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Topic: behmor roaster arrival date (33 msgs / 1299 lines)
1) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
It is possible that we might have behmors ready to ship out a week 
from tomorrow, i.e. Monday the 12th. That means I can test over the 
weekend prior and i would turn on ordering for them on Saturday the 
10th. If there are delays at port or unloading, it would be a few 
days later. i will let the list know (and post on the weblog) when we 
have it firmed up. josh and i are working on the web page which will 
be a bit data-heavy but we'll try to sum up some of our findings 
briefly: basically it could save you a lot of time to avoid certain 
batch size/ roast setting combinations. btw: it's 299, comes with a 
free 8 pack sampler which will be very handy for your initial roasts, 
and we are giving a shipping discount which will make ship cost by 
ups nearly zilch for nearby states and very little for anything 
further. that's good because the roaster is heavy (20 lbs by itself).
Tom
PS: because the issue with the behmor drum and small-bean coffees or 
longberry coffees (they lodge in the screen or fall through) the 
sampler would not include coffees like harar. yemen is not advised at 
this point. super high chaff coffees are a bit difficult ... anyway, 
all these CAN be done but we don't think it's the first type of 
coffee you should throw in your new roaster. so our sampler would be 
tuned to the behmor. later, there will be a fine-screen drum 
available that is better for yemens and harars and such. it's not 
ready yet though.
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2) From: Steve
On Nov 4, 11:45 am, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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Tom, thank you for the update!
For early adopters, any word on what this upgraded drum will cost when
it is available, and when? (e.g., days, weeks, months, or years) If
this is a fairly big design flaw, is there a chance Behmor will be
providing a fix to the existing drums at no cost?
Steve

3) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Steve,
	here is what Joe sent out today it might answer your questions.
Concerning the Cost of the secondary durm with the finer screen I think
(someone please correct me if I am wrong) Joe said somewhere areound the
$20-$25 range for starters.
-----pasted from the Behmor update-----
To All,
Good morning..
Here is the latest news about the roasters and delivery.
According to the cargo ship's website, around 7 am Pacific time the ship
carrying Behmor 1600s had berthed in the Port of Long Beach.
Before the ship even arrived we were applying for pre-clearances and as
of Fridays communications from my broker and freight forwarders the
roasters should clear customs easily and depart port early this week for
the main warehouse.
Barring an unforeseen circumstances and natural disasters every
distributor should have inventory by Friday the 9th of Monday the 12th.
The main issue is what day they are released from port will dictate
which day they are with the distributors. Quantities will be limited
throughout the holidays and not by choice so please place your order
early to insure receiving the your roaster
Now to another issue and mores specifically the smaller grid cylinder.
For a host or reasons they will be arriving in about one month. This had
to do with container space and customs docs. I'm doing everything I can
to expedite their arrivals.
Operations manual. 
I strongly suggest you request your distributor email you the latest
revision of the manual so you can do a little light reading before your
roaster arrives. I can 100% guarantee you doing this will make using the
Behmor easier and more enjoyable. I really recommend you pay close
attention to the tips I provide at the start of Part V. These are things
Ive learned from using the roaster and know it will benefit everyone.
Each distributor has it and if they can't supply it please let me know.
Later this week the Behmor website will have it posted in a downloadable
pdf file or paged to simply read online.
I repeat............. read the manual......before using the roaster.
Please.....
Once again I want to thank everyone for their patience and kind words.
Should you have any questions after reading the manual or comments
please feel free in contacting me. I want everyone to feel very
comfortable with how to use the roaster even before they open the box.
Thank you again
Best regards
Joe Behm
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Dennis

4) From: Aaron Scholten
thank you for the behmor update tom, I am waiting for this one 
anxiously...  im worse than a kid 3 days before christmas looking at his 
presents here ok........
Ill be getting two of them immediately  one for me, one for eddie.....  
.. just in time too because im almost out of roasted coffee
aaron

