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Topic: Behmor and no moke? (21 msgs / 485 lines)
1) From: gin
Hi there:
I just roasted 1/2 pound of Columbian Patron using the P 5 auto cycle.
I got maybe a city roast, did not go into full 1st crack that I noticed since I had a friend stop by with his dogs, mine went nuts with barking, so I missed some of the roast cycle.
I let the machine go to the complete end of it's cycle; the roast stopped, it showed 9 minutes to cool?  
As I said I ended upo with a maybe city, smells greatm and my friend with the dogs took it away with him...
oh well, more roasting shortly.
I will tell all that there was NO SMOKE from this machine. I did my first roast outside (no wind) and normal smoke for me with the Hot Top or Gene Cafe would have been a lot.
I am talking NO SMOKE.
I am going to take this machine inside in a few minutes, play with the profile to get a darker roast and see what happens.
ginny

2) From: Jared
Ginny, I thought you always had a little smoke around ;)
On Nov 15, 2007 1:03 PM, gin  wrote:
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3) From: raymanowen
"my friend with the dogs took it away with him...  [The Behmor, or the
roast?]there was NO SMOKE from this machine...I am talking NO SMOKE... [Did
you remember to replace your smoke detectors' batteries?]
I am going to take this machine inside in a few minutes,
play with the profile to get a darker roast
and see what happens."
[Smart Money is on Darker Beans. Were you expecting something else?] -ro
On Nov 15, 2007 12:03 PM, gin  wrote:
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4) From: Oaxaca Charly
 I just got my Behmor and did the empty basket break in/clean the machine "roast". Plenty of greasy smoke in the house( cough cough). I'm taking it out on the porch to do that again a couple of times before I put beans in it for a real roast.
 Charly
gin  wrote: Hi there:
I just roasted 1/2 pound of Columbian Patron using the P 5 auto cycle.
I got maybe a city roast, did not go into full 1st crack that I noticed since I had a friend stop by with his dogs, mine went nuts with barking, so I missed some of the roast cycle.
I let the machine go to the complete end of it's cycle; the roast stopped, it showed 9 minutes to cool?  
As I said I ended upo with a maybe city, smells greatm and my friend with the dogs took it away with him...
oh well, more roasting shortly.
I will tell all that there was NO SMOKE from this machine. I did my first roast outside (no wind) and normal smoke for me with the Hot Top or Gene Cafe would have been a lot.
I am talking NO SMOKE.
I am going to take this machine inside in a few minutes, play with the profile to get a darker roast and see what happens.
ginny---------------------------------
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5) From: Bob Luis
I did the break-in plus five 1/4lb roasts yesterday with no smoke.
On Nov 15, 2007 1:46 PM, Oaxaca Charly  wrote:
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6) From: Marty Wooten
I am looking forward to the upcoming reports.
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From: Oaxaca Charly 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:46:55 PM
Subject: Re: +Behmor and no moke?
 I just got my Behmor and did the empty basket break in/clean the machine "roast". Plenty of greasy smoke in the house( cough cough). I'm taking it out on the porch to do that again a couple of times before I put beans in it for a real roast.
 Charly
gin  wrote:
Hi there:
I just roasted 1/2 pound of Columbian Patron using the P 5 auto cycle.
I got maybe a city roast, did not go into full 1st crack that I noticed since I had a friend stop by with his dogs, mine went nuts with barking, so I missed some of the roast cycle.
I let the machine go to the complete end of it's cycle; the roast stopped, it showed 9 minutes to cool? 
As I said I ended upo with a maybe city, smells greatm and my friend with the dogs took it away with him...
oh well, more roasting shortly.
I will tell all that there was NO SMOKE from this machine. I did my first roast outside (no wind) and normal smoke for me with the Hot Top or Gene Cafe would have been a lot.
I am talking NO SMOKE.
I am going to take this machine inside in a few minutes, play with the profile to get a darker roast and see what happens.
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7) From: Marty Wooten
What was the average time between roasts if you do not mind me asking?
 
