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Topic: Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There?? (15 msgs / 929 lines)
1) From: James Raven
So where is this " Pacific Northwest Roasters Group located??  Where is cof=
fee more prevelent than the Pacific Northwest anyway?  Come-on lets get som=
e conversation going. Just looking to get more local than D.C. and IOWA!!! =
 Not ranking Virginia but rather looking for local. I bet you East Coasters=
 were sorry to see T&M move so far west, huh? Any suggestions on the best o=
f the 9 oz. top roasters on the market? I need the good ole honest info. i'=
m an old timer and want to get a new roaster, any help would be much apprec=
iated. 
North of Seattle Jim
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2) From: Timothy Knox
Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 06:17:03PM -0700, James Raven wrote:
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Well, this roaster is in Seattle, where the saying is, "We don't tan. We rust."
;-) I believe (from looking at the web page he sent out about the get-together)
that he is in the Vancouver area (as the T-shirt said: "Vancouver, not BC.
Washington, not DC.") but of course I could be wrong (and doubtless will be many
more times). Beyond that, I have no special knowledge w.r.t. new roasters.
Sorry. ;-)
-- 
Timothy Knox 
90% of everything is crud. And for software the other 10% is worse.
    -- Nicholas Clark

3) From: James Raven
yes you are wrong probably yet again, more from north seattle where we stil=
l rust as well. Where the so called espresso stands almost outnumber the ho=
mes, not Vancouver or BC. but have a good anyway. Whay type of gear do you =
use and where locally can it be acquired? Any knowledge on that? 
Good Summer for Rusting Mr. Knox, hope you got Mexico plans for winter, lik=
e the rest of us.
hava good
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s Raven wrote:
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offee more prevelent than the Pacific Northwest anyway? Come-on lets get so=
me conversation going. Just looking to get more local than D.C. and IOWA!!!=
 Not ranking Virginia but rather looking for local. I bet you East Coasters=
 were sorry to see T&M move so far west, huh? Any suggestions on the best o=
f the 9 oz. top roasters on the market? I need the good ole honest info. i'=
m an old timer and want to get a new roaster, any help would be much apprec=
iated.
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4) From: David
I am in Kent, I don't know of any place locally that
sells roasters or supplies, check craigslist.  I got
mine on there for $30, see some on there from time to
time, saw a Melitta roaster(baker) at Goodwill in
Seattle for $4, no top end though.
David
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5) From: James Raven
thanks David, I keep hearing about PNR out there but see any posts from the=
re / here.
hava good.
jim
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6) From: Joseph Robertson
James,
Would you be refering to:http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmI just got involved with these great folks last summer. Mike McKoffee has
been the host for some time now.
Watch for his posts. He is all over this list.
Cheers,
JoeR
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7) From: James Raven
Hey Joe,
Nice to keep getting responses to my post, glad to hear so many in the Stat=
e, where are you located, in general, wash, ore, BC, where? just curious.
Enjoy the Wired Feeling  :-)
From: theotherjo
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:51:07 -0700
James,
Would you be refering to:http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmI just got involved with these great folks last summer. Mike McKoffee has b=
een the host for some time now.
Watch for his posts. He is all over this list.
Cheers,
JoeR
On 10/18/07, James Raven > wrote:
thanks David, I keep hearing about PNR out there but see any posts from the=
re / here.
hava good.
jim
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8) From: Marty Wooten
James,
 
I have to agree with Joe - check out the link he provided.
 =
I have been around the list for a while (can't remember how long now) ev=
en though I have not posted regularly in a while and Indiana is certainly n=
ot any closer than Iowa, but just so you know, when you bring bring up the =
PNWG it can stir jealousy ;o) since there are those of us who have not been=
 able to fit in such a trip west to share in the fun and have had to live v=
icariously through those who get to attend such a wonderful get together. I=
 certainly appreciate all of the reports and pictures posted so we can shar=
e in the fun. 
It was a sad day when Sweet Maria's moved west (you had to=
 bring that up too didn't you), but having this list and Harvey has certain=
ly helped ease the pain. There have been many that have helped me from the =
start of my coffee journey (Mike McKoffee, Alchemist, RK, Les, Barry and so=
 many other names I should not have even started listing them) with what th=
ey have shared on and off list and continue to do so. It is a great group a=
nd I would encourage you to enjoy the opportunity if possible.