5) From: Eddie Dove
Thank you, Aaron!  THANK YOU AARON!!  THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AARON!!!
I can't wait to get this roaster!
Eddie
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6) From: gin
Tom has said that you will be last on the list to be sent a machine because you
belong to homeroasters and were in IMBIBE magazine.
hahahahahaha...
ginny
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7) From: Bryan Wray
Do we need to pre-order Tom?
-Bry
 
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8) From: Steve
On Nov 4, 4:31 pm, Steve  wrote:
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FWIW, I just got an email from Jim Behmor who informed me that the
drum design was a compomize between between chaff collection and
roasting small bean size, and that the alternative drum should be
available within ~4 weeks at a reasonable price.  He seems like a real
stand-up guy.  I look forward to Tom's review of the product and its
availability.

9) From: Douglas Erickson
I'm sitting here watching a bad B-horror movie (are there any good ones) 
dreaming of the Behmor.
but, but. but ... I never, ever, buy the first run of a product.  Not my 
minivan, not my bike, heck most of my books are second edition. ;)  No 
offense to Jim, but end users always use products different than the 
designer/engineer/programmer intended.  This is good; it reveals stuff.
Anyhow ... I have such an itch for this glorious hardware!!  Anyone else 
with the same moral conundrum
Doug

10) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
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Yep - I feel the same way BUT I still may get the first run. Wish I  
knew how long until the next run would be available.
dave
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but, but. but ... I never, = ever, buy the first run of a product.  Not my minivan, not my bike, = heck most of my books are second edition. ;)  No offense to Jim, but end = users always use products different than the = designer/engineer/programmer intended.  This is good; it reveals = stuff.

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11) From: James Raven
Why should the consumer have to pay for an oversight by the designer? I und=
erstand his hurry to get it into the market place for sale after his years =
of work,  but shouldn't anyone who purchases one early get the updated drum=
 for free, or even possible just the shipping cost? Other than that the pro=
duct sounds like what many Dedicated people have been waiting for. He will =
still do a good amount of profitable business to the coffee addicts, IMO. I=
 guess it's The prices we pay for our passion for good coffee.
good Luck to All.
Respectively & Hopeful 
Jim
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12) From: Ken Schillinger
This echos my thoughts exactly. How many times can one person be burned by 
being an early adopter without learning? :-)
Ken.

13) From: Larry Johnson
At least the early adopters of the Behmor aren't getting soaked on the
purchase price, a la most other new gadget releases.
On Nov 7, 2007 6:11 AM, Ken Schillinger  wrote:
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14) From: Alchemist John
hurry to market?  This has got to be one of the 
last things Joe is doing.  He has been at this 8 
years, tweaking, perfecting, testing, getting 
feedback, and tweaking some more, plus then more 
testing.  You can pre-test a product to death 
because NO PRODUCT like this will EVER be perfect 
to EVERYONE.  You just have to draw the line in 
the sand somewhere and say "Here" - no major 
flaws - works as envisioned - let's move on.
The other drum that is being talked about is not 
due to a "design flaw".  It is a smaller mesh 
size for smaller beans and is an extra 
alternative drum.  The tradeoff is it doesn't 
drop the chaff as well.  We the consumer get to 
choose if you need the smaller drum.
At 23:38 11/6/2007, you wrote:
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15) From: Rich
 From what I have read and heard the Behmor 1600 has been engineered and 
tested to death.  At a initial market price that is about half of the 
other home drum roasters and twice the capacity it is a bargain.
If you demand perceived perfection may I suggest ordering a 1kg Probat 
or similar roaster.  All you will need is a handful of permits and 5k+ 
dollars.
Alchemist John wrote:
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16) From: miKe mcKoffee
Well said Alchemist. For those who are "afraid" of the 1st released run for
sale in the market place many have obviously not been following various
threads on various forums discussing the Behmor testing for months BY
NUMEROUS EXPERIENCED HOME ROASTERS AND PROFESSIONALS. Do your research
rather than make assumptions.
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	Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:51 AM
	
	hurry to market?  This has got to be one of the last things Joe is
doing.  He has been at this 8 years, tweaking, perfecting, testing, getting
feedback, and tweaking some more, plus then more testing.  You can pre-test
a product to death because NO PRODUCT like this will EVER be perfect to
EVERYONE.  You just have to draw the line in the sand somewhere and say
"Here" - no major flaws - works as envisioned - let's move on.
	
