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Topic: pod machines (16 msgs / 607 lines)
1) From: Tim Harvey
Anyone have opinions on Pod capable espresso machines?
Tim

2) From: Jim Gundlach
Pods don't home roast very well.
     pecan jim
On Dec 4, 2007, at 5:43 PM, Tim Harvey wrote:
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3) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Last time I tried it the pod just burnt up and the grounds went
everywhere...

4) From: Eddie Dove
Hey Tim,
While you may find a quality, pod-capable espresso machine, the
quality and flavor of the espresso produced by using the pods will
likely leave you wanting because the coffee will be rather stale.
Fresh coffee, critical to a great shot of espresso (and drinks made
from that espresso), has a relatively short shelf life.  Once the
coffee is ground, you are minutes away from losing everything that
makes doing it yourself worthwhile.  Are you looking to use it with
your home-roasted coffee?  Making your own pods?
Respectfully,
Eddie
-- 
Vita non est vivere sed valere vita est
Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On Dec 4, 2007 5:43 PM, Tim Harvey  wrote:
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5) From: Tim Harvey
Thanks.  Nah, I suspected the staleness issue.  I have a friend who just bought a cafe, her machine blew up, she knows the restaurant/catering side, but doens't like or know anything about coffee.  She is considering buying a used machine (Renko 123).  I told her I didn't know anything about Pod quality, but that I'd do some research.  I didn't want to speak about things I didn't know about-didn't know if nitrogen or something could be helping the flavor and make taste acceptable.
TIm
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6) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Seriously Check ebay for the "refillable pods" use those to put in
homeroast and they make marginal coffee
Just a thought...
My 2 cents worth and YMMV
Dennis

7) From: Mike Koenig
Tim,
I sometimes use a pod machine in my office, when I don't want a mess
(I've already had lots of CSA points deducted for this!!).  The shot
is not that different from what I used to get before I started
homeroasting, when I used to use Lavazza beans from the supermarket.
Thin blond crema.   I can really only tolerate it in milk drinks.
Note that espresso pods are the Illy developed E.S.E. system and quite
different from the Tassimo/Senseo/Keurig pods, or the Nespresso system
(of which I have no experience).
--mike
On Dec 4, 2007 6:43 PM, Tim Harvey  wrote:
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8) From: Sandra Andina
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I have a Senseo (bought at my husband's request), which I used to use  
with a refillable Eco-Pad filled with my own homeroast. Never got a  
hot enough brew. Have had decent cups out of Keurigs at hotel  
breakfast buffets and hospital cafeterias (always picked the capsules  
with the latest pull dates). Now Coscto is packaging Keurig machines  
with a plastic refill-your-own capsule, and it'd be interesting to see  
if it gives as good a cup as an Aeropress or pourover.
Sandy
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Sandy Andina
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I have a Senseo (bought at my =
husband's request), which I used to use with a refillable Eco-Pad filled =
with my own homeroast. Never got a hot enough brew. Have had decent cups =
out of Keurigs at hotel breakfast buffets and hospital cafeterias =
(always picked the capsules with the latest pull dates). Now Coscto is =
packaging Keurig machines with a plastic refill-your-own capsule, and =
it'd be interesting to see if it gives as good a cup as an Aeropress or =
pourover.Sandy
On Dec 5, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Mike =
Koenig wrote:
Tim, I sometimes use a pod machine in my office, = when I don't want a mess (I've already had lots of CSA points = deducted for this!!).  The shot is not that different from what = I used to get before I started homeroasting, when I used to use = Lavazza beans from the supermarket. Thin blond crema.   I = can really only tolerate it in milk drinks. Note that espresso = pods are the Illy developed E.S.E. system and quite different from = the Tassimo/Senseo/Keurig pods, or the Nespresso system (of which I = have no experience). --mike On Dec 4, 2007 6:43 = PM, Tim Harvey <thirddayhomeroaster= r.net> wrote: Anyone have opinions = on Pod capable espresso machines? Tim homeroast mailing = list http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast To change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings= homeroast mailing list http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast To change your = personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings= Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-2--472657481--