 
Marty=
----- Original Message ----
From: James Raven 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007=
 12:17:33 PM
Subject: RE: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??=
Hey Joe,
Nice to keep getting responses to my post, glad to h=
ear so many in the State, where are you located, in general, wash, ore, BC,=
 where? just curious.
Enjoy the Wired Feeling  :-)=
From: theotherjo
To: homeroast=
.sweetmarias.com
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There=
??
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:51:07 -0700
James,
Would you be refer=
ing to:http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmI just got involved =
with these great folks last summer. Mike McKoffee has been the host for som=
e time now.
Watch for his posts. He is all over this list.
Cheers,
Jo=
eR
On 10/18/07, James Raven > wrote:
thanks David, I keep hearing=
 about PNR out there but see any posts from there / here.
hava good.
ji=
m
> From: dink0617
> Subject: RE: +Pacific Northw=
est Roasters - Any Out There??
> To: homeroast
> =
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:08:02 -0700
>
> I am in Kent, I don't know of=
 any place locally that
> sells roasters or supplies, check craigslist. I=
 got
> mine on there for $30, see some on there from time to
> time, sa=
w a Melitta roaster(baker) at Goodwill in
> Seattle for $4, no top end th=
ough.
>
> David
> --- James Raven  wrote:
>
>>
>> yes you are w=
rong probably yet again, more from
>> north seattle where we still rust a=
s well. Where the
>> so called espresso stands almost outnumber the
>> =
homes, not Vancouver or BC. but have a good anyway.
>> Whay type of gear =
do you use and where locally can
>> it be acquired? Any knowledge on that=
?
>> Good Summer for Rusting Mr. Knox, hope you got
>> Mexico plans for=
 winter, like the rest of us.
>> hava good
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: tdk=
@thelbane.com
>>> To: homeroast
>>> Subject: Re: =
+Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out
>> There??
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct =
2007 18:43:57 -0700
>>>
>>> Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Wed, Oct 17, =
2007 at
>> 06:17:03PM -0700, James Raven wrote:
>>>> So where is this "=
 Pacific Northwest Roasters
>> Group located?? Where is coffee more preve=
lent than
>> the Pacific Northwest anyway? Come-on lets get some
>> con=
versation going. Just looking to get more local
>> than D.C. and IOWA!!! =
Not ranking Virginia but
>> rather looking for local. I bet you East Coas=
ters
>> were sorry to see T&M move so far west, huh? Any
>> suggestions=
 on the best of the 9 oz. top roasters on
>> the market? I need the good =
ole honest info. i'm an
>> old timer and want to get a new roaster, any h=
elp
>> would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Well, this roaster is in Se=
attle, where the saying
>> is, "We don't tan. We rust."
>>> ;-) I belie=
ve (from looking at the web page he
>> sent out about the get-together)=
>>> that he is in the Vancouver area (as the T-shirt
>> said: "Vancouv=
er, not BC.
>>> Washington, not DC.") but of course I could be
>> wrong=
 (and doubtless will be many
>>> more times). Beyond that, I have no spec=
ial
>> knowledge w.r.t. new roasters.
>>> Sorry. ;-)
>>>
>>> --
>=
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other 10% is worse.
>>> -- Nicholas Clark
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9) From: James Raven
I bet there are lots of fine like folk out here doing the same things but j=
ust aren't on this site. This is the center of the coffee universe, or so t=
he local population would have you believe. I only wish there were enough p=
eople to have a good get together in every area, N,S,E,&W!!!  Living out he=
re doesn't mean that you attend however. this NWG VI is 200 miles due south=
 from me and I have medical issues so might end up not attending as my ride=
 is having problems.  :-(  I was so looking forward to meeting these people=
 and getting to know them and see their equipment as well as sample their c=
offees I hear so much about. The high tech roasting attatchments in use the=
re are astounding and way out of my league. But I'm still hoping to attend =
one day at least. Big storm damage last night however, haven't gotten any r=
eports on that area as of yet????  Hoping all are okay!!!!  :-) I hold on t=
o my hopes and desires to get there however, looks like the place to be enj=
oying some time with great folk.
No Fires Jim
From: martywooten
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
To: homeroast
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:04:32 -0700
James,
I have to agree with Joe - check out the link he provided.