	The other drum that is being talked about is not due to a "design
flaw".  It is a smaller mesh size for smaller beans and is an extra
alternative drum.  The tradeoff is it doesn't drop the chaff as well.  We
the consumer get to choose if you need the smaller drum.
	
	At 23:38 11/6/2007, you wrote:
	
		Why should the consumer have to pay for an oversight by the
designer? I understand his hurry to get it into the market place for sale
after his years of work,  but shouldn't anyone who purchases one early get
the updated drum for free, or even possible just the shipping cost? Other
than that the product sounds like what many Dedicated people have been
waiting for. He will still do a good amount of profitable business to the
coffee addicts, IMO. I guess it's The prices we pay for our passion for good
coffee.
		good Luck to All.
		
		Respectively & Hopeful 
		Jim

17) From: Scott Miller
I'll be on one of these machines as an early adopter.
Been following the threads both here and on CG.
I've been impressed with the effort and information I've seen so far from
Joe, and look forward to supporting him..
cheers,
Scott
On Nov 7, 2007 9:04 AM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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18) From: James Raven
Maybe some of the concerns by users are misunderstood by the public. What i=
s considered to be a small bean that wouldn't be appropriate in the Behmor?=
 I haven't anything else bad or concerning about it but i do seem to roast =
a lot of the "Smaller Types" of beans so goes my concern. Just making sure.
To: homeroast
From: John
Subject: RE: +behmor roaster arrival date
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:51:23 -0800
hurry to market?  This has got to be one of the last things Joe is
doing.  He has been at this 8 years, tweaking, perfecting, testing,
getting feedback, and tweaking some more, plus then more testing.
You can pre-test a product to death because NO PRODUCT like this will
EVER be perfect to EVERYONE.  You just have to draw the line in the
sand somewhere and say "Here" - no major flaws - works as
envisioned - let's move on.
The other drum that is being talked about is not due to a "design
flaw".  It is a smaller mesh size for smaller beans and is an
extra alternative drum.  The tradeoff is it doesn't drop the chaff
as well.  We the consumer get to choose if you need the smaller
drum.
At 23:38 11/6/2007, you wrote:
Why should the consumer have to
pay for an oversight by the designer? I understand his hurry to get it
into the market place for sale after his years of work,  but
shouldn't anyone who purchases one early get the updated drum for free,
or even possible just the shipping cost? Other than that the product
sounds like what many Dedicated people have been waiting for. He will
still do a good amount of profitable business to the coffee addicts, IMO.
I guess it's The prices we pay for our passion for good coffee.
good Luck to All.
Respectively & Hopeful
Jim
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19) From: John Brown
buy it and do the testing, not enough money to worry about.
maybe the cost of a good party for friends at your home.
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20) From: James Raven
Does anyone know if there will include some kind of guide of which beans no=
t to use because of their size in the Behmor? I actually Respect Behm's eff=
orts to bring such an item to market, just had higher hopes for it because =
of the smallish beans i tend to roast.  Didn't mean to offend all you folk.
hope that run works out for you well and satisfactorily. Never heard any re=
ports on what kind of beans were tested, used in testing, or what to expect=
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21) From: JD Foster
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Per the manual, version 3.3:
"The standard cylinder that ships with the roaster is not designed for 
use with small bean types such as Ethiopian, Yemeni or blends containing 
either. A separate cylinder w/ smaller grid is available through your 
retailer for use with those bean types or blends"
James Raven wrote:
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22) From: James Raven
wish I had been sent the manual, or maybe even been in on the coffee club b=
uy of several hundred of them this past week. I apologize for my ignorance.=
 Some of my other beans are also very smallish, as is the Ethiopian, which =
is one of my favorites. Oh well, that's life. It's said and done.
Hava Great Day
Jidd - I bet you have one already?
From: jidd
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:14:46 -0800
Per the manual, version 3.3:
"The standard cylinder that ships with the roaster is not designed for
use with small bean types such as Ethiopian, Yemeni or blends
containing either. A separate cylinder w/ smaller grid is available
through your retailer for use with those bean types or blends"
James Raven wrote:
Does anyone know if there will include some kind of guide of which beans no=
t to use because of their size in the Behmor? I actually Respect Behm's eff=
orts to bring such an item to market, just had higher hopes for it because =
of the smallish beans i tend to roast.  Didn't mean to offend all you folk.
hope that run works out for you well and satisfactorily. Never heard any re=
ports on what kind of beans were tested, used in testing, or what to expect=
.
Be Happy, Live For coffee
Jim
From: ken
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 03:11:07 -0800
This echos my thoughts exactly. How many times can one person be burned by
being an early adopter without learning? :-)
Ken.

