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Topic: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do commercial roasters roast so dark?) (26 msgs / 894 lines)
1) From: Dan Bollinger
Hello, My name is Dan Bollinger, and I am a coffee snob.
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2) From: Les
I forgot one commercial roaster that I really like.  It is called
Sweet Marias.  If you want to test your homeroast, order some from
Sweet Marias and roast the same bean on the same day.  You can't get a
more head to head comparison of how good your roast is compared to a
commercial roaster since you are roasting the same bean from the same
lot of coffee!  Sweet Marias used to have a saying, but I couldn't
find it on the website this morning, "Great coffee comes from Tiny
Roasters."
Les
On 10/16/07, Dan Bollinger  wrote:
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3) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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And knowing is the first step to enlightenment   I mean recovery
 
Dennis

4) From: Dave
Why would I want to recover?
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On 10/16/07, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)  wrote:
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5) From: Robert D. Crawford
"True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)"  writes:
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I thought knowing was half the battle.
rdc
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BOFH excuse #142:
new guy cross-connected phone lines with ac power bus.

6) From: Eddie Dove
"Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
is at the bottom of emails from sweetmarias_at_sweetmarias_dot_com
address that Tom, Maria, et al use.
Eddie
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Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 10/16/07, Les  wrote:
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7) From: Brett Mason
I am a snob.
I am a connoisseur.
I am a great roaster.
I have paid my dues.
I legitimately opine.
  Yeah, and most rooasters' roast sux.
Brett
On 10/16/07, Eddie Dove  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

8) From: Jim Gundlach
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I have probably spent at least half as much time and effort in  
achieving my right to claim to be a coffee snob as I did to earn my  
PhD.  I am not about to abandon it.  Actually one goal is to keep  
working at until I know I have exceeded the PhD effort.
       pecan jim - coffee snob and proud of it.
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:11 AM, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote:
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I have probably spent at least =
half as much time and effort in achieving my right to claim to be a =
coffee snob as I did to earn my PhD.  I am not about to abandon it.  =
Actually one goal is to keep working at until I know I have exceeded the =
PhD effort.      pecan jim - coffee snob and proud of =
it.      
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And knowing is = the first step to enlightenment   I mean recovery Dennis


9) From: David Martin
I, for one, am not a snob.
According to American Heritage Dictionary, "snob" is defined as:
  "One who affects an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in
matters of taste or intellect."
which, of course, definitely doesn't describe me.
At any rate, I prefer my own definition:
  " 'Snob' is a term used by insecure low-brow knuckle-draggers to
refer to those who exhibit a higher aesthetic sensibility. "
:-)

10) From: Rich
Yep, thanks to the high level of K-12 education and mass media your definition is the common usage of 
the word snob.  The dictionary definition is almost unknown.
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11) From: Sandy Andina
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Sandy Andina, proud to be a coffee snob.
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Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
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Sandy Andina, proud to be a coffee snob.
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at 7:55 AM, Dan Bollinger wrote:
Hello, My name is Dan Bollinger, and I am a coffee = snob. = Yes, I am a snob, Les = homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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12) From: Dave
OK, I'll own either one of those;-)
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Dave
Some days...
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13) From: Sandy Andina
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On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:36 AM, David Martin wrote:
Snob defined as:
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What if one's taste or intellect truly IS superior? No affectation  
necessary, and any offense is in the eye (and ego) of the beholder. I  
prefer your own definition:
  " 'Snob' is a term used by insecure low-brow knuckle-draggers to
refer to those who exhibit a higher aesthetic sensibility. "
Now, I don't intend to offend those who exhibit what seems at first  
blush a lower aesthetic sensibility, but who do know the difference  
yet prefer (for reasons of nostalgia, economy, food sensitivities or  
anomalous distribution of taste buds) those simpler tastes:  they are  
the first, like a friend of mine, to good-naturedly acknowledge the  
difference between connoiseurs and "sewers," unapologetically  
aligning themselves with the latter.
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
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On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:36 AM, David Martin =
wrote:Snob defined as:

 "One who affects an offensive = air of self-satisfied superiority in

matters of taste or = intellect."

