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Topic: mcKona Koffee web moved (25 msgs / 808 lines)
1) From: Michael Wade
MiKe:
Don't know about browser incomptibilities but as far as network availability 
goes, DNS resolution is fine, the site pings in an average of 30ms, and 
tracert looks good.  (hostmonster.com?  how appropriate for halloween)
The site comes up (and refreshes) almost instantly for me in SF Bay Area.
Michael Wade

2) From: miKe mcKoffee
I only got 41ms average pinging:-( Didn't spend a lot of time comparison
shopping but hostmonster seemed like a decent deal at $4.95 month with 2yr
commit for 300GB storage, 3,000GB bandwidth, free domain etc. and even 24x7
phone support that on three calls was answered by a real live person each
time in under a minute...
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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3) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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Nice.  Looks good in FireFox v2.0.0.8.  Ping from CT looks acceptable:
    C:\>ping www.mckonakoffee.com
    Pinging mckonakoffee.com [74.220.207.169] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 74.220.207.169: bytes2 time•ms TTLC
    Reply from 74.220.207.169: bytes2 time0ms TTLC
    Reply from 74.220.207.169: bytes2 time˜ms TTLC
    Reply from 74.220.207.169: bytes2 time–ms TTLC
    Ping statistics for 74.220.207.169:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 95ms, Maximum = 100ms, Average = 97ms
    C:\>
Wish I lived within visiting distance. :)  Best of luck Mike & Bruce!
pat----

4) From: Chris Hardenbrook
miKe -- I don't know what's up with my computer, but I'm not getting 
the graphics, they just won't load and I get the little red x in the 
corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture" has no effect. I 
work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer (I'm a 
geographer/cartographer doing environmental land management for the 
military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't coming up. My home 
computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have a 256 MB Nvidia 
graphics card and 2GB ram.  Any suggestions?
Chris in Hilo
At 05:56 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
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5) From: Floyd Lozano
More reasons than you might think could cause this ;)http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/ieimage.htmroll to the bottom, numerous Microsoft support articles are referenced.
-F
On 10/26/07, Chris Hardenbrook  wrote:
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6) From: David Teegardin
this usually fixes your problem:
  go into tool_internet options_ and change the security level, privacy level, and advanced options (security, privacy and advanced tabs) to suite your needs. if your unsure if you should do something, try it out. it can always be undone, and it may end up being just what you need. there also exists site monitering programs, such as the ones public schools use. one can be used to track the sites visited. even if you cant log in, youll still know what sites are visited, and can question if need be.
Chris Hardenbrook  wrote:
  miKe -- I don't know what's up with my computer, but I'm not getting 
the graphics, they just won't load and I get the little red x in the 
corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture" has no effect. I 
work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer (I'm a 
geographer/cartographer doing environmental land management for the 
military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't coming up. My home 
computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have a 256 MB Nvidia 
graphics card and 2GB ram. Any suggestions?
Chris in Hilo
At 05:56 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
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7) From: Rich
IE secuity settings are your problem.  I lost the link so I can not look at the page source and tell you 
exactly why IE will not play.  May I suggest an emergency upgrade to FireFox and the IETab extension?
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:26:34 -1000, Chris Hardenbrook wrote:
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8) From: Rich
Use Floyd's link to troubleshoot IE, or just shoot it....
--Original Message Text---
From: Floyd Lozano
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:42:45 -0400
More reasons than you might think could cause this ;)http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/ieimage.htmroll to the bottom, numerous Microsoft support articles are referenced.
-F
On 10/26/07, Chris Hardenbrook  wrote: miKe -- I don't know what's up 
with my computer, but I'm not getting
the graphics, they just won't load and I get the little red x in the 
corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture" has no effect. I
work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer (I'm a
geographer/cartographer doing environmental land management for the
military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't coming up. My home
computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have a 256 MB Nvidia
graphics card and 2GB ram.  Any suggestions?
Chris in Hilo
At 05:56 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
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9) From: RK
Mike I get McKonaKoffee.com nicely and fast load
Using Windows 2000 Pro.
RK

10) From: Brett Mason
The fix for IE is called Firefox...  or Safari...  or - just about anything
that's not preceded with MS...
Brett
On 10/26/07, Rich  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