I have been around the list for a while (can't remember how long now) even =
though I have not posted regularly in a while and Indiana is certainly not =
any closer than Iowa, but just so you know, when you bring bring up the PNW=
G it can stir jealousy ;o) since there are those of us who have not been ab=
le to fit in such a trip west to share in the fun and have had to live vica=
riously through those who get to attend such a wonderful get together. I ce=
rtainly appreciate all of the reports and pictures posted so we can share i=
n the fun.
It was a sad day when Sweet Maria's moved west (you had to bring that up to=
o didn't you), but having this list and Harvey has certainly helped ease th=
e pain. There have been many that have helped me from the start of my coffe=
e journey (Mike McKoffee, Alchemist, RK, Les, Barry and so many other names=
 I should not have even started listing them) with what they have shared on=
 and off list and continue to do so. It is a great group and I would encour=
age you to enjoy the opportunity if possible.
Marty
----- Original Message ----
From: James Raven 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:17:33 PM
Subject: RE: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
Hey Joe,
Nice to keep getting responses to my post, glad to hear so many in the Stat=
e, where are you located, in general, wash, ore, BC, where? just curious.
Enjoy the Wired Feeling  :-)
From: theotherjo
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:51:07 -0700
James,
Would you be refering to:http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmI just got involved with these great folks last summer. Mike McKoffee has b=
een the host for some time now.
Watch for his posts. He is all over this list.
Cheers,
JoeR
On 10/18/07, James Raven> wrote:
thanks David, I keep hearing about PNR out there but see any posts from the=
re / here.
hava good.
jim
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10) From: Jim Anable
James Raven wrote:
<Snip>
I'm in Seattle.  I've been home roasting for a couple of years, I 
guess.  I'm currently using an original 1500W poppery on two variacs 
(one for fan, a bigger one for the heater coil).  I'm getting good 
results with the Monkey Blend.  ...at least I think it's good, who knows!
Here's the profile that I aim for, give or take a few seconds or 
degrees, watching and listening as I go...
minutes        Temp F
.5            150
1            200
2            250
3            280
4            300
5            320
6            350
7            380
8            400
9            420
10            440
11            450
12 or finish        455 to 460

11) From: James Raven
Hey Jim, how's it goin' ? Is that the only roast system you current have ev=
er used or have you tried other types of roasters? I'm searching for a qual=
uity roaster that works well and isn't some problematic item I keep reading=
 about. I used the poppers for about 4-5 years and didn't have all the tech=
nology then to make the additions that you have made and used up most the p=
oppers in my area, even at garage sales, and St. Vincent Depaul type stores=
. So am looking to maybe lay down some bucks to get a good roaster that can=
 and will last a long while. I'm currently using an old Fresh Roast to get =
by on, okay but small and hard to maintain. Uneven results as well. You hav=
e any knowledgable suggestions? Or have any connections to poppers in your =
area? I would much appreciate any help, I have gotten other suggeastions fr=
om others and am considering them but thought I'd ask since you are close. =
Are you in south, west, central, or slight north Seattle?
Jim
----------------------------------------> From: jim> T=
o: homeroast> Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roaster=
s - Any Out There??> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:22:21 -0700>> James Raven wr=
ote:>>>So where is this " Pacific Northwest Roasters Group located?? Where =
is coffee more prevelent than the Pacific Northwest anyway? Come-on lets ge=
t some conversation going. Just looking to get more local than D.C. and IOW=
A!!! Not ranking Virginia but rather looking for local. I bet you East Coas=
ters were sorry to see T&M move so far west, huh? Any suggestions on the be=
st of the 9 oz. top roasters on the market? I need the good ole honest info=
. i'm an old timer and want to get a new roaster, any help would be much ap=
preciated.>>>>North of Seattle Jim>>> I'm in Seattle. I've been home roasti=
ng for a couple of years, I> guess. I'm currently using an original 1500W p=
oppery on two variacs> (one for fan, a bigger one for the heater coil). I'm=
 getting good> results with the Monkey Blend. ...at least I think it's good=
, who knows!>> Here's the profile that I aim for, give or take a few second=
s or> degrees, watching and listening as I go...>> minutes Temp F> .5 150> =
1 200> 2 250> 3 280> 4 300> 5 320> 6 350> 7 380> 8 400> 9 420> 10 440> 11 4=
50> 12 or finish 455 to 460>>=
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12) From: Jim Anable
James Raven wrote:
<Snip>
 ever used or have you tried other types of roasters?
