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Topic: Coffee Education (6 msgs / 224 lines)
1) From: Les
As per Mike McKoffee's suggestion I bought the WBC Championship blend.
 It sure was strange grinding and brewing coffee that I didn't roast
myself!  Sure I have done it before, but this was special.  Coffee was
roasted 5 days ago.  I was amazed that it wasn't roasted dark!  I
think we are having an influence.  Pre-grind aroma was good, but not
spectacular.  I ground it and gave it another sniff test.  Yes, a very
nice complex blend.  I could smell some good fruit notes and nice
complex coffee smells.  I pulled my first shot and it was a bit short.
 I made that into a Cappo for Becky.  She said it wasn't as good as
the one yesterday.  That sure made me feel good.  Yesterday's shot was
a blend of India tree dried, India Libercia, and Idido Misty Valley.
I pulled a perfect double for myself.  However the temp was a bit
high, so it became a sink shot.  The second shot I started at 203 and
it was wonderful.  The third was a ristretto.  I was a bit
disappointed at the thickness of the ristretto.  Volume was perfect,
but was a bit thin compared to others.  Flavor of both the double shot
and ristretto was excellent.  Thanks Mike for suggesting this order.
It was fun pulling shots with this excellent coffee.  I am sure I will
have more fun with it before the pound is gone.  However, I don't like
just excellent anymore.  I want spectacular.  Yesterday I had
spectacular coffee.  Can it be repeated?  Yes for a very limited time.
 Since I only have to please myself (and Becky), I must confess I find
a SO of Ido Misty Valley better than this blend.  Am I glad that I
ordered this blend?  You better believe it!  I really do like it.  I
like it as a great coffee.  I like it because it tells me that my
homeroasts are really good and I don't have to play second fiddle to
anyone.  I like it because I know I am going to learn a lot from this
coffee as I go through the pound.  In my opinion, it really isn't a
huge step up from Stumptown's Hairbender blend.  I like it better.  I
have had some blends from Barefoot Roaster and Blue Bottle that I
liked better.  I want to emphasis the ego here, I liked them better.
If I needed to have a coffee to serve to a dozen people the WBC
Championship blend would be at the top of my list.  This is one good
pleaser coffee.  That said, I will continue to be a homeroast snob and
enjoy those blends that turn my crank.  Well, I am off to pull another
shot of this good stuff.  Last off to all you fellow homeroasters.
Keep up the good work.  This is good, but I have had as good or better
from some of you!
Les

2) From: john irwin
Les, thanks for the follow up and congrats on your fantastic roast.
The "compared to" analysis works well to gauge homeroast progress. Garage 
pales have consumed many roasted blunders.
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3) From: Leo Zick
MMMMMM, blue bottle roman espresso blend... now thats some fine stuff
On 10/9/07, john irwin  wrote:
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4) From: Woody DeCasere
espresso is a tricky subject though, i like SO shots a lot because of
character and the different tastes, but others are freaked out by them, fo
example last week i roasted some yirg, city to city + rested it a day or so
and pulled some shots with it, WOW instant lemon tea zester, really bright
and flowery, i loved it, my wife liked it in a capp (try to keep it proper
proportions) but others were really turned off by it. Now my wife and i are
real fresh roasted coffee snobs, our friends love the fresh coffee, but when
it comes to espresso most peoples palette lean towards rich roasty flavors,
so a commercial espresso blend IMO needs to be able to please both the
espresso enthusiast, as well as the casual capp drinker. Espresso blending
to me is such an elusive art, when you find that perfect blend it's like the
clouds part and the sun shines directly on you, miraculous.
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On 10/8/07, Les  wrote:
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-- 
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Indeed the Dark Side is a tricky subject. I was into virtually strictly SO
espresso the first 3 years of my journey. Only the past couple years started
really appreciating and beginning to understand complexities that can be
attained through blending which aren't possible with SO espresso. Kind of
funny (to me) how my personal journey in some ways seems opposite the more
commercial Third Wave that seems to have only more recently began SO
espresso explorations. FWIW (and it ain't much) IMO there is and will never
be one perfect espresso, be it SO or blend. Thank goodness!
 
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From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Woody DeCasere
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:01 PM
espresso is a tricky subject though, i like SO shots a lot because of
character and the different tastes, but others are freaked out by them, fo
example last week i roasted some yirg, city to city + rested it a day or so
and pulled some shots with it, WOW instant lemon tea zester, really bright
and flowery, i loved it, my wife liked it in a capp (try to keep it proper
proportions) but others were really turned off by it. Now my wife and i are
real fresh roasted coffee snobs, our friends love the fresh coffee, but when
it comes to espresso most peoples palette lean towards rich roasty flavors,
so a commercial espresso blend IMO needs to be able to please both the
espresso enthusiast, as well as the casual capp drinker. Espresso blending
to me is such an elusive art, when you find that perfect blend it's like the
clouds part and the sun shines directly on you, miraculous. 
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On 10/8/07, Les  wrote: 
As per Mike McKoffee's suggestion I bought the WBC Championship blend.
It sure was strange grinding and brewing coffee that I didn't roast
myself!  Sure I have done it before, but this was special.  Coffee was 
roasted 5 days ago.  I was amazed that it wasn't roasted dark!  I
think we are having an influence.  Pre-grind aroma was good, but not
spectacular.  I ground it and gave it another sniff test.  Yes, a very
nice complex blend.  I could smell some good fruit notes and nice
complex coffee smells.  I pulled my first shot and it was a bit short.
I made that into a Cappo for Becky.  She said it wasn't as good as
the one yesterday.  That sure made me feel good.  Yesterday's shot was 
a blend of India tree dried, India Libercia, and Idido Misty Valley.
I pulled a perfect double for myself.  However the temp was a bit
high, so it became a sink shot.  The second shot I started at 203 and
it was wonderful.  The third was a ristretto.  I was a bit 
disappointed at the thickness of the ristretto.  Volume was perfect,
but was a bit thin compared to others.  Flavor of both the double shot
and ristretto was excellent.  Thanks Mike for suggesting this order.
It was fun pulling shots with this excellent coffee.  I am sure I will
have more fun with it before the pound is gone.  However, I don't like
just excellent anymore.  I want spectacular.  Yesterday I had
spectacular coffee.  Can it be repeated?  Yes for a very limited time. 
Since I only have to please myself (and Becky), I must confess I find
a SO of Ido Misty Valley better than this blend.  Am I glad that I
ordered this blend?  You better believe it!  I really do like it.  I
like it as a great coffee.  I like it because it tells me that my 
homeroasts are really good and I don't have to play second fiddle to
anyone.  I like it because I know I am going to learn a lot from this
coffee as I go through the pound.  In my opinion, it really isn't a 
huge step up from Stumptown's Hairbender blend.  I like it better.  I
have had some blends from Barefoot Roaster and Blue Bottle that I
liked better.  I want to emphasis the ego here, I liked them better.
If I needed to have a coffee to serve to a dozen people the WBC
Championship blend would be at the top of my list.  This is one good
pleaser coffee.  That said, I will continue to be a homeroast snob and
enjoy those blends that turn my crank.  Well, I am off to pull another 
shot of this good stuff.  Last off to all you fellow homeroasters.
Keep up the good work.  This is good, but I have had as good or better
from some of you!
Les-- 
"And we'd better not risk another frontal assault, that rabbit's dynamite!!"http://www.decasere.blogspot.com/

6) From: Tom Ulmer
SO or blend... It's only perfect for that one fleeting moment.


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