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1) From: John B. Webster
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Folk:  I need advice.  My drip brewer is dying.  (Read dead.)  Do I really
want a Technivorm?  I used a Cuisinart DCC1200 that did not lats a year.
Daily use not more than two per day and it lasted 1.5 years for a C-note.
Any thoughts/   
BTW:  Sarcasm and the gang of four (maybe 5) need not respond.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
 
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
 
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2) From: Sandy Andina
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Yes, you do.  It makes better coffee than any other drip brewer I've  
tried.  Doesn't look like much, but it brews hot enough and doesn't  
"cook" the coffee on a hot plate.  You may actually find one used if  
SM's is out of stock.  It is built deceptively sturdily and will  
probably be the last dripper you buy (unless you bought the 8-cup and  
you want the 10, or they come out with an even bigger one).
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Folk: = I need advice. My drip brewer is dying. (Read dead.) Do I = really want a Technivorm? = Yes, you = do. It makes better coffee than any other drip brewer I've tried. = Doesn't look like much, but it brews hot enough and doesn't "cook" = the coffee on a hot plate. You may actually find one used if SM's is = out of stock. It is built deceptively sturdily and will probably be = the last dripper you buy (unless you bought the 8-cup and you want the = 10, or they come out with an even bigger one). Sandywww.sass-music.com
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3) From: Aaron Scholten
Well sarcasm is part of the bonus plan,... deal with it..... you come 
out of nowhere with a smart comment and  attitude like that and you 
think nobody is going to not respond in kind... you should know better.
Now onto your coffee pot..... Is it worth it to you?    Were you happy 
with the coffee you got from your kweezynart?  If so, then you probably 
can do just as well with a bunn, or mr coffee, or what ever the other 
brands are that run maybe 30 to 40 bucks each.  I had a Mr coffee that 
while the thing was terribly slow to brew, lasted years and years and 
went on more than one med cruise with me where it made probably close to 
ten pots a day.  To be honest the thing is about ten years old now, it 
still runs, but is sitting in a closet, since I took up this 
methodology, I really no longer use it.
The main thing I see about the techy is that it puts out the water at 
the proper temp.  ie 195 - 205  plus or minus a few degrees.  This is 
what most claim is the most important thing about drip brewing....  Now 
with that, depending on how adept you are at tinkering, I have mod'ed 
many coffee pots to put out the hot water at the right temp as well....
See they all have a little thingie in the bottom that basically boils a 
bit of water, it steams and the steam pushes the rest of the near 
boiling water, up the tube and out the spout into the grounds.  this 
causes a check valve thingie to go gurgle klunk and let more water in to 
heat up, partially boil and spurt out as well....  The big problem is 
that the tube that brings the water from the boiler chamber (very loose 
term there) to the squirt hole thingie going into your coffee ground 
group, ... runs through the entire resevoir of water which cools it down 
greatly.... some pots as low as mid 150's to low 160's...... not the 
best temp to brew at.  If you goto any home store, ie lowes, home depot 
ace whatever... get some plastic tubing.. the flexible clear stuff 
works.  and you can probably take the arm / angle thing off the top of 
the coffee pot w/o busting it, and that leaves the tube that carries the 
water up exposed.   Take this slightly larger flex tubing you bought 
(cut to size) and put a blob of silicone sealant on the bottom of it, 
and shove it over the top of the existing tube, and all the way to the 
bottom of the pot and glue it firmly in place... you want to make sure 
it's sealed tight on the bottom, you don't want the water to run up 
it..... what this does is basically give an air gap between the water 
tube from the boiler, and the water outside it... the air won't conduct 
heat nearly as fast as water will so the overall temp of the water 
hitting your grounds is much higher now....after all it was just 
boiling, the steam is what pushes it out......
oh, yah... put the thing back together, let it dry so the glue is 
cured.... generally 24 hours... and give it a shot...
Or... again if you tinker,  the heating element in a pot, they all 
pretty much are the same thing, the wattage may vary slightly but you 
seen one you pretty much seen them all.... they cost a few bucks,  
replace it...either get one new from an appliance shop or goto a thrift 
shop get a cheap ass pot, take the heater out of that one and put it in 
yours......
or just get the technivorn and know it's a good pot at the right temp, 
though quite expensive....
several choices to choose from depending on how adventurous you feel.
Aaron....
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4) From: Aaron Scholten
let me add here.
I just read sandy's post. and yes that is a killer with any coffee is  
letting the pot stew on the hot plate..... Even if you go the more 
'affordable' route,  if the coffee is going to set more than an hour... 
do yourself a big favor, invest in one of those nissan thermos' sweet 
marias sells, pour it in one of those to keep it warm,... they have one 
that will take an entire pot of coffee plus (trust me I use it fishing).
Wait you are a lawyer, you might sue me, I better retract that 
statement.... The nissan wont' keep your coffee warm.....if you want to 
keep the coffee HOT, put it in a nissan thermos.  Those things are 
insanely efficient.  I have literally had coffee poured fresh from brew 
into one and 24 hours later, it was still hot enough to make you go ouch 
when you pour it on your hand by mistake.  The coffee will taste so much 
better from the thermos as well, and depending on your set up, you get 
busy and don't have time to run to the coffee mess for refills,  keep 
the thermos at your side at your desk, just pick it up, give the top a 
turn and pour yourself a fresh cup on the spot.
aaron