What if one's taste or = intellect truly IS superior? No affectation necessary, and any offense = is in the eye (and ego) of the beholder. I prefer your own = definition: " 'Snob' is a term used by = insecure low-brow knuckle-draggers torefer to = those who exhibit a higher aesthetic sensibility. "
Now, I don't intend to offend = those who exhibit what seems at first blush a lower aesthetic = sensibility, but who do know the difference yet prefer (for reasons of = nostalgia, economy, food sensitivities or anomalous distribution of = taste buds) those simpler tastes:  they are the first, like a friend = of mine, to good-naturedly acknowledge the difference between = connoiseurs and "sewers," unapologetically aligning themselves with the = latter. Sandywww.sass-music.com
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14) From: Brett Mason
Hi Jeff,
I think you already qualify as a member of this group...  I for one am glad
you are here!
We have two dynamics that each of us on the list have attained:
  1. We each truly like our own coffee, and can seem to duplicate the coffee
roasting required to maintain such "likeability."; and,
  2. We each yearn to be much better at this sport - knowing what we know,
we recognize there is so much more we don't know...
So, dude, you're in!
For fun, go to your closest coffee house, order an espresso, and then come
back to the list and explain that it wasn't sour and bitter.  Can't be done,
because the local houses generally could care less and don't know...  See, I
am a snob.
And it's catching!
Brett
On 10/17/07, Jeff Anderson  wrote:
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Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

15) From: Brett Mason
For Starbucks, I go with their "Lightnote blends" or specialty beans, and
ask them to make a presspot for me.
Except for the 8 month expiration window on their beans, this is a
reasonable way to *$ ....
Courage - face the local roaster - courage, my boy!
Brett
On 10/17/07, Jeff Anderson  wrote:
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Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

16) From: Barry Luterman
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Actually here they have a mango ice-tea which is quite flavorful

17) From: Sandy Andina
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Jones Bros. soda pop.
On Oct 17, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Jeff Anderson wrote:
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Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
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Jones Bros. soda pop.
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Anderson wrote:
I guess when "treated" to *$$ in = the future, and can't graciously come up with an alternative, I'll have = to resort to a heavily flavored milk/coffee beverage of some kind. Any = suggestions? Double-mocha cappuccino, = maybe? Sandywww.sass-music.com
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18) From: Eddie Dove
"I understand very well that I don't qualify as a member of the group
yet, and that what I think has no standing. That's why I no longer
post or ask questions with regard to coffee."
You qualify and you are welcome here.  To quote someone from this
list, "[...] claim your space. No one can claim it for you and no one
can take it away from you.  Again, you are welcome here so please do
share your coffee experiences and ask many questions.
Now, as for Starbucks ... believe it or not, it is sometimes the place
I go for some "peace and quiet" to get some reading done; the one
local to me is in a Barnes and Noble book store.  I like to order
their brewed coffee and challenge myself to find and ponder varietal
flavors while I read.  Do not order the Kenya ...
Starbucks is in the process of building a stand-alone Starbucks in the
parking lot just outside the other Starbucks and I understand that
when the Starbucks is finished and both Starbucks are open, the void
between the two Starbucks will create a new nexus in the universe.
Eddie
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Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 10/17/07, Jeff Anderson  wrote:
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19) From: Larry Johnson
On 10/17/07, Eddie Dove  wrote
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At which point all the Starbucks will implode and become black holes.
LJ

20) From: Brian Kamnetz
On 10/17/07, Larry Johnson  wrote:
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Perhaps you mean, "At which point all the Starbucks will implode and
become charred, black holes."

