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Topic: dangers of home roasting (30 msgs / 580 lines)
1) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
i think ya'll should read this:http://news.ktar.com/?nid=6&sidb3513tom
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2) From: Eddie Dove
Candidate for runner up in the Darwin Awards?
Eddie
On 10/18/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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3) From: Eddie Dove
I also wonder if the coffee beans have lawyered up ...
Eddie
On 10/18/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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4) From: James Raven
ie it was T&M's Beans I think he'd be a little more twisted, I know I would=
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Easy to forget when you are doing several roasts, thrown away some burned b=
eans myself.
Oh well, that's life?
Jim
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5) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Sorry, can't nominate him. He didn't buy the farm.
But there has got to be some kind of "What an Idiot" award he could be
presented.
TerryT
On 10/18/07, Eddie Dove  wrote:
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6) From: James Raven
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7) From: Eddie Dove
He can get "Honorable Mention" though: "The stupidity displayed by the
participants in the following tales stops short of the ultimate
sacrifice, but we salute their spirit and innovation."
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8) From: Brett Mason
I've caused fire 3 times in my roasting career...  all contained, but quite
a show!
Anybody else?
Brett
On 10/18/07, James Raven  wrote:
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9) From: Sandy Andina
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Almost. Too heavy/too many beans in an overtaxed i-Roast went to  
French+ (while others barely cooked) when the fan failed to agitate  
enough, and automatically shut off the roaster--filled the house with  
smoke and set off the detector for the first and only time.  No more  
than 2 roasts/machine/day, at least 1/2 hr. apart after that happened.
On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Brett Mason wrote:
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Almost. Too heavy/too many beans in an overtaxed i-Roast went to French+ =
(while others barely cooked) when the fan failed to agitate enough, and =
automatically shut off the roaster--filled the house with smoke and set =
off the detector for the first and only time.  No more than 2 =
roasts/machine/day, at least 1/2 hr. apart after that =
happened.
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10) From: Eddie Dove
Sure, but not because I left home without them ...
Coffee beans in the process of roasting ... kinda like American
Express ... don't leave home without them.
Eddie
On 10/18/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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11) From: Pat Murray
During one of the first roasts with my RK drum I didn't get the pin that
holds the door shut in properly and dumped half a pound of beans onto the
steel plate I had put under the drum. When I heard the different sounds
coming from inside the grill I shut the gas and electricity off immediatly -
no fire but a helluva lot of smoke. (it was still as good as *$'s though ;>)
On 10/18/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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12) From: Eddie Dove
Headline:  Coffee Beans Blamed for Home Fire
There were warning signs and we missed them.  After review of the
macro bean images it was posited that the Ethiopia Djimma Longeberry
was either biting his bottom lip or forming a word that begins with
the letter "F."  It was the latter and that word was "fire."  If only
we, as a community could have reached out to him sooner.
Mournfully,
Eddie
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Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
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13) From: Mark J Bergh
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Easy Now!  My Coffee-Snob friends,
 
Mild Cognitive Impairment (also known as CRS) is a real part of Dementia
assessment................I can personally resemble that remark!
 
Now, which origin beans was I roasting in that last batch?
 
MJBergh  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sandy Andina
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:10 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +dangers of home roasting
Almost. Too heavy/too many beans in an overtaxed i-Roast went to French+
(while others barely cooked) when the fan failed to agitate enough, and
automatically shut off the roaster--filled the house with smoke and set off
the detector for the first and only time. No more than 2 roasts/machine/day,
at least 1/2 hr. apart after that happened.
On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Brett Mason wrote:
I've caused fire 3 times in my roasting career... all contained, but quite a
show!
Anybody else?
Brett
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com

14) From: Jim Anable
Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
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Your reminder about safety issues is appreciated.
I'm wondering just how many beans it took, and what the real source of 
the fire was.  I mean, sure... leave beans on the stove and they will 
catch fire.  But you need a secondary source to catch the apartment on 
fire!  Otherwise, it'd just be smoke damage.   Grease fires seem much 
more dangerous, because you'll get a BIG flame.
I roast on the back porch with an original Poppery modified with a 
variac on the fan, and a big variac on the heater coil.  I wear "ove 
gloves" in case the soup can comes off, or whatever.  I figure if it 
ever catches on fire (like from chaff getting sucked into the bottom), 
I'll just toss it out the back door in the middle of the lawn!  I would 
NEVER, EVER leave it unattended.  That's just plain stoopid.  My method 
requires watching a thermometer and making tweaks on the variac 
controls, so I can't step away and forget about it.  I think that's the 
biggest cause of all problems, forgetting about the heat source.

