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Topic: Travel grinder suggestions (21 msgs / 940 lines)
1) From: W. Simon
Hi everyone,
I'm going to be traveling for a week in November.  I plan on taking my
french press and electric water kettle.  My Solis Maestro plus will be
getting used by my girlfriend.  I loaned my old whirly grinder to someone
and they are working out of state.  So, I'm left with few options.  I hate
to spend money on a new grinder.  I'm leaning towards grinding a week's
worth of coffee.  I guess a $10 whirly grinder may be the way to go.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Wes

2) From: Jim Gundlach
Sorry,
    This is like asking if you should shoot or hang yourself.   I  
recommend neither.
         pecan jim
On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:57 PM, W. Simon wrote:
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
Jim,
I disagree. Grinding a weeks worth in advance would indeed be suicidal but
using a whirly chop for press on the road merely beating oneself soundly
with a cat-o-nine tails. 
Wes,
So don't buy a "new" decent press pot grinder, buy a "refurb" Maestro for
$60:-)
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4) From: Sean Cary
I am pretty much on long term travel here in Iraq...  I bought and am
mastering a Zassenhaus Turkish. (Using a Mug French Press and a really
great 220V water heater) WAY more expensive then a cheap blade
grinder, but also WAY better.  I figure I will need it again -
hopefully not soon.
Sean
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5) From: Rob Piirainen
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My guess is a $20 Melitta burr grinder would be better than a whirly, you
can calibrate it for finer grind, also an Aeropress with it's paper filter
is more tolerant of a poor grind.

6) From: Brian Kamnetz
Sean,
Are you getting so that you like the Zass Turkish grinder?
Thanks,
Brian
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7) From: Sean Cary
yeah - still gives me a ton of dust some days, but overall it is much
more consistent then the whirly blade I was using.
It needs a new spring on the adjuster - my opinion.  It does not have
enough tension on it, something I would have fixed in 5 minutes at
home...have to wait until I get home in Feb.
Still having better coffee then the rest of the shop - I am too lazy
to bother to fight the coffee mess here - never gets washed/cleaned
and they will throw anything that says coffee on it and run water over
it.  I would drink Diet Coke before I took a  drink of that
nastiness...
Tells you we are WAY to freaking comfortable in a war zone that I have
the luxury of fresh coffee every day - just my opinion - most Marines
like it when it sucks more then less...
Sean
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8) From: Sandy Andina
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NO! It's a POS--very few people I know who bought one could get  
anything other than super-coarse grind out of it no matter how hard  
they try.  I think the threads on most of them that allow the burrs  
to move together and apart are defective right out of the box.
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NO! It's a POS--very few people I know who bought one could get anything =
other than super-coarse grind out of it no matter how hard they try.  I =
think the threads on most of them that allow the burrs to move together =
and apart are defective right out of the box.
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2007, at 11:55 AM, Rob Piirainen wrote:
= My guess is a $20 Melitta burr grinder = would be better than a whirly, you can calibrate it for finer grind, = also an Aeropress with it's paper filter is more tolerant of a poor = grind.

9) From: Pat Murray
Is this the only time in your life that you are going to travel???  Spend a
few more bucks and find a better grinder on Ebay.  It'll pay off in the long
run.
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10) From: raymanowen
"a $20 Melitta burr grinder would be better than a whirly, you can calibrate
it for finer grind... also an Aeropress with it's paper filter is more
tolerant of a poor grind."
The exact quality of a $20 "burr" grinder is difficult to document;
inspection of the grind might disprove it. I couldn't question the tolerance
of the AP for crummy grind quality. If so, it's your only salvation!
I can't imagine you'd want to brew "play coffee" with your carefully roasted
beans, in whatever brewer.
You go right ahead and feed your AP with a toy grinder. There's probably
adequate space for one in a child's play house. When I get an AP, I'll feed
it with the fully adjustable grinder that almost costs me an extra parking
space.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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11) From: Rob Piirainen
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Here's the calibration instructions I followed fron a review at Amazon.com:
Melitta grinder calibration to obtain adequate grinds:
"First, unplug the grinder and leave the top-grinding burr in place. Inside
the whole-bean hopper you'll find 3 Phillip's head screws -- unscrew these
to remove the hopper, and then carefully lift off the black plastic top of
the grinder. Inside you'll see another Phillip's screw on top of the
fineness adjustment wheel -- turn the wheel to 16 and unscrew the screw to
disengage the gears. Put a dab of Whiteout on the gear around the grinding
mechanism so that you know what the original setting was. Now you can turn
the grinding mechanism clockwise to bring the two grinding wheels closer
together. Turn clockwise until the burrs are actually touching, and you
can't turn any more, then turn counter-clockwise an eighth or a quarter of a
turn so that the burrs don't actually touch each other (you want to grind
coffee, not the metal on the burrs). Now lift and turn the fineness
adjustment wheel to "16" and screw it back in. Reassemble the grinder and
run some coffee through it to check the fineness of the grind."
I recommend after reassembly to start at a coarse grind & bring it finer
step by step until you here the burrs hit, then back off a notch. With the
Aeropress I got decent coffee with this grind, not with a french press,
bought a Zass for that.
For some perspective I've not seen here yet some of the best coffee I've
ever had is a few nights into a Rocky, Great Smokies, or Porcupine Mountain
backpacking trip or during  off shore yacht races, Folgers tea bag cofee,
everything is relative, extreme exertion & cold temps do wonders for the
sences.
I did do the Melitta Grinder / Aeropress test at rest at home, so that's
calibrated for relative civilization.
Rob P.
LV, TX

