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Topic: IR2 Lid Problem (24 msgs / 1156 lines)
1) From: Larry Williams
On my last two roasts, the lid just came loose.  Anyone encountered this 
problem? 
Larry Williams
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2) From: Sandy Andina
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Constantly these days.  Slows down the roasts so I get fewer that run  
away from me.
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Constantly these days.  Slows down the roasts so I get fewer that run =
away from me.
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3) From: Chris Hardenbrook
Mine does this, too.  If you walk away during Cool cycle the lid can 
go ajar and throw beans about like it was some big celebration or 
something (how do I know this...).  Maria has fix on the web site 
using a bent nail dropped through a hole drilled thru both lid and 
plastic handle. Not too elegant, but practical true. Anyone come up 
with a better fix?
Chris in Hilo
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4) From: Robert Gulley
I was under the impression that this problem was fixed between the 
IR1 and the IR2?? So far my IR@ has not had the lid come loose.
R "keeping his fingers crossed " G
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5) From: Joseph Robertson
Larry,
That was the first thing I noticed after I attached the Vent hose connector.
I never had my lid come loose when roasting outside on the desk with no vent
hose attached. The long dryer vent metal hose seems to tweak or twist the
lid loose if I don't close the window tight enough on hose to hold things
still.
I don't blame the unit. Like I said, it only happens when I use the vent
hose. It never was a serious issue for me.
The real point here though is the lid does not lock very tight when it is
put on correctly.
JoeR
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6) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Is it the upper portion of the lid only or is it both portions? If it is the
upper only it is probably a loose fit and I have no suggestions. If it is
the entire uppers section that could be corrected. Under the portion of the
bottom lid that aligns with the handle you should see a wire loop attached.
Gently bend this loop away from the body of the lid allowing it to more
fully engage the keeper built into the upper portion of the handle.
hope this helps.
TerryT
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7) From: Rich M
Larry-
I started to have this problem after about 1 year with my IR2. In the  
end, it was a low-tech fix that helped. During the same time, I  
noticed my tried and true roasting profiles were taking the beans a  
lot darker than before. I washed the lid and "caraffe" after every  
roasting session, and it didn't look dirty or clogged. Then one day  
after running some cafiza cleaner through my Technivorm, I poured the  
used water/cleaner mix into a big bowl and soaked all the parts  
(except for the base!) in the liquid. I then scrubbed every nook and  
cranny and used the wire brush I got from SM to really do a thorough  
job. I didn't realize it but the coffee oils had built up and had  
been clogging the screens. An added bonus was that the lid no longer  
rattled off. Maybe the oils were just enough to create a problem with  
the connection-- I don't know. Now, profiles work again and lid  
doesn't come off.
Just to clarify, the part that was coming off for me was just the lid  
with the two screens, not the whole top of the unit. Good luck.
Rich M
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8) From: Robert D. Crawford
I was having a problem, not with the lid coming loose but with the chaff
screen bouncing around a bit.  This was allowing a lot of chaff to get
around the screen (the inserted part) and clog the lid screen.  I solved
this by taping together several pennies and placing them between the
chaff screen and the lid.  This might work to keep the lid from coming
off as well since mine fits pretty tightly.
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
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9) From: Joseph Robertson
Thanks Terry,
That is way more clear than my post. I didn't look that close because I new
I was causing it to come loose with my vent hose.
JoeR
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10) From: Robert Gulley
Thanks for the tip, Rich
I haven't had the problem yet, but now I will keep an eye on the screen!
RG
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11) From: Larry Williams
I called the service desk for IR2 and they said to bend the steel tabs 
up slightly.  This will tighten the lid to the pot.  Too difficult and 
risky.  I think I will drill a hole through the lid into the pot handle 
and put a pin through during roasting to secure the lid.  Thanks all.
Larry
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12) From: dsobcz716
I wouldn't call mine loose, but it isn't tight anymore.? Vibrates a little causing extra noise which makes it harder to hear cracks.? So I just hold it still with a pot holder when I get to that point.

13) From: MSMB
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If you are talking about the lid with the screen in it, yes, I have had this
problem.  On mine it is because the little raised portions that lock it in
place have broken off in a couple of spots.  Perhaps they melted.  In any
case I have a plastic container that is equal in height to my i-roast and I
place it right next to the roaster with a cast iron pan stretching across
the two onto the "lip" of the lid to hold it in place,  I do fear that the
cast iron pan, which gets hot, will conduct heat down.  Nevertheless, I can
still get some nice light roasts and when I have to order other parts I will
get a new lid.  