5) From: Barry Luterman
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Just bought a Technivorm for my daughter. When I call and ask about my =
grandson all she talks about is the Technivorm and what a great father I =
am. John you might want to check and find out if my grandson is in the =
slammer. All she talks about is the coffee maker.

6) From: John B. Webster
Aaron:  thank you and you were not the sarcasm that I was referring to . And
no it is not part of a bonus plan.  And no, Brett and GINny are not my idea
of advice. Frankly, I can .....and will leave it alone.....  I have three ex
wives and don't need to be an outlet for the Gang of 4 maybe 5. 
 But thank you for your very detailed and appropriate advice
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
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7) From: Eddie Dove
"Do I really want a Technivorm?"
Yes, sir.  Those two well-spent C-notes about 18 months ago has
produced an average of three carafes of exquisite elixir per day.  The
Technivorm has no frills; it does one thing and it does it exceedingly
well.  Also, everything comes apart easily so that keeping it clean is
a simple task.
If its another drip brewer you want, I would recommend the Technivorm
without hesitation.
Respectfully,
Eddie
-- 
Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On Oct 30, 2007 6:40 PM, John B. Webster
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8) From: David Martin
On 10/30/07, John B. Webster  wrote:
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I have not used the Technivorm, but I can vouch for the idea that
coffee makers that don't heat the water enough, produce inferior
coffee.  I did a taste test, with my old drip maker vs melitta filter
w/ boiling water. The coffee from the machine noticeably lacked flavor
compared to the same coffee brewed w/ boiling water.