<Snip>
I started on Toastmaster Poppery II clones, the ones with the power 
switch.  I made my own security tool out of a bolt, opened them up, and 
split the fan with voltage dropping coil off of the main heater coil.  I =
rewired them so that when you plug the unit it, you get fan and dropping =
coil at all times.  The voltage dropping coil also produces some heat, 
by the way.  Then I wired the main heater coil to the switch.  That way, =
I could rock the switch off to decrease heat.  I got okay results, but 
very difficult to remain consistent from batch to batch.
I now measure each green load to 200g, and use a graph of the profile I 
mentioned along with a decent digital thermometer.  (At 200 grams and 
about 140V on the fan, you never need to stir beans.)  The original 
Poppery is far superior in all respects to the Toastmaster version, and 
even though I could buy them in the $3 range at second hand stores, they =
took time to modify and constantly burnt out.
<Snip>
blematic item I keep reading about. I used the poppers for about 4-5 year=
s and didn't have all the technology then to make the additions that you =
have made and used up most the poppers in my area, even at garage sales, =
and St. Vincent Depaul type stores. So am looking to maybe lay down some =
bucks to get a good roaster that can and will last a long while. I'm curr=
ently using an old Fresh Roast to get by on, okay but small and hard to m=
aintain. Uneven results as well. You have any knowledgable suggestions?
<Snip>
I've only tried the poppery II type and the original poppery.  I 
"justified" the expense of a second heavy duty variac because my main 
hobby is fixing, modifying and building tube guitar amps.  When I 
started a couple of years ago, "common wisdom" said that a modified 
popper could get as good or better results as the smaller, home type 
roasting devices. 
I just couldn't justify bumping up to HotTop type money.
<Snip>
No.  The Toastmaster types are easy to find at Value Village and 
similar, but I had to do ebay for the original poppery model.  I think 
that Seattle has too many people scouring the second hand shops for 
items that they know they can resell at a profit on ebay.  I'm betting 
most original Poppery units go to resellers, instead of actual home 
roasters.  I *never* got lucky enough to find one local, so I bit the 
bullet.
<Snip>
others and am considering them but thought I'd ask since you are close. A=
re you in south, west, central, or slight north Seattle?
<Snip>
I'm in the Capitol Hill area.
<Snip>
asters - Any Out There??> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:22:21 -0700>> James R=
aven wrote:>>>So where is this " Pacific Northwest Roasters Group located=
?? Where is coffee more prevelent than the Pacific Northwest anyway? Come=
-on lets get some conversation going. Just looking to get more local than=
 D.C. and IOWA!!! Not ranking Virginia but rather looking for local. I be=
t you East Coasters were sorry to see T&M move so far west, huh? Any sugg=
estions on the best of the 9 oz. top roasters on the market? I need the g=
ood ole honest info. i'm an old timer and want to get a new roaster, any =
help would be much appreciated.>>>>North of Seattle Jim>>> I'm in Seattle=
. I've been home roasting for a couple of years, I> guess. I'm currentl=
y using an original 1500W poppery on two variacs> (one for fan, a bigger =
one for the heater coil). I'm getting good> results with the Monkey Blend=
. ...at least I think it's good, who knows!>> Here's the profile that I=
 aim for, give or take a few seconds or> degrees, watching and listening =
as I go...>> minutes Temp F> .5 150> 1 200> 2 250> 3 280> 4 300> 5 320> 6=
 350> 7 380> 8 400> 9 420> 10 440> 11 450> 12 or finish 455 to 460>>=> homeroast mailing list> http=
://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast> To change your perso=
nal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go tohttp://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
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13) From: James Raven
Hey Jim, Unfortunately I'm not a wiring fan of any kind but am a coffee fie=
nd, junkie, SNOB X2 and suppose will have to step up to an expensive unit. =
Are you a born and raised RUSTER from Seattle, or a transplant? Just curiou=
s. Thanks for all the info, I truly do appreciate the effort and understand=
 why you do what you do and know it would work as I started with a Poppery =
unit 6 years ago. It lasted me a couple years and then scoured everywhere f=
or other units and just dealt with the chaff. Time to upgrade I guess, if I=
 come across any good Poppery units are you still interested in acquiring t=
hem? I could even meet you instead of dealing with sending it.??? Let me kn=
ow. Snohomish Jim> From: jim> To: homeroast=
