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Topic: mike, which roaster would you reccomend +dangers of home roasting (6 msgs / 283 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
Best quality roast from currently available off the shelf no modding needed
home roasting appliances? No question either of the two current model
HotTops. IMO most flexible and easiest to use in achieving varying roast
profiles to maximize each beans potential. But relatively expensive yes.
If you want even better control and repeatability contact Jeffrey about a
CCR HotTop (though now we're talking really not inexpensive.) (CCR=Computer
Controlled Roaster)
Also Mike (just plain) PID modifies P1's for exceptional repeatable
controlled roasts. Max batch size about the same as HT. I do believe he's
been cojolled into building them for others too. Again, you'll pay for the
flexibility and quality!
If you have the aptitude for manual control, split wired dual variable boost
voltage controlled P1 equal to PID'd version, just requires 100% "human PID"
intervention 100% of the time with constant temp/time monitoring and
corresponding heat and/or fan adjustments to follow desired profile. Did it
that way for many years! (Real automatic roast control much easier and
allows real multi-tasking while the roast is running:-)
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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2) From: Joseph Robertson
Hi James,
I'm using a IRoast2 and I am very happy with it. We have put many batches
through it and all have been good. It's bean ;) a learning process but a fu=
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one. We got it at the SCAA convention in long beach. I think it was under
200.
It does 5 ounces at a time. I have found it to be the be batch size.
JoeR
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3) From: Joseph Robertson
James,
Unlike what Mike M. has just said this IRoast2 is a very entry level unit.
Simple and fun to use. It probably won't be long before you want to go to a
higher level which gets somewhat or can get somewhat technical. Our Coffee
passion teaches us more than good taste.
JoeR
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee
Agree the IR2 is an excellent entry level home roaster. But when the OP
asked "do you truly believe has the best qualities" and is already using a
Fresh Roast I opted not to mention it. Honestly believe the IR2 does not
have the ability to explore each bean nearly as well. Not saying it can't
produce good tasting roasts. Am saying IR2 won't be nearly as capable or
easy to use or repeatably take a given bean and not just find a good roast
but find the best possible roast you can for a given bean. 
Admittedly striving for the absolute best quality possible isn't important
to many people. Average home roast results are usually far better than
"mainline" commercial coffees and many supposed small batch commercial
Artisan roaster wannabes. (People who get into selling roasting coffee the
same way a vast majority get into selling espresso, not having a clue.)
However, average home roast results are not on the same quality level of top
Artisan commercial roasters IMO. Home roast can be right up there with the
absolute best, and turning beans brown is easy, but finding the best
possible roast for each given bean is a life long Journey! I have always
chosen not to seek just average good coffee. 
Typed while drinking first cup of the morning very good but not excellent
but above average Kona Blue Sky Americano of mixed #1, F & XF grades.
However each grade individually found a bit lacking and hence lower on bag
purchase list since won't have the volume yet to buy two or three bags from
one Estate and mix it for that Estate offering.
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Joseph Robertson
	Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:14 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: mike, which roaster would you reccomend +dangers of
home roasting
	
	James,
	Unlike what Mike M. has just said this IRoast2 is a very entry level
unit. Simple and fun to use. It probably won't be long before you want to go
to a higher level which gets somewhat or can get somewhat technical. Our
Coffee passion teaches us more than good taste. 
	JoeR
	
	On 10/18/07, Joseph Robertson  wrote: 
		Hi James, 
		I'm using a IRoast2 and I am very happy with it. We have put
many batches through it and all have been good. It's bean ;) a learning
process but a fun one. We got it at the SCAA convention in long beach. I
think it was under 200. 
		It does 5 ounces at a time. I have found it to be the be
batch size.
		JoeR 
		
		On 10/18/07, James Raven  wrote: 
			Mike, which home roaster do you truly believe has
the best qualities besides the BBQ one that's available on the market right
now? I need a new one real soon, I'm down to a back up fresh roast, HELP
PLEASE . . . . . . . . . . . . 
			Desperate for that quality that aims me toward the
Nirvana you speak so highly of. I'm of moderate means, but will spend
whatever it takes as I'm a certified Snobish Junkie who needs my fix on a
daily basis, several times a day. OPINIONS ANYWAY????  Thanx Guy, Much
appreciation. 
			
