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Topic: Let's get the tradition going again. (13 msgs / 542 lines)
1) From: Jim Gundlach
A few years ago we started a tradition exchange.  The rules were that  
a member of the list would offer something coffee related to other  
members of the list.  List members would email the person making the  
offer OFF LIST asking to be entered in the tradition offering and the  
winner would be selected by some random device.   The only  
requirement on the part of those who enter is that they agree to keep  
the tradition going by offering something else coffee related to the  
list if they win.  We started by having the winner pay the shipping  
but that proved to be unnecessarily complex so the person offering  
the tradition pays the shipping except in cases where the shipping  
was excessive.  As I recall there was a case where someone offered  
their old espresso machine after they upgraded and it was stipulated  
in the offering that the winner would pay shipping.
Anyway, there has not been much tradition activity lately and there  
are many new members of the list so I thought I would try to get it  
going again with a Liberica offering.
When I roasted my first half pound of the India Anohki Liberica, I  
went to eBay and did a search on "Liberica"  and item #290158407172	  
came up.  I bought three Villeroy Boch ~Koffieblosem Coffea Liberica  
~ cups/mugs to celebrate this unique coffee experience.  And, since I  
now have a second pound of it coming, I got notice that it was  
shipped at 4:42 Pacific time today by Harvey, I have decided to make  
an offering of 1/4  of the second pound and one of the cups.  These  
cups are in a rare plant series created by Villeroy Boch and are in  
and of themselves relatively rare collectables so we have a offering  
of a rare cup recognizing a rare coffee with some of that coffee.    
If the winner is new to roasting and so wishes I will roast the  
coffee before sending.
Deadline for submission:  When Harvey shows up with my second pound  
of Anohki, I will select the winner.  It could be this Saturday  
afternoon or more likely Monday.  The selection process will be to  
use JMP, a statistical package, to calculate a random number for each  
entrant and the entrant with the highest random number will be the  
winner.
Again, the rules:  1) email me OFF LIST at pecanjim(at)bellsouth(dot) 
net and,  2) agree to offer something coffee related to the list  
under the same rules.  I will reply acknowledging that I have  
received your entrant.
pecan jim
      roasting in La Place, Alabama.  A place that is no longer an  
official place.

2) From: Chris Hardenbrook
Just to clarify, since I am new to the tradition: I understand this 
is a one-at-a-time offering from your description. In other words, 
you are offering something and interested parties should contact you 
off-list to be in the running. THEN, after a winner is randomly 
chosen, that winner must offer something up to the list and so the 
giving/sharing continues.  My clarification is concerned with the 
one-at-a-time aspect.
Not to mess with tradition, but what if you offered something and 
then non-randomly picked, from submittals from other members, what 
you what to trade for your offering?  It would not restrictive of 
when anything could be offered, and perhaps eliminate the rather low 
chance, admittedly, of some lucky folks getting randomly selected a 
disproportionate number of times while other unlucky folks (the 
congenitally doomed) whine in the corner because they, "never win 
anything!"  That plan, however, has the downside of eliminating the 
round-robin character of the tradition.
Just some thoughts...
Chris in Hilo
(definitely getting in on this great offer from pecan j)
At 05:31 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
FWIW the List has no "rules" against anyone giving away anything coffee
related in any manner they see fit at any time, "The Tradition" not
withstanding. 
Thanks Pecan Jim for re-initiating the venerable "Dave Huddle" Tradition of
which you were the first recipient. (And I the second from you:-)
Hmmm...wondering who the last recipient was that failed to make their List
offering to keep it going...
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4) From: Larry Johnson
Actually, Brandon Kolbe won the 3# of IMV that I offered (following my
winning Tim TenClay's offering of Kopi Luwak) and that was just a few weeks
ago. I had suggested to him, as was suggested to me, to wait 6-8 weeks
before returning the favor. If he's dragging his feet, it's my fault.
On 10/5/07, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
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No faults, seems apparently somewhere along the line the idea of a need to
wait crept in over the years. Early on sometimes a new offering was made the
same day received! No biggy, but why wait?
 
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ 
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Larry Johnson
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:44 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Let's get the tradition going again.
Actually, Brandon Kolbe won the 3# of IMV that I offered (following my
winning Tim TenClay's offering of Kopi Luwak) and that was just a few weeks
ago. I had suggested to him, as was suggested to me, to wait 6-8 weeks
before returning the favor. If he's dragging his feet, it's my fault. 
On 10/5/07, miKe mcKoffee  wrote: 
FWIW the List has no "rules" against anyone giving away anything coffee
related in any manner they see fit at any time, "The Tradition" not 
withstanding.
Thanks Pecan Jim for re-initiating the venerable "Dave Huddle" Tradition of
which you were the first recipient. (And I the second from you:-)
Hmmm...wondering who the last recipient was that failed to make their List 
offering to keep it going...
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must 
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/<Snip>
homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
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Larry J 

