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Topic: Moka pot for lungo coffees (14 msgs / 228 lines)
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In Italy, I came to prefer a "lungo" to other methods of producing a =
breakfast.  The best coffee bars sold me.   Frequently the order meant a =
double espresso "lengthened" by adding some six ounces of hot water.  =
Does the modern moka pot lend itself to such use?

2) From: Vicki Smith
No. Stove Top Espresso (the moka pot) is not *espresso*. It is a 
strong(ish) coffee made under much less pressure than the real deal. Try 
it as is, and see if you like it.
v
johnmhowison wrote: Does the modern moka pot lend itself to 
such use?

3) From: Dave
I happen to be drinking just such a cup right now. Sumatra classic
Mandheling roasted yesterday to FC+, brewed in the moka pot and added
hot water. I love my moka pot.
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On Oct 31, 2007 1:40 PM,   wrote:
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4) From: Dave
On Oct 31, 2007 1:54 PM, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps

5) From: Dave
Oops, sorry about that last message, here's what I meant to say...
Vicki, I won't argue about whether its espresso, but if yours is only
"strongish" you and I must do something differently. I use 25 - 26
grams of grounds extracted into about 2-3 oz of water (I never
measured). I brew until the color lightens then stop it by setting the
bottom of the pot into a bowl of cold water to kill the boil. I'd
definitely call it more than "strongish."
No fighting, just trying to learn;)
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On Oct 31, 2007 1:54 PM, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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6) From: Vicki Smith
I never know what to say about coffee. What does strong actually mean? 
People who are used to drip think the coffee out of my KMB should grow 
hair on one's chest (even mine and I'm a girly-girl).  The moka pot 
coffee, coffee from my vac pot, French Press and the stuff I drink 
routinely from my KMB, I think of not as really strong, but more sorta 
differently styled.
v
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7) From: Dave
Yeah, some people I know, think my coffee is really strong too. I
don't have any use fort the colored water they brew either;-)  I'll
have to break down and spend the bucks for a KMB one of these days. So
many places to spend money... As far as the moka pot, I usually add
10-12 oz water to the 2 or 3 oz of brew, That takes it from strong to
strongish;-)
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On Oct 31, 2007 2:55 PM, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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8) From: Brian Kamnetz
Seems like the consensus is that the Krups Moka Brew works best for
full pots or fairly full pots. If you are happy with the amount of
coffee you get from the moka pot, you probably wouldn't use the KMB a
lot. I use a 6-tasse moka pot and very seldom use my KMB.
Brian
On 10/31/07, Dave  wrote:
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9) From: Dave
Thanks Brian. I didn't know that about the KMB. I'm the only coffee
drinker in the house, so I wouldn't normally use it for a full pot. My
moka pot is a 6 tasse also, and it suits me fine. Guess I can put that
money towards something else;-)
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On Oct 31, 2007 5:39 PM, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:
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10) From: Vicki Smith
We do two full KMB pots every morning--one for drinking at home in the 
early AM and the second for taking with us to work in our Thermos Nissan 
bottles :). You can make a half pot (20 ounces) just fine if you put a 
filter on top of the coffee to slow the water down a bit before it runs 
through the grounds, but I probably wouldn't buy one if I had no real 
use for the capacity it offers.
I have a four cup moka pot, and use that for single mugs of coffee. I 
don't dilute it.
vicki
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11) From: Brian Kamnetz
The Krups Moka Brew is a fine coffee maker; I have 3 of them (I was
afraid that mine would break and I wouldn't be able to replace it). Of
all the electric coffee makers, I prefer that one (though i haven't
tried a Technivorm). If you are considering an electric coffee maker,
I certainly recommend considering the Krups Moka Brew. The character
of the coffee from the KMB is a bit different from what I get from my
moka pot, but though different is certainly as good to my palate. But,
as I said, if you are happy with the volume of your 6-tasse moka pot,
it is likely that you would not use the KMB very often.
Brian
On 10/31/07, Dave  wrote:
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12) From: Vicki Smith
Brian, you can order the rubber seals and gaskets from Krups. Unless you 
happen to break the carafe, the only thing not likely to be fixable on 
the KMB is a worn out seal. It's a very low tech machine with no 
electronics and no moving parts.
I bought an extra machine when they were being discontinued and I have 
an extra carafe as well. Recently, I left my old one with a friend when 
I was on holiday and picked up a new one in the states to replace it. I 
had used the old one for three years without any problems, and I brew 12 
pots a week with it.
vicki
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13) From: Brian Kamnetz
Hi Vicki,
Good to know that it is as repairable as that. I bought one when they
were being closed out for $50 including shipping, and loved it so much
I couldn't bear the thought of being without it, so I bought two more
at $50 each. (I bought a whole machine for $50 rather than just the
spare carafe for nearly that much.) That was before I had a moka pot.
Being the only coffee drinker in the house, the 6-tasse moka pot is
perfect for me. I use 26 grams of coffee ground to a fine grit, and
brew at the slowest seep I can produce. I personally love the results
that I get this way, and sip on one 12-oz mug through most of the day.
But, if I ever want to stark brewing moka by the potful, I'm set!
Brian
On 11/1/07, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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14) From: Leo Zick
in italy (and here), a lungo is a shot thats run long.  2-3oz shot.
a lungo will typically taste bitter and watery.
an americano is a shot with water added.
i will admit though, ive never known one can produce a breakfast in a long
manner.  ;)
On 10/31/07, johnmhowison  wrote:
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