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I wouldn't call mine loose, but it isn't tight anymore.  Vibrates a little
causing extra noise which makes it harder to hear cracks.  So I just hold it
still with a pot holder when I get to that point.

14) From: JoAnne Phillips
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I'm sure glad you mentioned that.  I took mine all apart hunting the  
wire loop and couldn't find it.  I didn't know if I just didn't know  
what I was looking for or if something had been left out - I didn't  
buy this machine from the manufacturer.  But if the i-R1 didn't have  
it, that explains why I can't find it.  So far my lid seems nice and  
tight as there are tabs that you have to turn the lid to get under  
where they belong - then it seems very tight.
JoAnne in Tucson
On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Chris Hardenbrook wrote:
I believe an i-R1 does not have the wire loop you speak of. Perhaps  
that is an improvement made to the i-R2. The very top part of the lid  
that contains the screens can be modified to make it tighter (a bit  
of messing with mine makes it snap into place nicely). The larger top  
piece (lid base that receives the screened topmost part) is another  
issue.  I think the fix may be the tab-bending exercise, which does  
look problematic since the tabs are rather small and may be hard to  
bend evenly, or the bent-nail-in-a-hole method, which looks rather  
haywired, but doubtless will work.
Chris in Hilo

15) From: Sandy Andina
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When you say the lid is loose, are you talking about the lid that  
fits on the pot (which Hearthware calls a "chaff collector base") or  
about the lid that fits on top of that lid ("chaff collector lid")?   
The former is okay on my i-R2, but loose on the original i-R (and  
both of these crack and chip from the heat--I've been through three  
on my i-R and have had to order a new one for my i-R2). But the  
latter--that little lid with the screen inserts--has loosened from  
the chaff collector base on both my machines and jitters and chatters  
so much that it sometimes levitates and lets chaff blow all over the  
place (though that dished metal insert that fits between the chaff  
collector base and lid catches most of it).
On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Larry Williams wrote:
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When you say the lid is loose, =
are you talking about the lid that fits on the pot (which Hearthware =
calls a "chaff collector base") or about the lid that fits on top of =
that lid ("chaff collector lid")?  The former is okay on my i-R2, but =
loose on the original i-R (and both of these crack and chip from the =
heat--I've been through three on my i-R and have had to order a new one =
for my i-R2). But the latter--that little lid with the screen =
inserts--has loosened from the chaff collector base on both my machines =
and jitters and chatters so much that it sometimes levitates and lets =
chaff blow all over the place (though that dished metal insert that fits =
between the chaff collector base and lid catches most of =
it).
On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Larry Williams =
wrote:
I called the service desk for = IR2 and they said to bend the steel tabs up slightly.  This will tighten the lid to = the pot.  Too difficult = and risky.  I think I = will drill a hole through the lid into the pot handle and put a pin = through during roasting to secure the lid.  Thanks all. Chris Hardenbrook wrote: Mine does this, too.  If you walk away during Cool = cycle the lid can go ajar and throw beans about like it was some big = celebration or something (how do I know this...).  Maria has fix on the web site = using a bent nail dropped through a hole drilled thru both lid and = plastic handle. Not too elegant, but practical true. Anyone come up with = a better fix?  = . Chris in Hilo At 05:37 PM 10/3/2007, you wrote: Constantly these days.  Slows down the roasts so I = get fewer that run away from me.On Oct 3, = 2007, at 10:32 PM, Larry Williams wrote: On my last two roasts, the lid just came loose.  Anyone encountered this = problem?Larry Williams = homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings -- No virus = found in this outgoing message.Checked by = AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1044 - = Release Date: 10/2/2007 11:10 AM homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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16) From: Larry Williams
It's the chaff collector base.  I called the service rep back after 
deciding not to bend the tabs on the stainless steel band.  Waiting for 
a call back today to see what they say.
Larry
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17) From: Larry Williams
I spoke to the service rep this morning and they said that drilling the 
chaff collector base and pot handle to install a locking pin or nail 
will not invalidate the warranty.
Larry
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18) From: Joseph Robertson
Sandy,
I'm curious. Do you only roast outside? The reason I ask is, I only roast
inside with the hose vent and adaptor. I'm pretty sure I would have or
eventually would have the same problem of the lid coming loose if I was
roasting without my hose vent in place. When I clamp or squeeze the hose in
the casement window to hold it in place it also holds the lid on tight when
roasting and cooling.