11) From: Rich
Or Windows....
--Original Message Text---
From: Brett Mason
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:08:41 -0500
The fix for IE is called Firefox...  or Safari...  or - just about anything that's not preceded with MS...
Brett
On 10/26/07, Rich < rich-mail> wrote: Use Floyd's link to troubleshoot IE, or just shoot it....
--Original Message Text---
From: Floyd Lozano
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:42:45 -0400
More reasons than you might think could cause this ;)http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/ieimage.htm
roll to the bottom, numerous Microsoft support articles are referenced.
-F
On 10/26/07, Chris Hardenbrook  wrote: miKe -- I don't know what's up with my 
computer, but I'm not getting
the graphics, they just won't load and I get the little red x in the 
corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture" has no effect. I
work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer (I'm a
geographer/cartographer doing environmental land management for the
military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't coming up. My home
computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have a 256 MB Nvidia
graphics card and 2GB ram. Any suggestions?
Chris in Hilo
At 05:56 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

12) From: miKe mcKoffee
I have no idea what "private header information" is, just know I created the
site using stupid tool I have on hand, MS Word Office 2003, so MS put it
there without asking me that's for sure!
Typed while another sample batch roasting and Koffee bag labels
printing....and was just informed to get my butt in the kitchen and finish
the pulled pork samiches:-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Chris
Hardenbrook
	Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:37 PM
	
	Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. I am discarding the
suggestions to switch OS or browser as I do not think this is the problem;
pictures come up just fine on other web sites, so the problem is elsewhere
(no offense to loyal fans of Safari, Opera, Firefox, etc., those are
undoubtedly fine and I have no particular love for MS/Windows, but a change
like that is unlikely to be a miraculous panacea...). So, here's what I've
found:
	
	When I shutdown my firewall/anti-virus/anti-spyware program
(ZoneAlarm Pro) the pictures come in fine and immediately.  I do not want to
browse much without protection, so what feature of ZAP is holding back
pictures from miKe's website and not others??  Here's what I've found:
	
	The Cookie Control feature is the key. When I disable all cookie
control, allowing third-party cookies and private header information to pass
through, the pictures come in fine and immediately. Allowing tracking cookie
(third-party) is, however, unacceptable to me. I tested the control by
allowing private header information to come through while still blocking
third-party cookies and, what do you know, the pictures come through!
	
	Now, can someone tell me what "private header information" consists
of; whether it is necessary on some web sites and not others (others being
the 99% of web sites that show me all their graphics with "private header
information" blocked)?
	
	Chris in Hilo
	
	At 10:42 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
	
		More reasons than you might think could cause this ;)
		 
	http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/ieimage.htm		 
		roll to the bottom, numerous Microsoft support articles are
referenced.
		-F
		
		On 10/26/07, Chris Hardenbrook 
wrote: 
		
			miKe -- I don't know what's up with my computer, but
I'm not getting
			
			the graphics, they just won't load and I get the
little red x in the 
			
			corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture"
has no effect. I
			
			work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer
(I'm a
			
			geographer/cartographer doing environmental land
management for the
			
			military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't
coming up. My home
			
			computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have
a 256 MB Nvidia
			
			graphics card and 2GB ram.  Any suggestions?
			
			Chris in Hilo

13) From: Rich
Go here and read what it says.....  URL: http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=security&message.id217       you might have to cut and past it back together.
Mikes page was made with MS Word and is filled with MS gunk that has no meaning to most browsers.
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From: Chris Hardenbrook
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:36:39 -1000
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. I am discarding the suggestions to switch OS or browser as I 
do not think this is the problem; pictures come up just fine on other web sites, so the problem is 
elsewhere (no offense to loyal fans of Safari, Opera, Firefox, etc., those are undoubtedly fine and I 
have no particular love for MS/Windows, but a change like that is unlikely to be a miraculous 
panacea...). So, here's what I've found:
When I shutdown my firewall/anti-virus/anti-spyware program (ZoneAlarm Pro) the pictures come in 
fine and immediately.  I do not want to browse much without protection, so what feature of ZAP is 
holding back pictures from miKe's website and not others??  Here's what I've found:
The Cookie Control feature is the key. When I disable all cookie control, allowing third-party cookies 
and private header information to pass through, the pictures come in fine and immediately. Allowing 
tracking cookie (third-party) is, however, unacceptable to me. I tested the control by allowing private 
header information to come through while still blocking third-party cookies and, what do you know, 
the pictures come through!
Now, can someone tell me what "private header information" consists of; whether it is necessary on 
some web sites and not others (others being the 99% of web sites that show me all their graphics with 
"private header information" blocked)?
Chris in Hilo
At 10:42 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
More reasons than you might think could cause this ;)http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/ieimage.htmroll to the bottom, numerous Microsoft support articles are referenced.
-F
On 10/26/07, Chris Hardenbrook  wrote: 
miKe -- I don't know what's up with my computer, but I'm not getting
the graphics, they just won't load and I get the little red x in the 
corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture" has no effect. I
work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer (I'm a
geographer/cartographer doing environmental land management for the
military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't coming up. My home
computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have a 256 MB Nvidia
graphics card and 2GB ram.  Any suggestions?
Chris in Hilo