9) From: Aaron Scholten
3 exes  oh eeps.  I got one and that's more than enough....    seriously 
though.... everyone here can bloat and pontificate on how wonderful this 
or that is.... snobbily bragging about the $%^$#  money they spent on a 
coffee pot or whatever...... what matters is how it tastes to you.  If 
you are happy with your old coffee pot, then that is all that really 
matters isn't it?  I will admit, brewing at 195 degrees or so makes a 
profound difference over the 150 ish some of the cheaper pots put out.
heres a little test you can try to see if you really want to go through 
all the BS to make the water hotter....
get your coffee pot,  if it is one of those that has that 'cup stealer' 
feature... ie the little stopper that when you take the pot out it keeps 
the water from spurting out anymore then you are in luck.... most of the 
times when a pot is brewing, the coffee bucket is pretty much full of 
water waiting to dribble down.. i mean .. the water stops actually 
burbling into the thing probably 5 minutes before the coffee finally 
trickles down.....  ok with this.
do up a pot like you would normally do it... BUT instead of the pot 
making the water  take a container and microwave the water until it 
juuuust  starts to boil. take it out, and carefully pour it into the 
ground bucket.  (ie you are NOT using your coffee pot to heat the 
water)  let it set in there a minute or two, then put the pot under to 
let it drip out into the pot..... now pour rest of water into grounds 
and let it go through that way..... now you brewed with the hotter water 
instead of the cooler water the pot generally puts out..... give the 
coffee a try. see if it is any better to you,  if you CAN taste the 
difference and like it, then you might want to seriously consider the 
modifications I mentioned or a technivorn, if it really isn't that much 
of a big difference to you then youd be smarter to save your money and 
stick with your type of pot you are already familiar with.  Im probably 
going to get hung for saying this but, how YOU like it is the most 
important thing to consider.
aaron
J

10) From: Brett Mason
John, I bought a Presto when K-Mart had them for $15 each.  You may still
find one there.  Assertedly it has the similar temp to Technivorm, or
Melitta Clarity...
I haven't heard of any "newer" brewer since the Presto or Clarity that
offers similar temperature control for brewing...
Good luck,
Brett
On 10/30/07, John B. Webster  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

11) From: Barry Luterman
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Brett I bought 4 Prestos for my family including my daughter. Each =
lasted less than a year. The switches went in all of them. The switches =
are hardwired in and cannot be replaced. As a matter of fact the =
daughter who just got the Technivorm was an original recipient of one of =
the Prestos

12) From: Brett Mason
That's a drag.  Means my standby Presto, in the basement, is
time-limited....
Alas, that's a problem.  Aaron's solution of insulating the hot water tube
is awesome - gunna try that in the future...
B.
On 10/30/07, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

13) From: raymanowen
Technivorm is good. If you like coffee, you want one. It's a very flexible
machine. Read Tom's notes on the TV.
I don't use any paper filters usually, but I would guesstimate I have brewed
well over 500 times with it. It gives no indication, but maybe it's ready
for its 3rd cleanout with the drip pot cleaner from the grocery. (#2 was
just a vinegar solution.) Vinegar was fine, naysayers notwithstanding- I
didn't have any commercial gunk, anyway.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On 10/30/07, John B. Webster  wrote:
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Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

14) From: David
What about a Newco OCS brewer?  Less than a Technivorm
and certified by the SCAA.
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15) From: James Raven
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16) From: Sean Cary
2nd that...  I have had one (Presto Scandinavian) running along
happily since Feb 06 - wife and I used it every day...  I got it at
the PX for less then $20.00, there were still some in K-mart when I
was home.
I have three spares that cost less then $20.00 stored in the attic...
Sean
In Fallujah, and jonesing for coffee from my Presto with my wife...(sigh)
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17) From: Vicki Smith
If you are not wedded to the drip part of the whole thing, you might 
want to give the Krups Moka Brewer a go. It is available in the states 
again through various on-line sources, and makes a mighty good pot of 
coffee.
vicki
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18) From: Justin Marquez
On 10/30/07, John B. Webster  wrote:
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Of COURSE you want a Technivorm!  You are just casting about for
rationalization from the troops herein.
If you just want great coffee, get a #4 cone filter and put a Swissgold
metal filter down in it, grind the coffee for french press and make "cowboy
coffee"  - then filter it through the filter setup directly into a nice
thermos.  That way, you can control the brew temp and extraction time to
suit yourself and the thermos will hold the coffee much better than a carafe
sitting on a hot plate. (The technivorm doesn't do that... just talking
generalities)
It is not as convenient as the Techni, but it is a LOT cheaper. And the
cleanup is easier than a press pot.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

