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Topic: Cleaning the inside of a Hottop (10 msgs / 263 lines)
1) From: gwargo1
Ginny and Eddie:
Thanks for the quick reply!  to answer Ginny first:  There were no styro peanut pieces when I got it.  Other than signs of a little previous use, it was/is in perfect condition.  I do love this machine!
Wow, Eddie, I don't know if I need to go that far!  The build up is mostly on the side facing the heating element, the back, and the bean shoot.  I never considered Oxyclean.  I am not sure what is safe to use on this.  I did end up soaking the drum and the front face plate in soapy water, and most of the build up came right off, with the rest coming off with a sponge or brush.  Some of the areas within the drum definitely are not easy to get to, that's for sure.  I read in other posts that someone used oven cleaner, but I am not sure if I should do that or not.  I will think about how you are going about it, but I must admit that I am a little afraid to take things apart.  I am one of those people that always seems to have a least one nut or screw left over when I am done!  With this, I am a little worried!
Thanks again!
 
Greg

2) From: Eddie Dove
For future reference, I did put up some pics ...http://www.homeroasters.org/php/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id6&thread_idh8#post_5847I did get most of it back together this evening too ... I just need to
reinstall the fan, the back and the filters.
Eddie
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Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 10/27/07, gwargo1  wrote:
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3) From: raymanowen
I don't know what gauge the drum metal is, but you could make a plan with
all the Hotttop owners in the geographic area to meet you at a high pressure
carwash with their drums. Soak the drums in a hot solution of Simple Green
first.
Next, strap the drums down to concrete blocks and hit them all with the hot
high pressure wand.
There may be a few drums that still exhibit "Ring Around The Collar."
That's just the contingency for which you scheduled a demonstration of a
3,000 psi Hotsy steam cleaner/ degreaser. Chain individual drums to an Edsel
engine block.
Aim the steam gun at an inconspicuous area of the drum, and pull the
trigger. The engine block will be stripped and degreased, like a virgin
casting. When you find the drum's remnants, they'll be Spic and Span, too.
I heard tell that seasoned drums were a good thing. Am I rong?
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On 10/27/07, Eddie Dove  wrote:
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4) From: Eddie Dove
"I heard tell that seasoned drums were a good thing. Am I rong?"
My goal is to learn this roaster so I can compare it to the Gene Cafe
and then the Behmor 1600.  I am in the process of refurbishing it and
perhaps upgrading it to the the model "B."  I got this one used and I
want to start with a fresh, clean roaster and season it myself.
Eddie
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Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On 10/27/07, raymanowen  wrote:
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5) From: MichaelB
The hottop drum builds up burned bits over time that flake off during
roasting and add unwanted tastes to subsequent roasts. Soaking and cleaning
every few sessions (for me about every three sessions or about 10 roasts)
seems about right. Sometimes I soak the drum but most times I just put it
and other removable parts into dishwasher.
As for the insides, the only part I clean is the thermostat, the little
button on the back wall that reads the temperature. When crap builds up on
the button the temperature readings start to change. You can reach that area
most easily from the top chute rather than from the front. A toothbrush with
some baking soda has worked for me.
Of course if the above practice doesn't seem like it is enough for you,
there's always RayO's method.
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6) From: gin
Greg,
justkidding you about the styro prenuts. When I sent eddie the machine I dumped a bag of peanuts in for that little extra shipping support, well I guess they were everywhere and eddie has had a time getting them out!!
ginny
you will love your hot top.
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7) From: DJ Garcia
After 4 years of admittedly low quantity roasting - about a pound or two
tops a week - I have found that scraping the inside walls of the roaster
around drum with a bottle-cleaning wire brush every couple of sessions
(right after if very chaffy) seems to take care of the potentially
contaminating crud on the right side. I don't take the drum off, just rotate
it as I brush. The heating element seems to do a good job of burning off
crud on the left side, though I keep an eye on it. Other than then I
dislodge stuck beans with said brush and by bouncing it on its head :-). Of
course this is after dumping any chaff from the current roast from the chaff
tray and inside the drum chamber first.
Every few roasts I soak and scrub the front cover, loading cover and chaff
tray with Cafiza espresso machine cleaner. I also then check the back filter
(I'm using two metal PC fan filters) and clean if necessary. Every few
months I disassemble the back and empty accumulating chaff from the insides
and brush the fan and such. I keep an eye on the temperature sensor in the
back of the drum chamber - I've wire-brush scraped it a couple of times. In
the beginning I scraped the drum a couple of times, but haven't touched it
in a couple of years now. Looks fine with a nice patina.
All in all I find the HT easy on the maintenance side.
DJ
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of MichaelB
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:24 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Re: Cleaning the inside of a Hottop
The hottop drum builds up burned bits over time that flake off during
roasting and add unwanted tastes to subsequent roasts. Soaking and cleaning
every few sessions (for me about every three sessions or about 10 roasts)
seems about right. Sometimes I soak the drum but most times I just put it
and other removable parts into dishwasher. 
 
As for the insides, the only part I clean is the thermostat, the little
button on the back wall that reads the temperature. When crap builds up on
the button the temperature readings start to change. You can reach that area
most easily from the top chute rather than from the front. A toothbrush with
some baking soda has worked for me. 
 
Of course if the above practice doesn't seem like it is enough for you,
there's always RayO's method.

8) From: miKe mcKoffee
Only been using the HotTop 22 days since putting it into "production" mode.
One hundred and fifty 330 to 333g batches later maintenance wise I find it
even simplier. Remove the front and clean the glass with windex every 5
batches or so, after removing and vacuuming up the chaff tray vac' out under
the drum every batch, vac' the permanent filter too. Every 10 batches quick
clean the permanent filter with a Cafiza solution and toothbrush and rinse,
after shaking out excess water dry it in HotTolp during next batches
pre-heat. Clean the drum? Why! Oh, 5x 330-330g (depending on green/roast
level) batches yields 3# post roast.
Would have been even more batches but switched to Bruce roasting 70% of our
Ohana blend pre-roast blended RK drum in two batches to pair with 3 CCR HT
batches (330g ea MM, Aged Sum' and Yirg' Kochere) after the first 65 CCR HT
batch weekend.
Only did 15 batches today:-) (5x Guat' San Jose Ocana, IMV & Kenya Kirinyaga
Thimu PB)
REALLY looking forward to our USRC 8# max batch roaster getting finished
being built, delivered and installed!
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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9) From: Steve
Mike,
You certainly are putting those machines through their paces!  So,
once you get that new roaster, you still gonna be needing that CCR
Hottop? :)
Steve
(I'm so bad!  I just bought a Behmor and it hasn't even arrived and
I'm asking about a Hottop that's probably out of my price range!)
Seriously, though.  I've heard and read that Hottops can deliver roast
after roast with no problems, unlike some of the other home roasters
out there.  Its interesting to see someone actually putting it to the
test and being successful.  With all this roasting, do you still get a
chance to use your original setup?
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10) From: miKe mcKoffee
CCR HT going nowhere. It'll continue to be used for sample roasting, profile
development, and small special order batch roasting. Oh, that 22 day batch
count didn't include personal use batches roasted! As far as Frankie Rosto
roasting, Frankie gets used with the CCR HT (use 126v under load for the
330+ g batches) but array of other roasters are neglected. 
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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