12) From: Brett Mason
I just leave my zass unplugged, all the time ...
2 sense
B
On 10/2/07, Rob Piirainen  wrote:
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13) From: Sandy Andina
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Darn.  I thought it was a POS and left it in the motel room up in  
Marquette for the chambermaid to figure out. Life's too short to  
waste trying to mod a twenty-buck Chinese hunk of plastic.
On Oct 2, 2007, at 10:46 PM, Rob Piirainen wrote:
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Darn.  I thought it was a POS and left it in the motel room up in =
Marquette for the chambermaid to figure out. Life's too short to waste =
trying to mod a twenty-buck Chinese hunk of plastic.
On Oct =
2, 2007, at 10:46 PM, Rob Piirainen wrote:
= Here's the calibration instructions I = followed fron a review at Amazon.com:   Melitta = grinder calibration to obtain adequate grinds:"First, = unplug the grinder and leave the top-grinding burr in place. Inside the = whole-bean hopper you'll find 3 Phillip's head screws -- unscrew these = to remove the hopper, and then carefully lift off the black plastic top = of the grinder. Inside you'll see another Phillip's screw on top of the = fineness adjustment wheel -- turn the wheel to 16 and unscrew the screw = to disengage the gears. Put a dab of Whiteout on the gear around the = grinding mechanism so that you know what the original setting was. Now = you can turn the grinding mechanism clockwise to bring the two grinding = wheels closer together. Turn clockwise until the burrs are actually = touching, and you can't turn any more, then turn counter-clockwise an = eighth or a quarter of a turn so that the burrs don't actually touch = each other (you want to grind coffee, not the metal on the burrs). Now = lift and turn the fineness adjustment wheel to "16" and screw it back = in. Reassemble the grinder and run some coffee through it to check the = fineness of the grind."I recommend after reassembly to start at a = coarse grind & bring it finer step by step until you here the burrs = hit, then back off a notch. With the Aeropress I got decent coffee with = this grind, not with a french press, bought a Zass for = that.For some perspective I've not seen here = yet some of the best coffee I've ever had is a few nights into a = Rocky, Great Smokies, or Porcupine Mountain backpacking = trip or during  off shore yacht races, Folgers tea bag = cofee, everything is relative, extreme exertion & cold temps do = wonders for the sences. I did do the Melitta Grinder / Aeropress = test at rest at home, so that's calibrated for relative = civilization.

 

Rob P.LV, TX

14) From: Rob Piirainen
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While you were in God's Country you should have stuck your head outside of
that motel room, it might have cleared your head. Life is to short to waste
any more time on the likes of you, the wind & surf will be back soon, I've
learned all I can here, wich wasn't much, except how mean and petty some
people can be.
Rob P.
LV, TX