tmarias.com> Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??> Da=
te: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:46:45 -0700>> James Raven wrote:>>>Hey Jim, how's i=
t goin' ? Is that the only roast system you current have ever used or have =
you tried other types of roasters?>>> I started on Toastmaster Poppery II c=
lones, the ones with the power> switch. I made my own security tool out of =
a bolt, opened them up, and> split the fan with voltage dropping coil off o=
f the main heater coil. I> rewired them so that when you plug the unit it, =
you get fan and dropping> coil at all times. The voltage dropping coil also=
 produces some heat,> by the way. Then I wired the main heater coil to the =
switch. That way,> I could rock the switch off to decrease heat. I got okay=
 results, but> very difficult to remain consistent from batch to batch.>> I=
 now measure each green load to 200g, and use a graph of the profile I> men=
tioned along with a decent digital thermometer. (At 200 grams and> about 14=
0V on the fan, you never need to stir beans.) The original> Poppery is far =
superior in all respects to the Toastmaster version, and> even though I cou=
ld buy them in the $3 range at second hand stores, they> took time to modif=
y and constantly burnt out.>>> I'm searching for a qualuity roaster that wo=
rks well and isn't some problematic item I keep reading about. I used the p=
oppers for about 4-5 years and didn't have all the technology then to make =
the additions that you have made and used up most the poppers in my area, e=
ven at garage sales, and St. Vincent Depaul type stores. So am looking to m=
aybe lay down some bucks to get a good roaster that can and will last a lon=
g while. I'm currently using an old Fresh Roast to get by on, okay but smal=
l and hard to maintain. Uneven results as well. You have any knowledgable s=
uggestions?>>> I've only tried the poppery II type and the original poppery=
. I> "justified" the expense of a second heavy duty variac because my main>=
 hobby is fixing, modifying and building tube guitar amps. When I> started =
a couple of years ago, "common wisdom" said that a modified> popper could g=
et as good or better results as the smaller, home type> roasting devices.>>=
 I just couldn't justify bumping up to HotTop type money.>>> Or have any co=
nnections to poppers in your area?>>> No. The Toastmaster types are easy to=
 find at Value Village and> similar, but I had to do ebay for the original =
poppery model. I think> that Seattle has too many people scouring the secon=
d hand shops for> items that they know they can resell at a profit on ebay.=
 I'm betting> most original Poppery units go to resellers, instead of actua=
l home> roasters. I *never* got lucky enough to find one local, so I bit th=
e> bullet.>>>I would much appreciate any help, I have gotten other suggeast=
ions from others and am considering them but thought I'd ask since you are =
close. Are you in south, west, central, or slight north Seattle?>>Jim>>>>> =
I'm in the Capitol Hill area.>>>>>>>>>>>-----------------------------------=
-----> From: jim> To: homeroast>=
 Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??> Date: Fri, 19 =
Oct 2007 13:22:21 -0700>> James Raven wrote:>>>So where is this " Pacific N=
orthwest Roasters Group located?? Where is coffee more prevelent than the P=
acific Northwest anyway? Come-on lets get some conversation going. Just loo=
king to get more local than D.C. and IOWA!!! Not ranking Virginia but rathe=
r looking for local. I bet you East Coasters were sorry to see T&M move so =
far west, huh? Any suggestions on the best of the 9 oz. top roasters on the=
 market? I need the good ole honest info. i'm an old timer and want to get =
a new roaster, any help would be much appreciated.>>>>North of Seattle Jim>=
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14) From: Marty Wooten
Jim,
I certainly understand distance can be restrictive (not to mentio=
n the added circumstances), but at least those that do manage to get togeth=
er have always been good about sharing their stories and pictures with the =
rest of the list. A get together in each area would be nice. I have actuall=
y had some discussions with a few folks about a little get together in Indi=
ana in the past, but getting all the details worked out has yet to happen..=
. maybe someday. I certainly respect those that manage to put on such a gre=
at gathering after seeing just a few of the details you have to work out tr=
ying to get one pulled together. Not only have they managed to make it happ=
en, they make it happen at a very high level. I hope all made it through th=
e storm unscathed as well and that if it works out your hopes come true. If=
 they do, please drink a cup for me.