19) From: Floyd Lozano
I think I am the only person in the world to prefer paper filters to the
swissgold.  I just do not like sediment, and I can't seem to avoid it (maybe
I need to clean Rocky more regularly).  I use Melitta filters, which I
prefer to standard paper ones (Melittas don't clog on me, another indicator
I may be getting too many fines in my grind I guess!)
-F
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20) From: Gary Townsend
You are not alone, Floyd!
I brew my daily BC (Before Coffee) in a Norelco Ready Brew (Circa 1970's)
directly into a Chemex with the white paper filters.
Why? The Norelco machine brews from 195F to 203F and it only cost me $3. at
a yard sale. The Chemex fits under it perfectly.
I also grind with Rocky at a fairly coarse setting of +25 from the numerical
zero on the hopper (or 50 notches from true zero).
I probably have 1/2 dozen french presses gathering dust & 2 of them have the
swiss gold insert. I also brew espresso with my Rocky, and my Livia 90S has
not had any dust/fines problems. If it did, I'd change burrs, but they are
still fairly sharp. I use the hose attachment from my wifes vac cleaner to
suck out all the remains in Rocky, about 3 X a week, as needed. I like to
dis-assemble the hopper and wash everything once a month.
Gary
On 11/1/07, Floyd Lozano wrote:
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21) From: Julie Tieszen
Floyd,
You aren't the ONLY one. I don't like sediment either. I want a=
 crisp, clean cup of coffee. I try to use my Swissgold but I always go back=
 to paper.
Julie
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From: Floyd Lozano=
 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursda=
y, November 1, 2007 8:15:15 AM
Subject: Re: +Brewers
I think I am th=
e only person in the world to prefer paper filters to the swissgold.  I jus=
t do not like sediment, and I can't seem to avoid it (maybe I need to clean=
 Rocky more regularly).  I use Melitta filters, which I prefer to standard =
paper ones (Melittas don't clog on me, another indicator I may be getting t=
oo many fines in my grind I guess!)
-F
 
On 10/31/07, Jus=
tin Marquez  wrote:
On 10/30/07, John B. We=
bster  wrote: 
Folk:  I n=
eed advice.  My drip brewer is dying.  (Read dead.)  Do I really want a Tec=
hnivorm?  I used a Cuisinart DCC1200 that did not lats a year.  Daily use n=
ot more than two per day and it lasted 
1.5 years for a C-note.   Any tho=
ughts/   
 
BTW:  Sarcasm and the gang of four (maybe 5) need not=
 respond.
 
Of COURSE you want a Technivorm!  You are ju=
st casting about for rationalization from the troops herein.
 
If=
 you just want great coffee, get a #4 cone filter and put a Swissgold metal=
 filter down in it, grind the coffee for french press and make "cowboy coff=
ee"  - then filter it through the filter setup directly into a nice thermos=
.  That way, you can control the brew temp and extraction time to suit your=
self and the thermos will hold the coffee much better than a carafe sitting=
 on a hot plate. (The technivorm doesn't do that... just talking generaliti=
es) 
 
It is not as convenient as the Techni, but it is a LOT =
cheaper. And the cleanup is easier than a press pot.
Safe Journeys =
and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX) 