JoeR
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19) From: Chris Hardenbrook
Surprising the amount of variation we're hearing about, fit-wise, 
with these manufactured machines.
Chris in Hilo
At 01:09 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
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20) From: Chris Hardenbrook
How often do you hear that? I take it as an admission they have a problem.
Chris in Hilo
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21) From: Sandy Andina
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I rarely roast outside--I roast in my kitchen with the door open  
(screen door and ceiling fan venting) or in the winter, in the  
bathroom (which does have a vent that goes to the outside as well as  
glass louvers on the window).  Never have used the hose vent option,  
as I hear the hose gets pretty hot (and I didn't feel like cutting a  
piece of plywood with a hole to replace my window screen).  Nobody in  
the house minds the smell anyway.
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I rarely roast outside--I roast in my kitchen with the door open (screen =
door and ceiling fan venting) or in the winter, in the bathroom (which =
does have a vent that goes to the outside as well as glass louvers on =
the window).  Never have used the hose vent option, as I hear the hose =
gets pretty hot (and I didn't feel like cutting a piece of plywood with =
a hole to replace my window screen).  Nobody in the house minds the =
smell anyway.
On Oct 5, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Joseph Robertson =
wrote:
Sandy, I'm curious. Do you only roast outside? The = reason I ask is, I only roast inside with the hose vent and adaptor. I'm = pretty sure I would have or eventually would have the same problem of = the lid coming loose if I was roasting without my hose vent in place. = When I clamp or squeeze the hose in the casement window to hold it in = place it also holds the lid on tight when roasting and cooling. = JoeR On 10/4/07, Sandy Andina <sandraandina> = wrote: When you say the lid is loose, are you talking = about the lid that fits on the pot (which Hearthware calls a "chaff = collector base") or about the lid that fits on top of that lid ("chaff = collector lid")?  The former is okay on my i-R2, but loose on the = original i-R (and both of these crack and chip from the heat--I've been = through three on my i-R and have had to order a new one for my i-R2). = But the latter--that little lid with the screen inserts--has loosened = from the chaff collector base on both my machines and jitters and = chatters so much that it sometimes levitates and lets chaff blow all = over the place (though that dished metal insert that fits between the = chaff collector base and lid catches most of it). On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:04 AM, = Larry Williams wrote: I called the service desk for IR2 and they said = to bend the steel tabs up slightly.   This will tighten = the lid to the pot.  Too difficult and risky.  = I think I will drill a hole through the lid into the pot handle = and put a pin through during roasting to secure the lid.   = Thanks all. Larry Chris Hardenbrook wrote: Mine does this, too.  If you walk = away during Cool cycle the lid can go ajar and throw beans about like it = was some big celebration or something (how do I know this...).   = Maria has fix on the web site using a bent nail dropped through a = hole drilled thru both lid and plastic handle. Not too elegant, but = practical true. Anyone come up with a better fix?  = . = Chris in Hilo At 05:37 = PM 10/3/2007, you wrote: Constantly these days.  Slows down = the roasts so I get fewer that run away from me.On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Larry Williams = wrote: = On my last two = roasts, the lid just came loose.  Anyone encountered this = problem? Larry Williams =homeroast mailing list http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailma=n/listinfo/homeroast To change = your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go = to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings -- No virus found in this outgoing message. = Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: = 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1044 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 11:10 = AM =homeroast mailing list =http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTochange your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings= Sandy = www.sandyandina.comwww.sass-music.com = = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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22) From: Ken Schillinger
I decided to try roasting a batch inside the kitchen yesterday afternoon 
where the electricity is at a full 120V even while the machine is running. I 
opened all of the windows during the roast but had to close them when I got 
called out to help with a water emergency (broken pipe) Right afterwards . I 
sprayed the whole house with Febreeze before I left, but the smell was still 
fairly strong this morning. I guess I won't be doing that inside again. I 
may need to build a small insulated box with a window of something, as my 
roaster has trouble with too cool of an environment.
Ken.

23) From: John Brown
and then here are some of us that like the fragrance of coffee roasting .
i let it permeate the whole house.
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24) From: Joseph Robertson
Chris,
So far issues like this are small for the return I get. I'm so sold on
roasting my own beans I would use a frying pan over a fire before I'd buy
store beans again. Finding and buying my IR2 on the floor of the Long Beach
SCAA convention last spring has changed my life and coffee habit forever.
I'm a hopeless fresh coffee hound.
JoeR
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