21) From: Justin Marquez
There is a void between *$...?
They must not be done expanding yet.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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22) From: Larry Johnson
Just yesterday I told a friend, as we discussed my lack of
discrimination (a.k.a. snobbishness) in matters of taste that I put
the 'sewer' in 'connoisseur'.
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23) From: Dave Kvindlog
Hello.  My name is Dave Kvindlog, and I too am a coffee snob.
I sometimes run out of my morning brew, brewed at home, and find myself
desperately longing for another cuppa joe at work.  We have a coffee shop in
the facility, much better than *$$, not nearly as good as my homeroast.
I found myself in such a desperate position this morning and made my way
down the hall to the coffee stand.  The gal working the stand was unpacking
supplies and I asked if I could see their beans sometime.  She pulled out
the espresso beans and I looked them over.  FC+ for the regular, Vienna for
the decaf.  Did a bean crunch and about spewed.  Flat and bitter.  None of
the flavors I'm used to that knock my socks off when I do a bean crunch at
home.
I'm asking for a set of grind & brew equipment for my office this
Christmas.  After all, coffee snobs deserve and demand only the best brew.
Ours!
Dave
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24) From: Les
Dave,
I have a Zass and one of the neat little pour over brewers that Tom stocks
at work.  I keep a one-way valve foil bag of coffee in the office.  I nuke
filtered water to the boiling point as my water supply for my fresh cup of
office coffee.  I was going to have my SAMA espresso machine at work, but
the fire codes won't allow it.
Les
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25) From: Sandy Andina
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I used, long ago, to keep a Rotel steam toy (which I got at a home- 
goods superstore for $29.95) and whirley-blade at my office--but for  
the few clients who wanted espresso and/or cappuccino it was a  
colossal PITA to make and clean up, for mediocre results (about as  
good as Charbucks today). I don't go into the office very often any  
more as I mostly telecommute, go to court, or make "house calls" to  
clients when I can (I do much more music than lawyering these days)  
so a French press and that whirley fills the bill at the office. I'm  
the only one on staff who drinks coffee after the first cup of the  
morning anyway; and I only come in after lunch.   Less than 5% of all  
my coffee drinking takes place at the office anyway, so the weak link  
in the equation (the grinder) isn't weak enough to be a dealbreaker.
On Oct 19, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Les wrote:
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Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
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I used, long ago, to keep a Rotel steam toy (which I got at a home-goods =
superstore for $29.95) and whirley-blade at my office--but for the few =
clients who wanted espresso and/or cappuccino it was a colossal PITA to =
make and clean up, for mediocre results (about as good as Charbucks =
today). I don't go into the office very often any more as I mostly =
telecommute, go to court, or make "house calls" to clients when I can (I =
do much more music than lawyering these days) so a French press and that =
whirley fills the bill at the office. I'm the only one on staff who =
drinks coffee after the first cup of the morning anyway; and I only come =
in after lunch.   Less than 5% of all my coffee drinking takes place =
at the office anyway, so the weak link in the equation (the grinder) =
isn't weak enough to be a dealbreaker.
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12:36 PM, Les wrote:
Dave, I have a Zass and one of the neat = little pour over brewers that Tom stocks at work.  I keep a one-way = valve foil bag of coffee in the office.  I nuke filtered water to the = boiling point as my water supply for my fresh cup of office coffee.  I = was going to have my SAMA espresso machine at work, but the fire codes = won't allow it.   Les   = On 10/19/07, Dave Kvindlog <ihomeroast> = wrote: = Hello.  My name is Dave Kvindlog, and I too am a coffee = snob.   I sometimes run out of my morning brew, = brewed at home, and find myself desperately longing for another cuppa = joe at work.  We have a coffee shop in the facility, much better than = *$$, not nearly as good as my homeroast.   I = found myself in such a desperate position this morning and made my way = down the hall to the coffee stand.  The gal working the stand was = unpacking supplies and I asked if I could see their beans sometime.  = She pulled out the espresso beans and I looked them over.  FC+ for the = regular, Vienna for the decaf.  Did a bean crunch and about spewed.  = Flat and bitter.  None of the flavors I'm used to that knock my socks = off when I do a bean crunch at home.   I'm = asking for a set of grind & brew equipment for my office this = Christmas.  After all, coffee snobs deserve and demand only the best = brew.  Ours!   Dave   = On 10/16/07, Dan Bollinger <danbollinger > wrote: = Hello, My name is Dan = Bollinger, and I am a coffee snob. > Yes, I am a snob, = Les homeroast = mailing list http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast= To change your personal list settings (digest options, = vacations, unsvbscribes) go to = =">http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings Sandywww.sass-music.com
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26) From: Dave Kvindlog
No, Jim.  I live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and work for Rockwell Collins.
The company has recently learned to take care of it's young engineers.  The
young software engineers stereotypically drink Mountain Dew, the rest go for
coffee.  Keep an engineer fed and caffinated and they'll produce wonderful
results!
Dave
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