15) From: David
Couldn't you just remove/break the stop under the
adjustment wheel?  Just a thought.
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16) From: Brett Mason
Rob, I can't believe anyone would not appreciate an upgrade to a $20 grinder
to improve their coffee's taste...  I trust this has worked for you - maybe
you can elaborate on the comparison between grinders?
Thx,
Brett
On 10/3/07, Rob Piirainen  wrote:
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17) From: Floyd Lozano
Not sure what set that off.  Maybe the implication that Chinese goods were
not quality?  I thought Sandy was just trying to say 'if i knew it was that
easy to fix, i would have fixed it and had a decent 20 buck grinder'.
-F
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18) From: Justin Marquez
Rob,
We are sorry that you have been offended.  There is a lot to learn here from
many people... including the lovely and talented Sandy Andina.  If you stick
around, perhaps you will gain a better feel for the folks hereabouts and
understand the occasional goofy-sense-of-humor remarks.
This is sometimes more of a "virtual coffeehouse" than a total coffee geek
experience (although sometimes it assuredly IS "coffee geeks on parade").
The experience is worth more than the sum of its parts. (Which quite
possibly is not true of a $20 burr grinder.)
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 10/3/07, Rob Piirainen  wrote:
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19) From: W. Simon
Hi Rob,
I have to ditto what Justin said.  This list is much like life: there is
good and bad.  Fortunately, email has some great features that we are not
afforded in life.  You can filter out some of the things you find
objectionable.  I'm not even a little ashamed to admit that I have a filter
that contains a good sized number of members of this list.  That filter
immediately deletes each and every post from those members.  I don't claim
to be a poster child for diplomacy.  However, there are some people that are
intentionally contrary.  There are others that are 100% sure that they are
right; even if it means they run over you in the process.  Learn how to use
those filters to make your day better.
Wes
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20) From: Sandy Andina
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Rob, I was not trying to be mean to you. A few months back, there was  
a thread about this grinder and how almost nobody was able to get the  
thing to work. Despite the warnings, I bought it because it was only  
$20 and the coffeehouse that was selling it was going through some  
exceedingly hard times (and I thought maybe I could have scored the  
one out of three that actually did work as advertised).   I hardly  
spent any time in that motel room (Marquette, MI, not WI) at all--I  
was up there playing an outdoor folk festival and took a motel  
because I am too old and arthritic to sleep on the ground in a  
sleeping bag in a tent (don't own a camper or trailer, have nowhere  
to put it and can't afford all the gas it'd take). For the record, I  
travel with a good manual grinder and bought the Melitta to help out  
a friend in dire financial straits--and left it behind because it did  
not work and  I have some excellent grinders at home.  If you had  
been on the list--or if you were, had you bothered to post your  
suggested modifications back then--I would have saved them, taken the  
grinder home, followed the directions and perhaps salvaged it. But  
you didn't--or hadn't joined this list.  None of the suggestions  
anyone else offered worked. Therefore, I (correctly at the time)  
deemed the thing useless and not worth taking up space in my coffee kit.
And *you* need to learn not to take everything literally. If I was  
being mean to anyone it's to Melitta, China's manufacturing standards  
and venal corporations that outsource without weighing the  
consequences.  I HAVEN'T "learned all I can here," as I learn  
something new and useful nearly every day because I can recognize  
when people are joking--but I HAVE learned how irony-challenged,  
humorless and literal some people can be.
On Oct 3, 2007, at 2:06 AM, Rob Piirainen wrote:
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Sandy
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Rob, I was not trying to be mean to you. A few months back, there was a =
thread about this grinder and how almost nobody was able to get the =
thing to work. Despite the warnings, I bought it because it was only $20 =
and the coffeehouse that was selling it was going through some =
exceedingly hard times (and I thought maybe I could have scored the one =
out of three that actually did work as advertised).   I hardly spent =
any time in that motel room (Marquette, MI, not WI) at all--I was up =
there playing an outdoor folk festival and took a motel because I am too =
old and arthritic to sleep on the ground in a sleeping bag in a tent =
(don't own a camper or trailer, have nowhere to put it and can't afford =
all the gas it'd take). For the record, I travel with a good manual =
grinder and bought the Melitta to help out a friend in dire financial =
straits--and left it behind because it did not work and  I have some =
excellent grinders at home.  If you had been on the list--or if you =
were, had you bothered to post your suggested modifications back then--I =
would have saved them, taken the grinder home, followed the directions =
and perhaps salvaged it. But you didn't--or hadn't joined this list. =
 None of the suggestions anyone else offered worked. Therefore, I =
(correctly at the time) deemed the thing useless and not worth taking up =
space in my coffee kit. 
And *you* need to learn = not to take everything literally. If I was being mean to anyone it's to = Melitta, China's manufacturing standards and venal corporations that = outsource without weighing the consequences.  I HAVEN'T "learned all I = can here," as I learn something new and useful nearly every day because = I can recognize when people are joking--but I HAVE learned how = irony-challenged, humorless and literal some people can = be. On Oct 3, 2007, at 2:06 AM, Rob Piirainen = wrote:
While you were in God's = Country you should have stuck your head outside of that motel room, it = might have cleared your head. Life is to short to waste any more time on = the likes of you, the wind & surf will be back soon, I've learned = all I can here, wich wasn't much, except how mean and petty some people = can be.   = Rob P. LV, TX

21) From: Sandy Andina
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EXACTLY, Floyd!
On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Floyd Lozano wrote:
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EXACTLY, Floyd!
On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Floyd Lozano =
wrote:
Not sure what set that off.  Maybe the implication = that Chinese goods were not quality?  I thought Sandy was just trying = to say 'if i knew it was that easy to fix, i would have fixed it and had = a decent 20 buck grinder'. -F   On 10/3/07, Brett = Mason <homeroast> = wrote: Rob, I = can't believe anyone would not appreciate an upgrade to a $20 grinder to = improve their coffee's taste...  I trust this has worked for you - = maybe you can elaborate on the comparison between grinders? = Thx, Brett On = 10/3/07, Rob Piirainen <rpiirainen > wrote: = = While you = were in God's Country you should have stuck your head outside of that = motel room, it might have cleared your head. Life is to short to waste = any more time on the likes of you, the wind & surf will be back = soon, I've learned all I can here, wich wasn't much, except how mean and = petty some people can be.   = Rob = P. LV, TX Sandywww.sass-music.com
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