14) From: Rick Copple
miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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Looking at the html code, the images are "wrapped" by paragraph and font 
info that probably references the style codes in the header. If it is 
blocking the style codes, it may be preventing the images from showing 
up that are wrapped in those. My bet is if Mike went in and took those 
out and just left the  tags for those lines, that you would have no 
problems. Most people don't use Word for building web sites, and now you 
know why. ;)
-- 
Rick Copple

15) From: miKe mcKoffee
Yup, I'm not most people and I'm no professional friggin' web designer =
with
professional friggin' web designer tools and hence used what I had and =
hence
it's a site "under construction" and eventually will find the time and =
cough
up the bucks to pay someone to do a real nice and proper website but =
before
that had to pay bookoo bucks for the café, many thousands for the =
roaster
won't even have for another over a month, sample/profile development
roaster, insurance, accounting software and accounting setup fees, State
fees for business organization formations and licenses, city business
license 10 times higher than State business license plus $50 per =
employee,
few thousand for a few hundred pounds of greens, couple thousand valve =
bags
in two sizes to put the sucker's in once roasted, first months lease
payment, re-modeling yet to go, web hosting at least taken care of, =
hundreds
for logo design development, now logo done need to get main signs =
designed
and pay many hundreds for that too, and new menu boards, and espresso
barware etc etc etc.
At this stage having a professionally perfect web presence is the least =
of
my worries...
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
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16) From: Chris Hardenbrook
Now you're on to  something.  Good sleuthing, Rick.  Check it out, 
miKe?  This could make your web site available to many more folks.
Chris in Hilo
At 05:11 PM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
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17) From: Derek Bradford
Ok, here's the deal: For whatever reason, miKe's site is refusing to
send images to anyone who doesn't send referer information.
Realistically speaking, that probably won't affect many people.  IE
users who have security turned way up, tinkerers in Firefox who keep
sendRefererHeaders turned off (about:config is your friend), and other
security-minded people (rigid firewallers who customize everything,
for example).
For the Firefox folks this probably isn't the first time you've come
across it.  If not, you can install a nifty extension to make these
situations more convenient:http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/For others, you're on your own I think, but there can't be many of you
who don't fall into the above categories.  And like miKe said, it's
really a pretty low priority at the moment.  :)
Cheers,
--Derek
On 10/27/07, Rick Copple  wrote:
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Check out my blog: www.blynic.com
Every path but your own is the path of fate.  --Thoreau

18) From: Rich
It is the MSO tags that need to go, that stands for microsoft office and they are formatting codes for the 
original word document.  There are code checkers on the intenet that you cut and paste your code into 
and they spit out all of the errors.  I thought I had one bookmarked but it is hiding somewhere.  Found 
it.  Use Validate by Direct Input.  URL: http://validator.w3.org/ Just ran it through the validator...  
Validator not impressed, no DOCTYPE.  that is what is breaking ZAP and IE more than anything else.  
The validator tells you how to fix it and shows you where to do the fixing.  Thank you Bill.
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:11:07 -0500, Rick Copple wrote:
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19) From: Rick Copple
miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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I certainly understand, Mike. Not intended to berate you for using what 
you have. Its just Word isn't the preferred way, even for people who 
aren't that html savy. There are open source (thus free) software that 
is easy to use (in a "what you see is what you get" environment) that 
produce much cleaner code than Word, which if you can use Word, you can 
use that. But at this stage, you can do that later when you get a little 
more time. The people whose security is too high to see the pictures are 
probably not going to impact your immediate business, I would think. A 
task for a later time, perhaps, but certainly within your reach to take 
care of at some point. See the link I sent you for one open source 
solution that should be easy to use.
But, you are experiencing why people who do this tend to shy away from 
using Word for any of it, nonetheless. :)
-- 
Rick Copplehttp://www.rlcopple.com/