15) From: Pat Murray
I can see the new posting thread on the list now.
+ Crock Pot Roaster - safety first
Throw your beans in before you leave for work, brew a cup when you get home.
Pat
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16) From: miKe mcKoffee
No bean roasting fires except for a few that jumped onto the TEC infrared
diffuser fry pan chef toss roasting and the pre-tanned beans mixed in with
pellets Traeger coffee smoke smoking. Did have a chaff dust fire the first
time I turned on the fan motor on my first Rosto after split wiring it Fall
of '02. That was a rush! At first thought I'd screwed up the wiring. But the
Rosto was fine (after putting out the fire with extinguisher then taking it
back apart and thoroughly cleaning it's innards) and is still working today.
Or was the last time I used it which was just before getting the Behmor 1600
(pre-production) and then the CCR HotTop...
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brett Mason
	Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:58 PM
	
	I've caused fire 3 times in my roasting career...  all contained,
but quite a show!
	
	Anybody else?
	Brett

17) From: DJ Garcia
Any news on how the coffee tasted? He obviously needs to work on his
cooling, and hire a better admin ...

18) From: Jared
I couldn't agree more with your point Jim and I would guess it is Tom's
inital point also.  Never leave a roast unattended.  Jared
On 10/18/07, Jim Anable  wrote:
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19) From: Michael Mccandless
Si . . .
McSparky
On 10/18/07, DJ Garcia  wrote:
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20) From: Gregg Talton
Tasted like *$;s house blend...
On 10/18/07, DJ Garcia  wrote:
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They say such nice things about people at their funerals that it makes me
sad to realize that I'm going to miss mine by just a few days. - Garrison
Keillor

21) From: Steven Van Dyke
I seem to recall someone once posting their 'coffee bean fire' 
experience here on the list.
As I recall they had a roast 'get away from them' for some reason - 
might have been a drum and they got called away.  All I recall for 
sure is that they had a *way* past Vienna roast that was smoking and 
smoldering so they dumped the mass on their concrete driveway and 
then went to clean everything else up.  Came back in a few minutes to 
find the mass had ignited and was burning with a blue-white flame.  I 
do know that in Brazil they use 'junk' beans to run 
powerplants.  There's a *lot* of energy in green coffee (in more ways 
than one).
If he was roasting a half pound to a pound of beans and left the heat 
on then when they ignited it was probably an intense enough flame to 
light the ceiling.
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22) From: raymanowen
BS-
It was just some homework for a *$ barista/ roastmaster training
class. The 1 point print says that it's Pre-Employment training!
Gong!
On 10/18/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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23) From: Sean Cary
I'll bet if he has a kid - he doesn't name him Richard...
Sean
On 10/18/07, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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24) From: raymanowen
Der Docht -ro
On 10/18/07, Sean Cary  wrote:
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25) From: Luke Eelman
I roast outside on the patio with a Poppery Mk 1 (w/only the fan
switch mod) mostly due to the smoke, chaff mess problem, but it's also
nice to know that if the thing did catch fire, the house won't burn
down.

26) From: Jim Anable
Steven Van Dyke wrote:
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WOW!  I guess I didn't realize how much energy can be released from a 
few beans.
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27) From: zane
when i worked for a coffee roaster we had a batch of decaf catch on fire
prett bad.
it was fluid bed style roaster and the fan motor crapped out in the middle
of the roast.
the beans dropped onto the flame and the decaf, given its lower moisture
content went up.
it took about thirty seconds and whole thing was billowing out smoke.
coffee may not seem like it could start a fire, but it definitely can.  i
was surprised but
the beans turn into little embers - mainly alot of smoke, not really any
flame,
but once they are burning they're difficult to extinguish.
the foul stench of burnt coffee hung in the air for weeks after that.
not an an experience i'd like to repeat.
granted this was 75lbs of coffee, but i think given the right circumstances,
it could burn a house down.
-but really, left a roast on the stove?
that man should save himself the trouble and just support his local roaster.
-zane

28) From: Rick Copple
They are, actually, "wood" in a sense. So it makes sense they can catch 
on fire if heated hot enough. :)
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Rick Copple

29) From: Brian Kamnetz
Good point... In his discussion of the origins of the "cracks" sounds
in roasting, Tom mentions something about the matrix of the bean being
wood, if i recall correctly....
Brian
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30) From: Homeroaster
The beans can really put off quite a flame.  I overfilled my open ended drum 
once and about a quarter pound of beans spilled onto the perforated ceramic 
tiles below the drum.  There was never any concern for safety, but I sure 
didn't want to smoke up a 5 pound batch of beans, so out comes the drum, and 
I watched the beans burn for about five minutes.  Now I have a little 
spritzer bottle of water nearby (as well as a 10 pound ABC fire 
extinguisher) to tame any errant burning beans.
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Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************


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