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Topic: rk drum venting (22 msgs / 382 lines)
1) From:
anyone having luck venting the RK drum/grill indoors to nearly elimnate smoke?  I know it sounds dangerous, but I have a 3 seasons room that could be dedicated, so I could have plenty of clearance from walls.  I'm in MI, so there aren't many months to be outside.  Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Tim

2) From: Aaron
Wellllllll.....  Don't know how well this would work for youbut... if 
you got a fume hood, kind of like what you find above your stove and 
vented it outside that might work.  I use my dryer in the fluff setting 
to suck the smoke out from my I roast.  Perhaps a combination of the 
two, the hood to collect and the dryer to woof it outside?   or a small 
vaccuum cleaner with a venturi type of draw so you don't have to worry 
about overheating....   I see many ideas.
aaron

3) From: Allon Stern
On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Aaron wrote:
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Plus it makes your clothes smell soooo good :)
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allon

4) From: Justin Marquez
Consider having a significant fire extinguisher at hand !!  Maybe think
about installing a sprinkler system inside a metal vent hood (like
commercial kitchens do)
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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5) From: Rich
The big risk here is CO, carbon monoxide.  Not smoke or fire.  Operating 
a gas grill inside a closed space is a life threatening exercise.   A 
"closed space" is indoors.  Gas grills aer prone to incomplete 
combustion and that produces CO.
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6) From: Homeroaster
http://www.homeroaster.com/5pound2.htmlThe vent takes out nearly 80% of the smoke, but there's still quite a lot 
that escapes when I open the roaster to dump the beans. CO has not been an 
issue in a drafty, unattached workshop, but I still keep the door open a 
crack to let in fresh air.  I wouldn't do it in a room attached to my house. 
I think the risk to house and family might be too great.  Invisible propane 
gas will 'puddle' if there's even the tiniest leak and ignite without 
warning.  It would also probably wreak havoc with your homeowners insurance 
if you had a mishap and had to file a claim.
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7) From: Homeroaster
Burning propane puts off very little CO.  My CO detector reads "0" near my 
propane roaster in my workshop.  CO is a result of incomplete combustion, 
and propane burns so cleanly CO is minimized to practically nothing.
Still, having a propane tank in your residence is probably not a good idea 
due to propane leaks.
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8) From: PJ S
What would be the problems with putting the tank outside like people that 
heat their homes with propane
P

9) From: miKe mcKoffee
Interior propane lines and connects are not the same lines or the quick
connect type connectors commonly used on propane grills but rather permanent
AND installation safety inspected lines and fittings. All lines and
connections are air pressure tested before propane ever allowed to even
flow.
There would be no problem with a more permanent outside tank installation.
Exactly where the propane tank will (and must) be for our shop roaster if to
be used with anyone but owner around.
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10) From: Rich
Propane appliances, including BBQ grills, are quite capable of producing 
life threatening quantities of CO.  Do you really want to take the 
chance of spending the rest of your life a vegetable or causing someone 
else to spend their life as a vegetable?  Or, dead?  As the list members 
here how many people die in converted garages in LA every year when it 
gets cold, from unvented space heaters burning propane.
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11) From: Brett Mason
Not many.  Usually it is stoves, ovens and fireplaces unvented...
two cents from a departed California boy...
Brett
On Nov 21, 2007 7:27 AM, Rich  wrote:
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Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

12) From: Rich
Yes, even the "visitors" to LA are smart enough not to haul the BBQ 
grill inside....
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13) From: Homeroaster
I think insurance and overall family safety would be the two biggest issues 
with a product (grill) that is intended for outdoor use.  If it were in a 
garage with the ability to pull the thing away from the house if there was a 
problem, that might be safer.  I think smoke, with a grill will constantly 
be an issue in a residence.  My workshop always smells of coffee roast.
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Ed Needham
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14) From: Homeroaster
Let's face it, anything that burns fossil fuels can produce deadly amounts 
of CO if there's not enough oxygen present for complete combustion.  I would 
not put my grill in any room of my home.  I was a bit fearful for the first 
few weeks of having my grill/roaster in my detached workshop, and I still 
roast, even in the dead of winter with the door cracked at least 6" near the 
roaster.  I had a CO detector out in the workshop for quite a while but it 
never read more than "0" unless I held the unit right over the flame as I 
was lighting it.  I feel safe out there now, with the door cracked and the 
vent attached to the roaster.
Of course, things could change and I could die.  I'm more fearful of dying 
on the I-264 loop than in my workshop next to my roaster.
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Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

15) From:
proper fresh air ventilation & co detector a given.  No concerns about getting fresh air in, looking for a way to get smoke out for the most part.
Tim
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16) From:
Perfect! And I now have another reason to present to my wife for that big detached heated pole barn-sweet!  Really was helpful, maybe the shed will work for now. 
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17) From:
I see some possibilities!
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18) From: Rich
Exhaust fan high up on the wall and fresh outside air intake low on the 
opposite wall will do the trick if outside temperature / humidity is not 
a concern.  An old furnace blower fan will work fine.
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19) From: raymanowen
"having a propane tank in your residence is probably not a good idea..."
Not a problem- it always takes care of itself... -ro
On Nov 20, 2007 10:08 PM, Homeroaster  wrote:
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20) From: Ross
Tim,
If you have a gas fireplace you could set up your RK there and enjoy the 
view at the same time. 
Ross

21) From: Floyd Lozano
Something like a commercial stove hood would work well i think - I see Bobby
Flay on the Food Network grilling indoors, and his vent sucks that smoke
straight up and out, it's pretty neat.  Wish I had a kitchen big enough to
accommodate that!
-F
On Dec 27, 2007 11:55 PM, Ross  wrote:
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22) From: RK
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
All gas, and  charcoal grills are meant to be used outside for safety =
reason. I urge you to follow these saftey rules.
RK


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