Still happy with my RK, but have to admit somewhat interested since it is getting cold in Indiana ;o)
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From: Bob Luis 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:13:37 PM
Subject: Re: +Behmor and no moke?
I did the break-in plus five 1/4lb roasts yesterday with no smoke.
On Nov 15, 2007 1:46 PM, Oaxaca Charly  wrote:
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8) From: Bob Luis
Essentially there is no wait time. I opened the about halfway through
the cooling cycle and it was just barely warm to the touch.
On Nov 15, 2007 2:25 PM, Marty Wooten  wrote:
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9) From: Marty Wooten
Good to hear - thank you.
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From: Bob Luis 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:30:01 PM
Subject: Re: +Behmor and no moke?
Essentially there is no wait time. I opened the about halfway through
the cooling cycle and it was just barely warm to the touch.
On Nov 15, 2007 2:25 PM, Marty Wooten  wrote:
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10) From: gin
that was good Jared!!!
ginny
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11) From: Michael Rasmussen
Oaxaca Charly reported:
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I too had a sorta smokey, mostly aroma, break in/machine clean start.
So Don't Skip That Step!
Followed up with a half pound of SM French Blend (designated test coffee) on a P1
profile.  1st crack came with two minutes left in the profile so I added 90
seconds.  2nd crack was rolling nicely when I pushed the cool button with ~20
seconds left.
Tonight we're going to choose some special beans and roast cocoa too.
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12) From: Scott Miller
I'm interested in the idea of roasting cocoa in the Behmor. Look forward to
hearing how it works out.
cheers,
Scott
On Nov 16, 2007 3:56 PM, Michael Rasmussen  wrote:
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13) From: Oaxaca Charly
Michael Rasmussen  wrote: 
Oaxaca Charly reported:
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I too had a sorta smokey, mostly aroma, break in/machine clean start.
So Don't Skip That Step!
Followed up with a half pound of SM French Blend (designated test coffee) on a P1
profile.  1st crack came with two minutes left in the profile so I added 90
seconds.  2nd crack was rolling nicely when I pushed the cool button with ~20
seconds left.
Tonight we're going to choose some special beans and roast cocoa too.
  I did my first real roast, after two dry run empty basket ones, in a heated shed instead of the house. Even though I did a light roast of 1/2 lb there was still enough smoke to set off the smoke detector, and even with a strong exhaust fan going in the ceiling, and the door to the shed open it smells like roast smoke in there. I got extra smoke because my basket has a little break in the mesh which allows some full sized beans to fall out, and some of them burn. I fixed the break, temporarily, and the second roast with less bean spillage still smoked up the room more than I would want in my house. Nice roasts, BTW. This will be a much better sample roaster than my FR or Hearthware toys, and less stressful than doing 1/2 lb sample roasts with my RK outside.
  Charly
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14) From: Treshell
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Please do talk about this as well.
Thanks
treshell

15) From: Brett Mason
Please see www.chocolatealchemy.com for chocolate questions....  Rumor has
it they have a behmor on premesis....
Brett
On 11/16/07, Treshell  wrote:
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16) From: Michael Rasmussen
Brett Mason wrote:
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I counted three when I was there.  The tie in for coffee is that I met John of
Chocolate Alchemy at PNWG last June and took home a couple of freshly made
chocolates he was serving.  When my wife loved them I knew I had a great
anniversary present.  
The Behmor being excellent for chocolate had a lot to do with my getting one
for coffee.
Moral:  if your wife is skeptical about the need for a Behmor roaster, get her
the other several hundred dollars worth of chocolate making equipment and the
skepticism will vanish.
Moral #2:  Give your wife chocolate, make her happy for a day.  Give her
chocolate making equipment and make her happy for life.
or something like that.
-- 
      Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon  
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17) From: Michael Rasmussen
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This is in direct contrast to my experience.  I roasted in the kitchen. 
There was no noticable smoke, just a slight aroma of roasted coffee. 
-- 
      Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon  
    Be appropriate && Follow your curiosity
         http://www.patch.com/words/
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Every man is as God made him, ay, and often worse.
		-- Miguel de Cervantes

18) From: Phil Bergman Jungle Music
Interested in how much smoke people are getting with a Full City or darker
roast.
Phil

19) From: Oaxaca Charly
Phil Bergman Jungle Music  wrote: Interested in how much smoke people are getting with a Full City or darker
roast.
Phil
 I got mucho smoke from a FC+ roast. Joe Behmor himself will be sending me a new drum right away because mine had a broken wire that lets beans fall out. He thinks that my smokey experiences are probably from the fallen beans burning outside of the drum. That may be, (and great customer service!) but I'll still be getting more smoke than most because I'll be opening the door, sometimes to slow the roast during first crack, and always to cool the roast faster at the end.  I found that just letting the first snaps of second crack start was enough to finish with strong roasty flavors that usually come with 1 full minute of second crack in my RK drum with a larger sized batch.
 C

20) From: Scott Miller
FC+ roast for me did not produce too much noticeable smoke for a 1/2 pound
roast until I opened the door after cutting off the power. This was with a
wet process Java. In a small apartment, or with no adequate ventilation, I'm
thinking this would have been a problem but that wasn't an issue for me.
I'll do another dark roast with the SM French Roast Blend on Sunday. In the
past with that blend, I've followed Tom's advice and gone to the point where
2nd crack slows down as the endpoint of the roast.
cheers,
Scott
On Nov 16, 2007 8:31 PM, Phil Bergman Jungle Music <
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21) From: Phil Bergman Jungle Music
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Scott and C,
Thanks for your comments.  Right now I'm using an IR2 in the kitchen with an
attached vent out and I get absolutely no smoke inside.  This aspect of
roasting has been great and there's been absolutely no deposits on the
walls.  I'd like to continue roasting inside.  I've seen comments on the
Behmor that it gets "most of the smoke".  The cost of painting the kitchen
is more than the roaster, so I'm really anxious to see how people do on
smoke when they go to FC and beyond.  Or, could a side vent be attached for
venting the smoke outdoors?  And, how does the smoke production/release
compare with the other drum roasters around.
Phil


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