22) From: Brett Mason
You mihgt love coffee from a vacuum brewer - my Cory makes an incredibly
clean cup, but the glass filter does allow the richness from the oils to
come through..,..
On 11/1/07, Julie Tieszen  wrote:
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23) From: Doug Boutell
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Floyd,
You can also use a 35 x35 .010  mesh screen to filter out the fines.
With my mini-mazzer I usually  get about 36 grains  of fines,  Rocky 30.
 480 grains  is 1 ounce. Or about 1 tablespoon of  fines. Press pot , 
drip are excellent
and vac pot does not stall anymore.
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24) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
"This coffee tastes like Mud!" Strange, it was ground this morning.
I too dislike the sediment in most of my coffees. They seem to continualy
change the flavor of the cup downward toward a sludge taste and mouthfeel.
On the other hands I have had a few that remained good to the last plop.
My French Presses both at home and at work have Swiss Gold (in the case at
work a cheap knock off just to hold the paper.) I have found that the
unbleached paper is better tasting.
The folks I brew for at work (we're up to 9 now) probably would grinch about
the fines if I didn't use the paper.
Terry...about to order 50# from Tom & Maria...T
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25) From: Larry English
I have to agree with Brett this time - the Presto Scandinavian is a pretty
nice brewer for not many bucks - if you can find one.  I've had mine for
over a year with no problems and 3 pots a day.  Measurements of water temp
have been in the 195-200F range whenever taken.  The "hot plate" problem
exists (as with the TV) but I always pour into a thermos (Nissan or
Zojirushi) right after brewing so it isn't really a problem.  Its also a
little less massive than the TV.  The only real problem is finding one.
Otherwise - its big bucks for the TV.
Larry
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26) From: Larry English
Oh, and about paper filters - I use the Filtropa filters - used to find them
locally but now I order them from Tom & Maria.  Have never gotten the taste
of paper from those, but of course they do remove most of the oils.  So it
goes ...
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27) From: Eddie Dove
Hey John,
Did we help you out here at all?  Let us know what you decided.
Eddie
-- 
Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On Oct 30, 2007 6:40 PM, John B. Webster
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28) From: Justin Marquez
Well... then just put a paper filter in the cone instead of the SG. The only
drawback is that the pour-thru decant  takes longer, so you have to allow
for that in the extraction time.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 11/1/07, Floyd Lozano  wrote:
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29) From: Phil Bergman Jungle Music
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30) From: Phil Bergman Jungle Music
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31) From: Dave Kvindlog
It may be just my e-mail setup, but I'm not able to see anything you're
writing, Phil.  Are you using some funky e-mail setup?
Just roasted my favorite: Nicaragua Placeres Estate Miel.  Can't wait til
Monday (3 days rest)!!!
Dave Kvindlog
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32) From: raymanowen
Man say, "Can't wait til Monday (3 days rest)!!!"
Ray says, "Why wait til Monday (3 days rest)???"
A certain Brazil Fazenda Ipanema is going through the rigors of waiting
patiently, while Yours Truly is not. As soon as it was cool from a Vienna
(-) roast, I split some into 14g quantities in sandwich ZipLoc bags with the
air pressed out. The portion in the Mason jar awaits patiently. It ain't me,
babe.
They didn't even stay flat overnight, and We Know what that Mystery Volume
is that made the bags limp. Same gas that pushed out micro whiffs of that
wonderful aroma! I've sampling this roast in 14g quantities from T=0.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Waiting is not one of my strengths-
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33) From: Phil Bergman Jungle Music
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Dave,
It's the most peculiar thing.  I didn't post on this thread at all.  In
fact, I didn't even read this thread.  I did read about the Panama Carmen
Estate Coffee 1800 meters last night and clicked through a message (at the
bottom) to get to Sweet Marias to order.  Go figure.  BTW, when I see this
many people rave about a coffee, I know it's got to be good.
Phil

34) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
I went from a Cuisinart (don't recall model number) to a Technivorm.  The
quality of the drip was definitely improved.
It felt a little odd spending that much on a "coffee maker", but there've
been no regrets since.
-- 
Brent
My coffee is better than it tastes
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35) From: Dave Kvindlog
Man says "Can't wait til Monday (e days rest)!!!"
Ray says, "Why wait til Monday (3 days rest)???"
May says, "RayO's RIGHT."
Couldn't wait.  Woke up this morning and yearned for that Nicaragua Placeres
Estate Miel that I had roasted to FC last night.  Such a wonderful medium
body with chocolate and nutty notes.  My current favorite.  So made a pot
and remembered why I had ordered 5# of it.  Ground it with my new "old"
Zassenhaus that I finally received from Germany last week (slow boat!).  A
good grinder does improve the brew.
Sitting now on my back porch reading e-mail, this list, and sipping another
pot of coffee.  Only 45F here in Iowa tonight, but I'm cozy and relaxed.
This is the life.
Dave
ihomeroast
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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36) From: gin
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 wrote:
  Folk:  I need advice.  My drip brewer is dying.  (Read dead.) Do I really want a Technivorm?  I used a Cuisinart DCC1200 that did not lats
 a year.  Daily use not more than two per day and it lasted 1.5years for a C-note.   Any thoughts/
 BTW:  Sarcasm and the gang of four (maybe 5) need not respond.
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well, well, John it's so nice to see you again, why not just drink all of you coffee at the prison, maybe they even have a used pot you can buy for 5 or 10 bucks and save the C-note!!!
one of the gang-o-any number
ginny