 
Marty
----- Original Mes=
sage ----
From: James Raven 
To: homeroast=
eetmarias.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:41:56 PM
Subject: RE: +P=
acific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
I bet there are lots of=
 fine like folk out here doing the same things but just aren't on this site=
. This is the center of the coffee universe, or so the local population wou=
ld have you believe. I only wish there were enough people to have a good ge=
t together in every area, N,S,E,&W!!!  Living out here doesn't mean that yo=
u attend however. this NWG VI is 200 miles due south from me and I have med=
ical issues so might end up not attending as my ride is having problems.  :=
-(  I was so looking forward to meeting these people and getting to know th=
em and see their equipment as well as sample their coffees I hear so much a=
bout. The high tech roasting attatchments in use there are astounding and w=
ay out of my league. But I'm still hoping to attend one day at least. Big s=
torm damage last night however, haven't gotten any reports on that area as =
of yet????  Hoping all are okay!!!!  :-) I hold on to my hopes and desires =
to get there however, looks like the place to
 be enjoying some time with great folk.
No Fires Jim=
From: martywooten
Subject: Re: +Paci=
fic Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
To: homeroast=
com
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:04:32 -0700
James,
I have to agre=
e with Joe - check out the link he provided.
I have been around the li=
st for a while (can't remember how long now) even though I have not posted =
regularly in a while and Indiana is certainly not any closer than Iowa, but=
 just so you know, when you bring bring up the PNWG it can stir jealousy ;o=
) since there are those of us who have not been able to fit in such a trip =
west to share in the fun and have had to live vicariously through those who=
 get to attend such a wonderful get together. I certainly appreciate all of=
 the reports and pictures posted so we can share in the fun.
It was a sad=
 day when Sweet Maria's moved west (you had to bring that up too didn't you=
), but having this list and Harvey has certainly helped ease the pain. Ther=
e have been many that have helped me from the start of my coffee journey (M=
ike McKoffee, Alchemist, RK, Les, Barry and so many other names I should no=
t have even started listing them) with what they have shared on and off lis=
t and continue to do so. It is a great group and I would encourage you to e=
njoy the opportunity if possible.
Marty
----- Original Message --=
--
From: James Raven 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thurs=
day, October 18, 2007 12:17:33 PM
Subject: RE: +Pacific Northwest Roaster=
s - Any Out There??
Hey Joe,
Nice to keep getting responses to my=
 post, glad to hear so many in the State, where are you located, in general=
, wash, ore, BC, where? just curious.
Enjoy the Wired Feeling  :-)
=
From: theotherjo
To=
: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roaster=
s - Any Out There??
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:51:07 -0700
James,
W=
ould you be refering to:http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmI j=
ust got involved with these great folks last summer. Mike McKoffee has been=
 the host for some time now.
Watch for his posts. He is all over this lis=
t.
Cheers,
JoeR
On 10/18/07, James Raven> wrote:
thanks David=
, I keep hearing about PNR out there but see any posts from there / here.=
hava good.
jim
> From: dink0617
> Subject: R=
E: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
> To: homeroast=
eetmarias.com
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:08:02 -0700
>
> I am in Ken=
t, I don't know of any place locally that
> sells roasters or supplies, c=
heck craigslist. I got
> mine on there for $30, see some on there from ti=
me to
> time, saw a Melitta roaster(baker) at Goodwill in
> Seattle for=
 $4, no top end though.
>
> David
> --- James Raven  wrote:
>
>>=
>> yes you are wrong probably yet again, more from
>> north seattle wh=
ere we still rust as well. Where the
>> so called espresso stands almost =
outnumber the
>> homes, not Vancouver or BC. but have a good anyway.
>>=
 Whay type of gear do you use and where locally can
>> it be acquired? An=
y knowledge on that?
>> Good Summer for Rusting Mr. Knox, hope you got
=
<Snip>
>>
>>> From: tdk
>>> To: homeroast=
m
>>> Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out
>> There??
>=
<Snip>
rth, at Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at
>> 06:17:03PM -0700, James Raven wrote:
>>=
<Snip>
 is coffee more prevelent than
>> the Pacific Northwest anyway? Come-on l=
ets get some
>> conversation going. Just looking to get more local
>> t=
han D.C. and IOWA!!! Not ranking Virginia but
>> rather looking for local=
. I bet you East Coasters
>> were sorry to see T&M move so far west, huh?=
 Any
>> suggestions on the best of the 9 oz. top roasters on
>> the mar=
ket? I need the good ole honest info. i'm an
>> old timer and want to get=
 a new roaster, any help
>> would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Well, =
this roaster is in Seattle, where the saying
>> is, "We don't tan. We rus=
t."
