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Topic: First Harbor Freight Heat Gun dead (13 msgs / 308 lines)
1) From: Jim Gundlach
The first of the two ten dollar Harbor Freight, made in China, heat  
guns I bought has now bit the dust with sparks, a grow, and puff of  
smoke.  Total run time from box to death:  One hour and fifty  
minutes.  If I was not so busy I would open it up and perform an  
      pecan jim

2) From: Brian Kamnetz
Sounds a lot like when Ray's People's Glorious Orange heat gun bit it,
and not too distant from Ray's time frame.
On Nov 5, 2007 11:58 AM, Jim Gundlach  wrote:

3) From: Rich
Hmmmmm, now about $80.00 will buy a brand new Master Appliance HG-751b, 
but you will have to seach for the discount $80.00 price.  And, that 
heat gun will out live you most likely.  Chinese Horror Fright heat gun 
= false economy.
Jim Gundlach wrote:

4) From: Sean Cary
I got out of the Marine Corps for a while back in the mid-90's and
opened and ran a dive shop for 5 years...  One of the services I
offered was to "O2" clean tanks for NITROX - enriched air.  I used one
from Home Depot -red made by Milwaukee I think (can't step into the
garage at this moment...)  But anyway, it dried a TON of tanks - as in
I used it much more then a roaster ever would and I still have it, and
it still works.
I would rather cry once when buying a tool then 2 or more times...
95 and counting...
On Nov 5, 2007 7:58 PM, Jim Gundlach  wrote:

5) From: David Morgenlender
I used mine for the first time yesterday.  It was still working when I =
finished, but it was only in use about 1 hour.
One thing that surprised me is how close to the beans the HG had to be to=
any roasting accomplished ... mostly an inch or less (a little farther =
away for
the slow drying stage) ... and always the high setting.  How about you?
Since I'm going to depend upon the HG at times (especially roasting for =
gifts), I think I'm going to spring for a dependable one, now that I've =
by HG/DB & enjoyed it (mostly).  First I have to figure out which model &=
How did you enjoy the HG experience?
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e-mail: dmorgen

6) From: Justin Marquez
Apparently you can go too cheap with a heat gun.
I have a Wagner 1200 W, 2-speed HG I have been using for well over 2 years
now. It cost $29.95. I am completely satisfied with the performance of the
$30 HG. Wal-Mart carries them, or at least did so last year at Christmastime
when I bought one for a gift for a friend of my daughter.
I do run it all the time on high output setting and I do hold it within 1"
of the beans until first crack starts, then I back it up to about 2" away.
I normally roast about 1.5 to 2 cups of greens in a batch.  1.5 cups (about
240 grams greens) normally roasts to City+ (i.e., in the "gap" between 1st
and 2nd cracks) in about 11 minutes.  I expect the Milwaukee could possibly
do it in about 8 to 9 minutes.
You may want to spend $80 on the Milwaukee, as it will possibly last longer
and has more heat output, more heat control, more airflow and should roast
faster, but you really don't have to spend $80 to get a HG which will hold
up for a long time and is quite serviceable as a roaster.
Just a quick question for all the HG users here... has anyone had a Wagner
$30 heat gun to die yet? Mine is begining to sound like the motor/fan
bearings perhaps are wearing - when I wave it over the beans I can discern a
"cycling" in the sound that I don't recall  hearing when it was newer and
that could be the first signs of eventual HG death. (Of course, this has
been a question I have asked myself over the last 50 or so roasts.)
I estimate that I am up to about 150+ roasts at this point with this HG.
(Roasted at least 2-3 batches a week for over 2 years.)
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 11/5/07, Jim Gundlach  wrote:

7) From: Jim Gundlach
On Nov 5, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Justin Marquez wrote:
Yes, but I bought mine in 72 or 73.  It spent decades in storage  
before I found it and started heatgun/wok roasting.  The plastic body  
melted.  I suspect newer ones may be a bit more heat tolerant.

8) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Not me that is what I have... I think mine is a bit underpowered but it
works and that is what counts
(FYI mine is the one that the back is a bit "squared off" around the
intake slits on each side)

9) From: raymanowen
"First Harbor Freight Heat Gun dead..."
So is mine...
Maybe my problem was in getting Glorious People's Orange HG, with switch, O=
Sale for $10 for the whole kit. The heat coil opened and came in contact
with the ballast coil for the Lo-v motor. The Lo-v motor became a Line-v
motor for a split second.
It resembled a Roman Candle, and I couldn't resist the urge to put it down
fast and pull the plug. Maybe the heat coil could be repaired- I've
successfully spliced and brazed them before, but not for $10, and it's not
the Last One on the Planet!
Its replacement has been a faithful Wagner HT-1000, for which I paid $36 (I
kept the receipt for the 2-year warranty) at Homer's Depot. They were $24
last Wednesday, All Hallows eve, still warranted for 2 years. With several
months left of the 24, it still might not be a bad idea to grab a new one
for the $24.
Es wurde auch in China schlie▀lich gemacht... The Bosch looks good too,
similar to the Master HG's.
If it looks like a Heat Gun and makes heat like a heat gun but it's *Orange=
chances are it's really a clock, and time is running out.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Roast on-
On Nov 5, 2007 9:58 AM, Jim Gundlach  wrote:
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Might=
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

10) From: Rich
If you spring for the HG-751b you want to keep it on the 750 degree 
setting and about 3 inches away from the beans, and stir, don't stop.
David Morgenlender wrote:

11) From: John Crippen
I had one Wagner die on me after about 1.5 years of using it once a week for
thirty minutes or so.  The fan just stopped working one day.  I'm sure I
could have lengthened it's life (or the life of the one with which I
replaced it) by periodically opening it up and cleaning out the intake
vents.  As it is, I just blow them out with compressed air after each
use......not sure how much that's helping, but it's fun to do!
I agree that the gun is a little under-powered, but I really appreciate it's
lightness and compact size.
On Nov 5, 2007 7:28 PM, Rich  wrote:

12) From: Justin Marquez
It was at a year and a half that I thought I began to detect the bearing
noise that I find worrisome.
I use human-compressed air to clear the chaff from the air inlet slots.
Occasionally, I will use a piece of folded paper to slide in the slots for
additional clearing of what may have deposited there, but I assume if there
is a fine dusty-looking deposit on the edge of the slots, there is likely
more inside.  Maybe the "panty hose mesh filter" over the air inlet slots
isn't a bad idea.
Although it is minimally powered, it does the trick in a reasonable time,
and the light weight is helpful to me with my shoulders having rotator cuff
issues from years back.  I  roast a half pound of decaf and then a half
pound of regular once a week in back-to-back batches. It takes me about 35
minutes, including setup, roasting, cooling and storing and then putting up
stuff again.  Sometimes during the week I may roast a half pound of a
"special" regular coffee (P1800, IMMV, etc...) so that on the weekend I have
it ready at the peak flavor point.  So that is another 20 minutes or so. If
I had the more powerful HG, how much time could I cut out of all that? 6-8
minutes total? Certainly not much more than that if any.
I have been considering buying a new one and retiring the old one to
roasting duty in our RV so that I don't have to schlepp the roasting kit
back and forth between home and the 5th wheel when we go out for a weekend
or to travel. If Home Despot still has them on sale for $24 - that sounds
like a real plan.  I already have a whirly blade and an Aeropress that live
at the trailer - I just need to complete the RV's equipment list with the
roaster kit!
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 11/6/07, John Crippen  wrote:

13) From: raymanowen
"...if there is a fine dusty-looking deposit on the edge of the slots, there
is likely more inside.  Maybe the "panty hose mesh filter" over the air
inlet slots isn't a bad idea."
a.-  There is-
b.-  The nylon hose mesh stops chaff but not the dust and smoke of the
roast- the dusty deposit around the louvers is certainly replicated in the
heat gun. The brushes slide on the commutator as it spins and keep it wiped
The insulation between the commutator segments may accumulate some of the
dust, however. Compressed air or non-flammable automotive parts spray
cleaner to the rescue. With nil lung capacity, I'd need the rescue if I even
tried to blow out Liberace's candelabra!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On Nov 6, 2007 12:59 PM, Justin Marquez  wrote:
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

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