23) From: JD Foster
I wish...  I'm anxiously awaiting the upgrade from my popper with 
everyone else. :-)  BTW, I'm sending you the manual off-list.
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24) From: Frank Awbrey
Sweet Maria's web site has the Behmor up already, if you didn't know. I
think there is a link to the manual on it to ("I think")?
James, I honestly think you're making too much of this. But, that's only my
humble opinion :>).
On 11/7/07, JD Foster  wrote:
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25) From: James Raven
just going on what I've read and like to roast. I have no real problems wit=
h the product or it's designer, Joe seems like a good reputable guy, I'm ju=
st not someone who wants to or needs to constantly update. I guess he will =
do fine business wise and I applaud him for his work. Too many different op=
inions and which ones do I take with more weight?  No big deal, and thank y=
ou for the info on the Manual.
Hava Great Day,
James
From: frankeegee1
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:12:56 -0700
Sweet Maria's web site has the Behmor up already, if you didn't know. I thi=
nk there is a link to the manual on it to ("I think")?
James, I honestly think you're making too much of this. But, that's only my=
 humble opinion :>).
On 11/7/07, JD Foster  wrote:
I wish...  I'm anxiously awaiting the upgrade from my popper with
everyone else. :-)  BTW, I'm sending you the manual off-list.
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26) From: James Raven
Send me yours and I'll be glad to test it before i have that party. 
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27) From: Brett Mason
Hey Jim,
Just make sure you have a fall-back method to use for smaller beans...
Popper, HG/DB, skillet/wok, etc.  Something for the ones that won't go thru
the Behmor...  Then go for it!
Brett
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28) From: Robert Yoder
I don't find the Behmor on the SM site.  Please clarify for me.
 
Thanks,
 
robert yoder
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+behmor roaster arrival dateDate: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:12:56 -0700
Sweet Maria's web site has the Behmor up already, if you didn't know. I thi=
nk there is a link to the manual on it to ("I think")?
 
James, I honestly think you're making too much of this. But, that's only my=
 humble opinion :>).
 