6) From: Jim Gundlach
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It appears that I was wrong when I thought the tradition was  
stalled.  When I switched from WildBlue satellite to bellsouth DSL,  
bellsouth automatically started a SPAM checking system and it started  
treating list email as SPAM and bounced it back causing my list  
membership to be canceled a couple of times before I figured out what  
was going on.  This latest tradition transaction must have taken  
place during one of those outages.  As I recall the tradition has run  
in the past with more than one thread so I see no harm in letting two  
run now.  There seems to be plenty of interest.  Also, I apologize to  
Larry and Brandon for possibly  implying that they were somehow  
neglecting the tradition.
     pecan jim
On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Larry Johnson wrote:
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It appears that I was wrong when =
I thought the tradition was stalled.  When I switched from WildBlue =
satellite to bellsouth DSL, bellsouth automatically started a SPAM =
checking system and it started treating list email as SPAM and bounced =
it back causing my list membership to be canceled a couple of times =
before I figured out what was going on.  This latest tradition =
transaction must have taken place during one of those outages.  As I =
recall the tradition has run in the past with more than one thread so I =
see no harm in letting two run now.  There seems to be plenty of =
interest.  Also, I apologize to Larry and Brandon for possibly  =
implying that they were somehow neglecting the tradition.    =
  pecan jim
On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Larry Johnson =
wrote:
Actually, Brandon Kolbe won the 3# of IMV that I offered = (following my winning Tim TenClay's offering of Kopi Luwak) and that was = just a few weeks ago. I had suggested to him, as was suggested to me, = to wait 6-8 weeks before returning the favor. If he's dragging his feet, = it's my fault. On 10/5/07, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona> = wrote: FWIW the = List has no "rules" against anyone giving away anything = coffee related in any manner they see fit at any time, "The = Tradition" not withstanding. Thanks Pecan Jim for = re-initiating the venerable "Dave Huddle" Tradition of which you were = the first recipient. (And I the second from you:-) Hmmm...wondering = who the last recipient was that failed to make their List offering = to keep it going... Pacific Northwest Gathering VI http://home.comcast.ne=t/~mckona/PNWGVI.htm Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee www.mcKonaKoffee.com URL to = Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc: http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimate= ly the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must = first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal = enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those = who have gone before. Sweet Maria's List - Searchable = Archives =http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/> -----Original = Message----- > From: homeroast-admin= s.sweetmarias.com > [mailto: = homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of > Chris = Hardenbrook > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:57 = AM > > Just to clarify, since I am new to the tradition: I = understand this > is a one-at-a-time offering from your = description. In other words, > you are offering something and = interested parties should contact you > off-list to be in the = running. THEN, after a winner is randomly > chosen, that winner = must offer something up to the list and so the > giving/sharing = continues.  My clarification is concerned with the > = one-at-a-time aspect. > > Not to mess with tradition, but = what if you offered something and > then non-randomly picked, from = submittals from other members, what > you what to trade for your = offering?  It would not restrictive of > when anything could = be offered, and perhaps eliminate the rather low > chance, = admittedly, of some lucky folks getting randomly selected a > = disproportionate number of times while other unlucky folks (the > = congenitally doomed) whine in the corner because they, "never = win > anything!"  That plan, however, has the downside of = eliminating the > round-robin character of the = tradition. > > Just some thoughts... > > Chris = in Hilo > (definitely getting in on this great offer from pecan = j) > > > At 05:31 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote: > = >A few years ago we started a tradition exchange.  The rules were = that > >a member of the list would offer something coffee = related to other > >members of the list.  List members = would email the person making the > >offer OFF LIST asking to = be entered in the tradition offering and the > >winner would be = selected by some random device.   The only > >requirement = on the part of those who enter is that they agree to keep > = >the tradition going by offering something else coffee related to = the > >list if they win.  We started by having the winner = pay the shipping > >but that proved to be unnecessarily complex = so the person offering > >the tradition pays the shipping = except in cases where the shipping > >was excessive.  As I = recall there was a case where someone offered > >their old = espresso machine after they upgraded and it was stipulated > = >in the offering that the winner would pay shipping. > = > > >Anyway, there has not been much tradition activity = lately and there > >are many new members of the list so I = thought I would try to get it > >going again with a Liberica = offering. > > > >When I roasted my first half pound of = the India Anohki Liberica, I > >went to eBay and did a search = on "Liberica"  and item #290158407172 > >came up.  I = bought three Villeroy Boch ~Koffieblosem Coffea Liberica > >~ = cups/mugs to celebrate this unique coffee experience.  And, since = I > >now have a second pound of it coming, I got notice that it = was > >shipped at 4:42 Pacific time today by Harvey, I have = decided to make > >an offering of 1/4  of the second pound = and one of the cups.  These > >cups are in a rare plant = series created by Villeroy Boch and are in > >and of = themselves relatively rare collectables so we have a offering > = >of a rare cup recognizing a rare coffee with some of that = coffee. > >If the winner is new to roasting and so wishes I = will roast the > >coffee before sending. > > > = >Deadline for submission:  When Harvey shows up with my second = pound > >of Anohki, I will select the winner.  It could be = this Saturday > >afternoon or more likely Monday.  The = selection process will be to > >use JMP, a statistical = package, to calculate a random number for each > >entrant and = the entrant with the highest random number will be the > = >winner. > > > >Again, the rules:  1) email me = OFF LIST at > >pecanjim(at)bellsouth(dot) net and,  2) = agree to offer something > >coffee related to the list > = >under the same rules.  I will reply acknowledging that I = have > >received your entrant. > > > >pecan = jim > >      roasting in La Place, Alabama.  A = place that is no longer an > >official = place. homeroast= mailing list http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast To change your = personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to = =">http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
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7) From: gin
actually, the Tradition should be on going.
there are a few out there who simply have not fulfilled their obligation
in participation.
that is actually one of the reason I stopped offerings!
ginny