			SNOHO NO FIRES JIM

5) From: Sandy Andina
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On Oct 19, 2007, at 7:54 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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How true!  Yesterday I was in Costco, intending to pick up a mega-bag  
(2/5 lb. for $7.99) of Seattle Mt. Blend to dial-in my Mazzer for the  
new Magister espresso machine when it arrives, when I saw 100% Kona  
on sale for $9.99/lb.--and it had just come out of the roaster, since  
the bags were still warm.  They were sealed, though, and the  
employees were already roasting the Colombian decaf, so I couldn't  
tell the degree of roast, but the lady loading the decaf said the  
Kona was "not dark."  I got it home to brew up an Aeropress cup, and  
when I opened the bag to inspect the roast was chagrined to find it  
at least a FC or even FC+, with a little oil already showing.  I  
brewed it up, and though there was some crema it was much scantier  
and not as golden as what I usually get with the AP (probably because  
it hasn't outgassed sufficiently).  It tasted rough and bitter, not  
at all what I expect from Kona--and not even up to Costco's usual  
standards for their cheaper beans. I'm hoping it'll mellow a bit and  
let the "snap" emerge as it hits the sweet spot in a couple of days.   
(When I roast the Kona Kowali from SMs, I never take it past City 
+).   In this case, home beats commercial.
Sandy
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www.sass-music.com
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at 7:54 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:

Average home roast results = are usually far better than

"mainline" commercial coffees and many supposed small batch = commercial

Artisan = roaster wannabes.

How true!  Yesterday I = was in Costco, intending to pick up a mega-bag (2/5 lb. for $7.99) of = Seattle Mt. Blend to dial-in my Mazzer for the new Magister espresso = machine when it arrives, when I saw 100% Kona on sale for $9.99/lb.--and = it had just come out of the roaster, since the bags were still warm. =  They were sealed, though, and the employees were already roasting the = Colombian decaf, so I couldn't tell the degree of roast, but the lady = loading the decaf said the Kona was "not dark."  I got it home to brew = up an Aeropress cup, and when I opened the bag to inspect the roast was = chagrined to find it at least a FC or even FC+, with a little oil = already showing.  I brewed it up, and though there was some crema it = was much scantier and not as golden as what I usually get with the AP = (probably because it hasn't outgassed sufficiently).  It tasted rough = and bitter, not at all what I expect from Kona--and not even up to = Costco's usual standards for their cheaper beans. I'm hoping it'll = mellow a bit and let the "snap" emerge as it hits the sweet spot in a = couple of days.  (When I roast the Kona Kowali from SMs, I never take = it past City+).   In this case, home beats commercial. Sandywww.sass-music.com
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6) From: MichaelB
When I visited Hawaii in February we stopped at the Mountain Thunder
Plantation. One of the highest elevations on the big island. They were
preparing a big shipment for Costco. The beans they were sending were not
the ones we would buy from the website or in person. They were not estate
grade or even prime, but beans that failed to make the premium grade
designations. I got the impression that the price to Costco was pretty
reasonable so if they are selling at premium Kona prices someone is making a
big profit.
I bought a few pounds of their peaberry greens, roast alternatively to
either side of city+ and have been enjoying the smooth, nutty,
buttery coffee. Elegant, refined. Did I say it was smoooooth? Tastes best to
me as vacuum brew, 1.5 g per ounce water. This is one coffee that you don't
want to make too strong or you'll overpower the delicate taste and wonder
what's so special about Kona coffee. Brew it right and you'll know!
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