On 11/7/07, JD Foster  wrote: 
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29) From: John Brown
ok maybe i will add you to the will. 
James Raven wrote:
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30) From: Jim Gundlach
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Robert,
     Just go to the main page and scroll down so you can click on the  
Fresh Roast Plus and it will take you to a window with various  
roasters including the Behmor.
    pecan jim
On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Robert Yoder wrote:
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Robert,   =
 Just go to the main page and scroll down so you can click on the =
Fresh Roast Plus and it will take you to a window with various roasters =
including the Behmor.   pecan jim
On =
Nov 7, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Robert Yoder wrote:
I don't find the = Behmor on the SM site.  Please clarify for = me.   Thanks,   robert = yoder From: frankeegee1 To: homeroast= s.com Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date Date: Wed, 7 = Nov 2007 15:12:56 -0700 Sweet Maria's web site has the = Behmor up already, if you didn't know. I think there is a link to the = manual on it to ("I think")? James, I = honestly think you're making too much of this. But, that's only my = humble opinion :>).  On 11/7/07, JD Foster <jidd> = wrote:I wish...  I'm anxiously awaiting = the upgrade from my popper with everyone else. :-)  BTW, = I'm sending you the manual off-list.  James Raven = wrote: > wish I had been sent the manual, or maybe even been in on = the coffee club buy of several hundred of them this past week. I = apologize for my ignorance. Some of my other beans are also very = smallish, as is the Ethiopian, which is one of my favorites. Oh well, = that's life. It's said and done.  > Hava Great = Day > Jidd - I bet you have one = already? > > > > = > From: jidd > To: homeroast= s.com > Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date > = Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:14:46 = -0800 > > > > > > > > &= gt; > Per the manual, version 3.3: > > "The standard = cylinder that ships with the roaster is not designed for > use = with small bean types such as Ethiopian, Yemeni or blends > = containing either. A separate cylinder w/ smaller grid is available  > through your = retailer for use with those bean types or = blends" > > > > > > James Raven = wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there will include = some kind of guide of which beans not to use because of their size in = the Behmor? I actually Respect Behm's efforts to bring such an item to = market, just had higher hopes for it because of the smallish beans i = tend to roast.  Didn't mean to offend all you folk.  > hope that run = works out for you well and satisfactorily. Never heard any reports on = what kind of beans were tested, used in testing, or what to = expect. > Be Happy, Live For coffee > = Jim > >  > > > &= gt; > > > From: ken > To: homeroast= s.com > Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date  > Date: Wed, 7 Nov = 2007 03:11:07 -0800 > > This echos my thoughts exactly. How = many times can one person be burned by > being an early adopter = without learning? :-) > Ken. > ----- Original Message = -----  > From: = Dave Ehrenkranz > To: homeroast= s.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:26 PM > = Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival date  > > > = Yep - I feel the same way BUT I still may get the first run. Wish I knew = how > long until the next run would be available. > = dave > > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Douglas = Erickson wrote:  > > > = but, but. but ... I never, ever, buy the first run of a product. Not = my > minivan, not my bike, heck most of my books are second = edition. ;) No > offense to Jim, but end users always use products = different than the  > = designer/engineer/programmer intended. This is good; it reveals = stuff. > > > Anyhow ... I have such an itch for this = glorious hardware!! Anyone else > with the same moral = conundrum >  > > > &= gt; > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by = AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: = 269.15.23/1113 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 > 10:04 = AM > > = > homeroast = mailing list > http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<=span class="Apple-converted-space">  > To change = your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go = tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s  > > ><= br>> > = > = Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live = OneCare! > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.as=px?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews > homeroast mailing list > http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<=/a> > To change your personal list settings (digest options, = vacations, unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s > > > > > > > > &= gt; = > = Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live = OneCare!  > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.as=px?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews  > homeroast = mailing list > http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<=/a> > To change your personal list settings (digest options, = vacations, unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s > ho= meroast mailing list http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<=/a> To change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, = unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s
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31) From: James Raven
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32) From: Robert Yoder
Thanks, Jim!
 
I never would have found it without your direction. Not yet available, but =
coming soon.  Presumably Tom and Maria will give the Behmor its own segment=
 on the roasters page when it is in stock. At the SM10 event I actually tri=
ed the thing with the assistance of Brad (Hawaiian Shirt Man) who had roast=
ed before me, and after failing miserably (Karoake overwhelmed cracks, whic=
h otherwise were actually audible with the Behmor) the second roast was goo=
d and I am still enjoying it. A lot.
 
I'm still trying to get a handle on the differences between Drum and Fluid-=
Bed Roasting results, but the Behmor Yirgacheffe I took home from SMs is re=
ally nice.
 
all the best to all of us,
 
robert
 
 
om: pecanjim: homeroast: Re: +=
behmor roaster arrival dateDate: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:57:10 -0600Robert, 
    Just go to the main page and scroll down so you can click on the Fresh =
Roast Plus and it will take you to a window with various roasters including=
 the Behmor.
   pecan jim
On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Robert Yoder wrote:
I don't find the Behmor on the SM site.  Please clarify for me. Thanks, rob=
ert yoder
From: frankeegee1: homeroast: Re: =
+behmor roaster arrival dateDate: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:12:56 -0700
Sweet Maria's web site has the Behmor up already, if you didn't know. I thi=
nk there is a link to the manual on it to ("I think")?
 