8) From: Larry Johnson
No harm, no foul. I assumed that you and MiKe both had missed the last one
somehow. No biggie. And, yeah; why not run 2 at once? Long as nobody gets
hurt....
On 10/5/07, Jim Gundlach  wrote:
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Larry J

9) From: Aaron Scholten
Jim and anyone who has bellsouth, heed this warning now...
You can add sweet maria's name to your 'allow' list,  tell them it's not 
spam and set up all the crap the way it is supposed to be, but it seems 
every month or so they change stuff, and even names that are in the 
'allowed' list get thrown into the spam bucket.  OR they will just 
bounce the mail right back to the sender, which causes sweet maria's 
mail server to no notice automatically unsubscribe you.
The other alternative would be to allow ALL mail, which is a horrible 
mistake because then you get a ton of crap.   I have called them and 
complained to them numerous times about this but it's a bunch of F ing 
idiots at that place... especially now that bellsouth is AT&T... yes 
sadly ATT bought them out and the service has taken a serious nosedive 
since that time.   ATT was kicked out of jacksonville several years ago 
because they basically totally defaulted and screwed up royally on 
custmer service when they took over the cable modem side of the house... 
now they are trying it again with DSL and phone lines, and I already see 
serious signs of the same sad story.
Id seriously recommend getting a 3rd party e mail account,  g mail, hot 
mail as an example and set it up that way.  For a while there my 
bellsouth account was getting cancelled probably two to three times a 
week, then I got G mail as a backup and so far, have not seen one 
problem with that account.
Aaron

10) From: Jim Gundlach
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On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Jim Gundlach wrote:
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Harvey did not make it today, the drawing will probably be Monday.
      pecan jim
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On Oct 4, 2007, at =
10:31 PM, Jim Gundlach wrote:

Deadline for = submission:  When Harvey = shows up with my second pound of Anohki, I will select the winner.  It could be this Saturday = afternoon or more likely Monday.  = The selection process will be to use JMP, a statistical package, = to calculate a random number for each entrant and the entrant with the = highest random number will be the winner.

= Harvey did not make it today, the drawing = will probably be Monday.
     pecan = jim= --Apple-Mail-3-799609092--

11) From: raymanowen
One of the non-Rules I have violated was not to reciprocate an
offering after miKe sent me a wonderful melange roast of his Kona
coffee. (I actually did switch grinders at the time and gave my Solis
MP and Bodum Antigua grinders to a couple of friends, not list
members.) GUILTY.
Actually, I have an offering in mind, so I'll soon redeem myself und
entschultigen Sie mir, bitte.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On 10/5/07, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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12) From: Brandon Kolbe
Hi Jim,
     No offense taken.  I am trying to come up with something that I can
pass on for the next tradition offering.  The tradition is such a wonderful
thing.  I want to do my part to be sure it continues on.
Happy Roasting,
Brandon
On 10/5/07, Jim Gundlach  wrote:
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With our thoughts,
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13) From: Jim Gundlach
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I just went to the mailbox and found no mail.  Realized that this is  
Columbus Day, the day Harvey celebrates the failure of the Native  
Americans to have an adequate immigration policy by not working and  
not delivering the greens that closes the Liberica coffee and mug  
offering.  I will still accept entries until the mail arrives tomorrow.
       pecan jim
On Oct 6, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Jim Gundlach wrote:
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I just went to the mailbox and =
found no mail.  Realized that this is Columbus Day, the day Harvey =
celebrates the failure of the Native Americans to have an adequate =
immigration policy by not working and not delivering the greens that =
closes the Liberica coffee and mug offering.  I will still accept =
entries until the mail arrives tomorrow.      pecan =
jim
On Oct 6, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Jim Gundlach =
wrote:
On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Jim Gundlach = wrote:
Deadline for = submission:  When Harvey = shows up with my second pound of Anohki, I will select the winner.  It could be this Saturday = afternoon or more likely Monday.  = The selection process will be to use JMP, a statistical package, = to calculate a random number for each entrant and the entrant with the = highest random number will be the winner. = Harvey did not make it today, the drawing = will probably be Monday.
     pecan = jim = --Apple-Mail-5-961930274--


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