up, I'm going to learn how to weld without burning up
metal panels. Maybe I should "stick" with brazing...
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On 10/1/07, robert pulido  wrote:
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8) From: Les
This depends on your budget.  If money is no object, I would go for
the new Hottop at about a grand.  If money is very tight, I would opt
for the heatgun/dogbowl; or heatgun/bread machine on the other end of
the spectrum.  Everything inbetween has their plus and minus points.
I do believe that the Behmor 1600 when it hits the market is going to
be a great value for the dollar.
Les
On 10/1/07, robert pulido  wrote:
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9) From: miKe mcKoffee
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"best" defined how? Inexpensive? Large batch size? Small batch size? Able to
vary batch size? Consistent results batch to batch? Easy to use? Able to be
used indoors with minimal smoke? Easily vary profiles? Easily replicate a
given desired profile? 
 
As far as currently available "best" of the off the shelf home roast
appliances I'd say with zero hesitation either of the two HotTop models.
Most affordable half way decent off the shelf I-Roast 2, but it's not nearly
as good or flexible a roaster as the HotTops.
 
Cheapest way to roast, grab a frying pan and wooden spoon you already have.
 
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
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URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of robert pulido
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:16 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: +which is the best home roaster
which is the best home roaster

10) From: Joseph Robertson
Mike,
Ahh, the frying pan. I'm going camping for a few days to harvest some
juniper cuttings for Christmas decor. I'm taking a cast iron frying pan and
some Sumatra. Just need the camp fire now.  I want to get a feel for how
they still do it in the Himalaya's. I can smell it now. I will be sure and
take pics and report back to the list.
Mike, when your name comes up here some of us turn a little to make sure we
are facing east. ;) You have been such a great ambassador of specialty
coffee and pallet reform. I hope in my coffee years ahead I can contribute a
fraction of what you have. I'm somewhat new to this list so I ask you this
question and probably missed this, on several posts you have mentioned using
a home freezer. Are you are freezing greens or roasted coffee. I assume
greens but assume I don't want to do.
JoeR
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11) From: Brett Mason
My skillet is going on my 3day campout Friday as well...  Along with a pound
of Java Government Estate, my steel spatula, my collander, and a mason
jar...  The Minimalist Camping Nazi's are trying to change this campout into
a sparse survival exercise, and so I have cut down to only the luxuruies I
want to bring....
Can't wait.  (Will leave the radio at home!)
Brett
On 10/2/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote:
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12) From: Lynne Biziewski
The only problem with a skillet is the low sides - it's difficult to stir
without sending beans flying all over the place.
I like a smaller pan with higher sides.
On 10/2/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote:
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13) From: Brett Mason
My skillet is a RevereWare 12" with 2" sides.  I use a flat pancake turner
to lift and fold the beans over, as I work toward a consistent roast
(FIE - there are no consistent roasts in a skillet! - but I love this method
anyway!)
Brett
On 10/2/07, Lynne Biziewski  wrote:
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14) From: Alchemist John
Damn - I was going to say that.
Actually, in many (most) ways, that organic portion behind the 
roaster is what makes a roaster ok, good or great.
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15) From: Randy Roy
I use 2 slightly modified Poppery I's and they suit my needs just fine.

16) From: Joseph Robertson
A Cast Iron pot maybe?
JoeR
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18) From: Brett Mason
I have never roasted a hoe.  I haven't even plain burnt one down....
This seems off topic on a coffee roasting list...
Brett
On 10/1/07, robert pulido  wrote:
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19) From: Lynne Biziewski
We all appreciate your open candid confession, Brett..
 (stay away from those hoes!)
:P
On 10/2/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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20) From: john
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here's a link to my skillet setup which might solve the flying bean =
problem...http://preview.tinyurl.com/226xh6skillet was about $15 at academy and lid came from walmart with a cheapo =
stainless skillet for around $20.  spoons are about a buck a piece.
-john

21) From: Tom Ulmer
My opinion is that the hoe should do the roasting. Burning one down is
optional...

22) From: miKe mcKoffee
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Rounded side 12" SS sauté pan, 1/2# batch no spoon stirring "chef =
tossed"
only. Lost 7 beans:-)
 
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ 
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Joseph =
Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:01 AM
A Cast Iron pot maybe?
JoeR
On 10/2/07, Lynne Biziewski  wrote: 
The only problem with a skillet is the low sides - it's difficult to =
stir
without sending beans flying all over the place.
I like a smaller pan with higher sides.
On 10/2/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote: 
Mike,
Ahh, the frying pan. I'm going camping for a few days to harvest some
juniper cuttings for Christmas decor. I'm taking a cast iron frying pan =
and
some Sumatra. Just need the camp fire now.  I want to get a feel for how
they still do it in the Himalaya's. I can smell it now. I will be sure =
and
take pics and report back to the list. 
Mike, when your name comes up here some of us turn a little to make sure =
we
are facing east. ;) You have been such a great ambassador of specialty
coffee and pallet reform. I hope in my coffee years ahead I can =
contribute a
fraction of what you have. I'm somewhat new to this list so I ask you =
this
question and probably missed this, on several posts you have mentioned =
using
a home freezer. Are you are freezing greens or roasted coffee. I assume
greens but assume I don't want to do. 
JoeR 

23) From: Jim Gundlach
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This is exactly how I learned the "chef toss".
           pecan jim
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Rounded side 12" SS sauté = pan, 1/2# batch no spoon stirring "chef tossed" only. Lost 7 = beans:-)  

Pacific Northwest Gathering VI http://home.comcast.ne=t/~mckona/PNWGVI.htm Kona Konnaisseur miKe = mcKoffee www.mcKonaKoffee.com URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, = some recipes etc: http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimate= ly the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first = not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment = found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone = before. Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/

  = From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-adm= in] On Behalf Of Joseph = Robertson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:01 = AM A Cast Iron pot maybe? JoeR = On 10/2/07, Lynne Biziewski <lynnebiz> = wrote: The only problem with a skillet is the low sides - it's = difficult to stir without sending beans flying all over the = place. I like a smaller pan with higher sides. = On 10/2/07, Joseph Robertson <theotherjo> wrote: Mike, Ahh, the frying pan. I'm going camping for a few = days to harvest some juniper cuttings for Christmas decor. I'm = taking a cast iron frying pan and some Sumatra. Just need the camp = fire now.  I want to get a feel for how they still do it in the = Himalaya's. I can smell it now. I will be sure and take pics and = report back to the list. Mike, when your name comes up here = some of us turn a little to make sure we are facing east. ;) You have = been such a great ambassador of specialty coffee and pallet reform. I = hope in my coffee years ahead I can contribute a fraction of what = you have. I'm somewhat new to this list so I ask you this question = and probably missed this, on several posts you have mentioned = using a home freezer. Are you are freezing greens or roasted = coffee. I assume greens but assume I don't want to do. JoeR = = --Apple-Mail-5-466616850--

24) From: Joseph Robertson
Love it Mike.
I need these tips for my camping trip. Last year I took along a cheap
espresso machine. Set it on my buddies front winch bumper, plugged it into
an inverter, started up his truck and proceeded to make a nice cup by the
camp fire. Someone asked what that whining sound was over the sound of my
espresso pouring. Dave yelled, that's my damn alternator your
cooking......Oh well..we shut it down in time. He pointed out that we were
about 80 miles from the nearest phone and doubted that the one cup of
espresso would help me much on my walk to get parts.
I think I will keep it simple and  just roast over the open fire and try ou=
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an Aeropress for the first time.
Ahh, the smell of a fresh roast in the open air. I can't wait.
JoeR
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