James, I honestly think you're making too much of this. But, that's only my=
 humble opinion :>).
 
On 11/7/07, JD Foster  wrote: 
I wish...  I'm anxiously awaiting the upgrade from my popper witheveryone e=
lse. :-)  BTW, I'm sending you the manual off-list. James Raven wrote:> wis=
h I had been sent the manual, or maybe even been in on the coffee club buy =
of several hundred of them this past week. I apologize for my ignorance. So=
me of my other beans are also very smallish, as is the Ethiopian, which is =
one of my favorites. Oh well, that's life. It's said and done. > Hava Great=
 Day> Jidd - I bet you have one already?>>>>=
__> From: jidd> To: homeroast> Subject: =
Re: +behmor roaster arrival date> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:14:46 -0800>>>>>=
<Snip>
 the roaster is not designed for> use with small bean types such as Ethiopi=
an, Yemeni or blends> containing either. A separate cylinder w/ smaller gri=
d is available > through your retailer for use with those bean types or ble=
nds">>>>>> James Raven wrote:>>> Does anyone know if there will include som=
e kind of guide of which beans not to use because of their size in the Behm=
or? I actually Respect Behm's efforts to bring such an item to market, just=
 had higher hopes for it because of the smallish beans i tend to roast.  Di=
dn't mean to offend all you folk. > hope that run works out for you well an=
d satisfactorily. Never heard any reports on what kind of beans were tested=
, used in testing, or what to expect.> Be Happy, Live For coffee> Jim>> >>>=
<Snip>
e: +behmor roaster arrival date > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 03:11:07 -0800>> Th=
is echos my thoughts exactly. How many times can one person be burned by> b=
eing an early adopter without learning? :-)> Ken.> ----- Original Message -=
---- > From: Dave Ehrenkranz> To: homeroast> Sent: Tu=
esday, November 06, 2007 10:26 PM> Subject: Re: +behmor roaster arrival dat=
e >>> Yep - I feel the same way BUT I still may get the first run. Wish I k=
new how> long until the next run would be available.> dave>>> On Nov 6, 200=
7, at 10:17 PM, Douglas Erickson wrote: >>> but, but. but ... I never, ever=
, buy the first run of a product. Not my> minivan, not my bike, heck most o=
f my books are second edition. ;) No> offense to Jim, but end users always =
use products different than the > designer/engineer/programmer intended. Th=
is is good; it reveals stuff.>>> Anyhow ... I have such an itch for this gl=
orious hardware!! Anyone else> with the same moral conundrum> >>>>> No viru=
s found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7=
.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1113 - Release Date: 11/6/2007> 10:04 AM=
<Snip>
http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast> To change your p=
ersonal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go tohttp:/=
/sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings >>>>>=> Boo! Scare away worms, vi=
ruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare!>http://onecare.live.com/=standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews=> homeroast mailing list>http://lists.sweetma=rias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast> To change your personal list settings =
(digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go thttp://sweetmarias.com/maill=istinfo.html#personalsettings>>>>>>>>>=> Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much m=
ore! Try Windows Live OneCare! >http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/=listinfo/homeroast> To change your personal list settings (digest options, =">http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/pur=chase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews= > homeroast mailing list>http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/=listinfo/homeroast> To change your personal list settings (digest options, =
vacations, unsvbscribes) go thttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#pers=onalsettings>homeroast maili=
ng lishttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTochange you=
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33) From: Steve
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It sounds like the drum was a purposeful design decision to try to
accomodate many different constraints.  Where he ended up was to have
an optional extra drum for roasting the 5% of coffees that fall
outside of normal size limits.


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