37) From: John B. Webster
GINny:  good to see you still close to sober.  Good morning and thank =
you kindly for your ever inappropriate sarcastic comments. 
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

38) From: Barry Luterman
More importantly What did you decide to do about a brewer purchase?

39) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Here Here, do tell.... What was the decision?
Dennis

40) From: gin
john, you would most likely have more room to talk about coffee if you knocked off some of your who I am stuff. ginny
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41) From: John B. Webster
Barry, good to hear form you again.   A Technivorm KB 741 Graphite.  =
Seemed like an inevitable purchase.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

42) From: John B. Webster
GINny:  What was that a brief moment of self perceived clarity.   I have =
all the room I need to talk coffee----it is infinite if I recall.  =
Please go away, little girl,  you are looking for a fight and some =
vitriol and I am not your guy.   
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

43) From: John B. Webster
 A Technivorm KB741 -graphite.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
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44) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Good choice.... How do you like it so far?
V/R,
Dennis
FC1(SW/AW) Dennis W. True
Safety Dept. TPO
Safety DISL Rep.
SAFETY Dept. CC
Ships CV-SHARP Administrator
DCTT Repair locker 1F
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69)
FPO AE 09532-2830
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the ATLANTIC!!!!!!
 
"Life Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten it..."
P.S. 1 favor, can you please keep the personal fights off the list,
Thank you.

45) From: John B. Webster
I haven't received it yet, but I will let you know.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

46) From: Barry Luterman
Any reason for picking a glass carafe and the reheat function over the metal 
carafe. I bought my daughter the metal one . She loves it. I recommended it 
to a friend's brother. He says he would rather have the one you bought. He 
has trouble pouring from the spot of the metal carafe and doesn't mind the 
taste of warmed over coffee.

47) From: John B. Webster
Yes, I am up at 4:00 am and out at 4:30.  I have one cup at home and a large
to go one on the way to the office.  I ram the only coffee drinker here and
I would rather make another 1/2 pot when I come home than reheat.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

48) From: Brett Mason
Nice choice...
On 11/4/07, John B. Webster  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

49) From: raymanowen
On Nov 4, 2007 6:39 PM, Brett Mason  wrote:
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John, in my opinion, it's crazy good when you just use a press grind and
25-30g (1/4c) of coffee in a Gold mesh filter for a half carafe 20 oz brew.
Brew in the glass carafe with the plastic fill pipe in place.
Fill the reservoir to the mid point- 5 cups of water, and let it brew with
the valve closed until the basket is nearly full. Turn Off the power.
Gently stir the basket, after a minute or better open the valve to 1/2 and
turn the power back On.
Think you've made some pretty good coffee before? The TV will be
outstanding, especially if you take a little time to babysit it.
Complete the brew in the carafe, pour your initial reward cup and fill your
insulated travel cup. That should wipe out the half carafe- adjust to suit.
Quick cleanup, aweigh the anchor and off you go with the best coffee under
the sun!
With my daughter driving, we only hit the high spots on I-25 from Cheyenne
to Billings, where my Nissan insulated travel mug was still pleasantly hot!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?
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