20) From: James Raven
I totally agree, and why does Bill Big Bucks Gates want to control the worl=
d, can't he just crawl off and enjoy his freakin billions and  . . . . . . =
well I'd fly my personal Jet down to Tom & Maria's party!!!!!  Stupid rich =
moron. That's the difference between him and Paul Allen, Paul has fun Bill =
just has money and likes the power!!!!!  Maybe you can tell I'm from the Pa=
cific Northwest, MicroSoft Town. 
Jim
From: rich-mail
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +RE: mcKona Koffee web moved
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:17:19 -0500
Go here and read what it says..... URL:http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=security&messag=e.id=17217
you might have to cut and past it back together.
Mikes page was made with MS Word and is filled with MS gunk that has no mea=
ning to most browsers.
--Original Message Text---
From: Chris Hardenbrook
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:36:39 -1000
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. I am discarding the suggestions to=
 switch OS or browser as I do not think this is the problem; pictures come =
up just fine on other web sites, so the problem is elsewhere (no offense to=
 loyal fans of Safari, Opera, Firefox, etc., those are undoubtedly fine and=
 I have no particular love for MS/Windows, but a change like that is unlike=
ly to be a miraculous panacea...). So, here's what I've found:
When I shutdown my firewall/anti-virus/anti-spyware program (ZoneAlarm Pro)=
 the pictures come in fine and immediately. I do not want to browse much wi=
thout protection, so what feature of ZAP is holding back pictures from miKe=
's website and not others?? Here's what I've found:
The Cookie Control feature is the key. When I disable all cookie control, a=
llowing third-party cookies and private header information to pass through,=
 the pictures come in fine and immediately. Allowing tracking cookie (third=
-party) is, however, unacceptable to me. I tested the control by allowing p=
rivate header information to come through while still blocking third-party =
cookies and, what do you know, the pictures come through!
Now, can someone tell me what "private header information" consists of; whe=
ther it is necessary on some web sites and not others (others being the 99%=
 of web sites that show me all their graphics with "private header informat=
ion" blocked)?
Chris in Hilo
At 10:42 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
More reasons than you might think could cause this ;)http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/ieimage.htmroll to the bottom, numerous Microsoft support articles are referenced.
-F
On 10/26/07, Chris Hardenbrook  wrote:
miKe -- I don't know what's up with my computer, but I'm not getting
the graphics, they just won't load and I get the little red x in the
corner. Right clicking and selecting "show picture" has no effect. I
work with a lot of intensive graphics on my computer (I'm a
geographer/cartographer doing environmental land management for the
military), so I'm surprised the graphics aren't coming up. My home
computer is a PC, using IE and WinXP Home OS. I have a 256 MB Nvidia
graphics card and 2GB ram. Any suggestions?
Chris in Hilo homeroast mailing list htt=
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21) From: Brett Mason
Hey, somebody step up and volunteer to scrub the page for Mike and dress it
up.  Probably worth an exquisite espresso on your next visit...
Brett
On 10/27/07, James Raven  wrote:
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22) From: Jeff Bensen
I was just thinking that same thing late last night. I'd be willing 
to give it a go. We have company today (brewing up some of last years 
excellent Kenya AA Auction Lot 434 Kithungururu), but I could tackle 
this tomorrow.
- Jeff Bensen
   Palm Bay, FL
At 08:28 AM 10/27/2007, Brett Mason  wrote:
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23) From: Homeroaster
Although I'm sure it's in your business plan, you forgot to list another 
biggie--advertising and marketing.  That'll put another hurt on your wallet.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

24) From: miKe mcKoffee
True, forgot to mention that while 'ranting' off the top of my head!
Monitoring a roast while typing, up and working since 5:30:-)
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
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25) From: James Raven
Mike -
When you do become the rage you are heading for you'll look back on the 1st=
 of the year when you officially open your doors and laugh at all your litt=
le problems of putting together such a dream as your Kafe. You will have de=
served all your success and like the old saying goes  "Build it and they wi=
ll come"  That's how I see your vision and hard work. And believe me, peopl=
e will COME and you will have what you wanted. 
I admire your tenacity and ability, support, and knowledge in the field of =
Espresso. Rock On.
Respectfully,
Jim
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