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Topic: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do (10 msgs / 744 lines)
1) From: Alchemist John
NOT to compete with Tom - just FYI.  I should have a cocoa roasting 
version up this weekend.
At 08:00 10/20/2007, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

2) From: James Raven
Hey Mike, what's up? Are you saying to wait on the unit until they come out=
 with 1600 .1 as in software products / Windows, as in let them get the bug=
s out first? I believe in that as would others across the country if they l=
ived in the land of MICROSOFT, GIANT SOFTWARE PROBLEM COMPANY?????   is tha=
t what your warning might possibly be considering???  As if I wouldn't know=
 that, when every piece has a 2.1 first, that's why the .1, .2, .3, .4,  et=
c . . . . . listen to Mike people!!!!  irf you want the better upgraded uni=
ts!!!!
Hava Good Mike, Enjoy PNWG V   LUCKY FOLKS!!!
JIM
From: mcKona
To: homeroast
Subject: RE: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:14:15 -0700
There are a number of home roast reviewers using the exact same unit as pro=
duction model, not beta or pre-production units. Units off the actual produ=
ction line in China, just shipped directly by-passing miles and months of r=
ed tape before volume shipments come to market.
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVI.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must =
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment=
 found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone befor=
e.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin=
weetmarias.com] On Behalf Of Dan Bollinger
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:03 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Right. I was thinking along the lines of consumer reviews and not the beta =
testers.

3) From: Alchemist John
No, I don't think that is what Mike was saying.
Having spoken at length  with Joe Behm, I would not hold your breath 
for radical upgrades.  He has put years of work into this and 
basically has it where he wants it.  Tweaks will probably end up 
being pretty minor.
At 10:27 10/20/2007, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

4) From: Alchemist John
Nothing at all.  There is no "official" cocoa version.  If you roast 
cocoa, you can simply roast 2-3 pounds.
At 12:29 10/20/2007, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

5) From: James Raven
I don't think it matters to most of the hardcore roasters on the list, no m=
atter how good the machine is they are going to tweak it to fit their usage=
 and set up profiles established with other roasters, am i correct?? Seems =
like lots of you are motorized, fan adding, wiring psychos anyway but i app=
reciate the talent and ability to do those cool things to such a plain piec=
e of electrical equipment. Det Wired . . . ?
Jim
From: danbollinger
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:05:04 -0400
I meant it as a suggestion...  Dan

6) From: James Raven
Well Brett, let me put it this way, At least the scientist types aren't tot=
ally terrified of electricity and all the wiring that goes along with it. T=
hat would probably become my first "Coffee Related Fire" and would take my =
home to ashes. I just think it's cool what can be achieved with some wnowle=
dge and some wiring and old useless parts retrofitted to use for the needed=
 purposes, especially on some old popcorn popper or an old roaster that wou=
ld be junk to me might be rectified by some coffee scientist, engineer, or =
twiddler with some time.
Jim
From: homeroast
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:25:44 -0500
Some of us are non-mod seat-of-the-pants zen types who go by sight, sound, =
smell, and gut...  They're not all scientists on the list.
We all make good coffee.  The scientists can tell you all the details!
Brett
On 10/20/07, James Raven  wrote:
I don't think it matters to most of the hardcore roasters on the list, no m=
atter how good the machine is they are going to tweak it to fit their usage=
 and set up profiles established with other roasters, am i correct?? Seems =
like lots of you are motorized, fan adding, wiring psychos anyway but i app=
reciate the talent and ability to do those cool things to such a plain piec=
e of electrical equipment. Det Wired . . . ?
Jim
From: danbollinger
To: homeroast 
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:05:04 -0400
I meant it as a suggestion...  Dan

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220kv  hummm 220 kilo volts?  can y0u tame lightening bolts as well?vbg
---- Aaron Scholten  wrote: 
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8) From: Alchemist John
BWAHAHAHAH - I totally missed that.  But he is talking crane, and 
semi truck and ARCS.  Maybe it IS what he meant.  22,000 Volts - wow, 
not THAT is a roaster.
At 17:25 10/21/2007, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

9) From: James Raven
sounds like the beginnings of a good day mike, Enjoy and thanks for not rag=
ging me about the use of caps.
Jim
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10) From: James Raven
I've probably roasted over 2-3 hundred pounds in many different units, star=
ted with the popcorn machines and a vacum hose. Life goes on and things get=
 accomplished and the quality remains. Ain't it great?
Jim
From: homeroast
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:54:33 -0500
I hear you James...  I too am amazed at the invention of many here regardin=
g precision coffee...
But don't mistake the approach for excellence.  There is a similar thread o=
f people who engross in the experience, and all their management occurs via=
 the senses rather than via sensors and controls...  For example, you can't=
 understand roasting until you've done at least one or two roasts in a tota=
lly hands-on manner, such as wok / skillet / HGDB method.  What is learned =
there can carry back to the development of precision roasters, but without =
that understanding, you're just hoping...
OK, off my soapbox...  Oh, and today I ordered a Sweet Maria's digital ther=
mometer - the scientist in me might come out as well....
Brett
On 10/20/07, James Raven  wrote:
Well Brett, let me put it this way, At least the scientist types aren't tot=
ally terrified of electricity and all the wiring that goes along with it. T=
hat would probably become my first "Coffee Related Fire" and would take my =
home to ashes. I just think it's cool what can be achieved with some wnowle=
dge and some wiring and old useless parts retrofitted to use for the needed=
 purposes, especially on some old popcorn popper or an old roaster that wou=
ld be junk to me might be rectified by some coffee scientist, engineer, or =
twiddler with some time.
Jim
From: homeroast
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:25:44 -0500
Some of us are non-mod seat-of-the-pants zen types who go by sight, sound, =
smell, and gut...  They're not all scientists on the list.
We all make good coffee.  The scientists can tell you all the details!
Brett
On 10/20/07, James Raven  wrote:
I don't think it matters to most of the hardcore roasters on the list, no m=
atter how good the machine is they are going to tweak it to fit their usage=
 and set up profiles established with other roasters, am i correct?? Seems =
like lots of you are motorized, fan adding, wiring psychos anyway but i app=
reciate the talent and ability to do those cool things to such a plain piec=
e of electrical equipment. Det Wired . . . ?
Jim
From: danbollinger
To: homeroast 
Subject: Re: Wait on B1600> RE: Snobs sign it please ( Was: Re: +why do com=
mercial roasters roast so dark?)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:05:04 -0400
I meant it as a suggestion...  Dan


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