>>> ;-) I believe (from looking at the web page he
>> sent out abou=
t the get-together)
>>> that he is in the Vancouver area (as the T-shirt=
>> said: "Vancouver, not BC.
>>> Washington, not DC.") but of course I=
 could be
>> wrong (and doubtless will be many
>>> more times). Beyond =
that, I have no special
>> knowledge w.r.t. new roasters.
>>> Sorry. ;-=
)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Timothy Knox
>>> 90% of everything is crud. And fo=
r software the
>> other 10% is worse.
>>> -- Nicholas Clark
>>>=
>>> homeroast mailing list
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15) From: James Raven
Good luck to you Marty, I sincerly hope you get your group going every year=
, what an opportunity to meet new people with similar interests and reasons=
 for gathering, to learn, meet and enjoy new experiences.
Hava Good,
Jim
From: martywooten
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
To: homeroast
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:19:55 -0700
Jim,
I certainly understand distance can be restrictive (not to mention the adde=
d circumstances), but at least those that do manage to get together have al=
ways been good about sharing their stories and pictures with the rest of th=
e list. A get together in each area would be nice. I have actually had some=
 discussions with a few folks about a little get together in Indiana in the=
 past, but getting all the details worked out has yet to happen... maybe so=
meday. I certainly respect those that manage to put on such a great gatheri=
ng after seeing just a few of the details you have to work out trying to ge=
t one pulled together. Not only have they managed to make it happen, they m=
ake it happen at a very high level. I hope all made it through the storm un=
scathed as well and that if it works out your hopes come true. If they do, =
please drink a cup for me.
Marty
----- Original Message ----
From: James Raven 
To: homeroast
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:41:56 PM
Subject: RE: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
I bet there are lots of fine like folk out here doing the same things but j=
ust aren't on this site. This is the center of the coffee universe, or so t=
he local population would have you believe. I only wish there were enough p=
eople to have a good get together in every area, N,S,E,&W!!!  Living out he=
re doesn't mean that you attend however. this NWG VI is 200 miles due south=
 from me and I have medical issues so might end up not attending as my ride=
 is having problems.  :-(  I was so looking forward to meeting these people=
 and getting to know them and see their equipment as well as sample their c=
offees I hear so much about. The high tech roasting attatchments in use the=
re are astounding and way out of my league. But I'm still hoping to attend =
one day at least. Big storm damage last night however, haven't gotten any r=
eports on that area as of yet????  Hoping all are okay!!!!  :-) I hold on t=
o my hopes and desires to get there however, looks like the place to be enj=
oying some time with great folk.
No Fires Jim
From: martywooten
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
To: homeroast
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:04:32 -0700
James,
I have to agree with Joe - check out the link he provided.
I have been around the list for a while (can't remember how long now) even =
though I have not posted regularly in a while and Indiana is certainly not =
any closer than Iowa, but just so you know, when you bring bring up the PNW=
G it can stir jealousy ;o) since there are those of us who have not been ab=
le to fit in such a trip west to share in the fun and have had to live vica=
riously through those who get to attend such a wonderful get together. I ce=
rtainly appreciate all of the reports and pictures posted so we can share i=
n the fun.
It was a sad day when Sweet Maria's moved west (you had to bring that up to=
o didn't you), but having this list and Harvey has certainly helped ease th=
e pain. There have been many that have helped me from the start of my coffe=
e journey (Mike McKoffee, Alchemist, RK, Les, Barry and so many other names=
 I should not have even started listing them) with what they have shared on=
 and off list and continue to do so. It is a great group and I would encour=
age you to enjoy the opportunity if possible.
Marty
----- Original Message ----
From: James Raven
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:17:33 PM
Subject: RE: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
Hey Joe,
Nice to keep getting responses to my post, glad to hear so many in the Stat=
e, where are you located, in general, wash, ore, BC, where? just curious.
Enjoy the Wired Feeling  :-)
From: theotherjo
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Pacific Northwest Roasters - Any Out There??
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:51:07 -0700
James,
Would you be refering to:http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmI just got involved with these great folks last summer. Mike McKoffee has b=
een the host for some time now.
Watch for his posts. He is all over this list.
Cheers,
JoeR
On 10/18/07, James Raven> wrote:
thanks David, I keep hearing about PNR out there but see any posts from the=
re / here.
hava good.
jim
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