9) From: Joseph Robertson
Sandy,
Please let us know if you have a chance to experience this Costco version. I
would be interested in the same thought.
JoeR
On Dec 5, 2007 10:04 AM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
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10) From: Justin Marquez
The refillable K-Cup is available from Keurig. Go to their website, then to
accessories page. It is there.
Description as follows:
"The reusable K-Cup(R) filter assembly allows you to use your own gourmet
ground coffee in your Keurig(R) brewer.
Only works in Keurig home brewers: Elite B40, Ultra B50, Special Edition
B60, and Platinum B70.
Does not fit the Keurig Commercial brewers: B100, B100P, B100R, B130, B140,
B200, B2000, B2003 or B3000. "
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On Dec 5, 2007 12:16 PM, Joseph Robertson  wrote:
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11) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
My only experience with them is using a small home machine in Brazil, 
and like Sandy it was never quite hot enough... although for "on the 
road" coffee, the cup was good. We happened to get pods loaded with 
fresh Brauna Estate coffee, so that made all the difference. The 
reason you find them in Brazil is only because the huge influence 
Illy has there, and Illy (well, Italy in general) is pod-crazy. I 
think they smell a trend and the biggest maker of pod equipment is in 
Italy (the setup to make pods is like $150k - 200k, and the more big 
roastes jump on board, the better ... plus it induces people to buy 
new espresso machines with pod handles).
Funny thin, I misread the subject of this thread as "ipod machines" - 
I wonder if Apple can add that functionality to their new models: 
60GB iEspresso iPod.
Anyway, I would never get a pod machine for any environment, office 
or whatever, if I didn't already know the quality, freshness and cost 
of the coffee I was going to be getting. It's like buying a inkjet 
printer for $50 and finding the ink cartridges cost $150 a pop.
Tom
I have a Senseo (bought at my husband's request), which I used to use 
with a refillable Eco-Pad filled with my own homeroast. Never got a 
hot enough brew. Have had decent cups out of Keurigs at hotel 
breakfast buffets and hospital cafeterias (always picked the capsules 
with the latest pull dates). Now Coscto is packaging Keurig machines 
with a plastic refill-your-own capsule, and it'd be interesting to 
see if it gives as good a cup as an Aeropress or pourover.
Sandy
On Dec 5, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Mike Koenig wrote:
Tim,
I sometimes use a pod machine in my office, when I don't want a mess
(I've already had lots of CSA points deducted for this!!).  The shot
is not that different from what I used to get before I started
homeroasting, when I used to use Lavazza beans from the supermarket.
Thin blond crema.   I can really only tolerate it in milk drinks.
Note that espresso pods are the Illy developed E.S.E. system and quite
different from the Tassimo/Senseo/Keurig pods, or the Nespresso system
(of which I have no experience).
--mike
On Dec 4, 2007 6:43 PM, Tim Harvey 
<thirddayhomeroaster> 
wrote:
Anyone have opinions on Pod capable espresso machines?
Tim

12) From: Michael I
I made a mistake a few months ago and bought a Francis Francis X1, knowing
that it was pod-capable, but also shipped with a regular portafilter. 
Or so I thought.  I actually got the X1 Trio, not the X1.  I got it at a
substantial discount (new), so returning it wasn't really an option.  Plus
it's for my second home (Spaz Vivaldi II at home -- no complaints there), so
I hadn't even opened it for over a month.
Well, the Trio does not appear to be able to handle anything other than
pods, due to the weird way it dispenses.  The more you lock the portafilter
in, the less liquid you get (lungo, normale, ristretto -- hence Trio).  I
don't believe that it can be retrofitted with a regular portafilter, but if
anyone knows something to the contrary, please let me know.
Now, the Illy pods that shipped with it were not too horrible, but not
something that I'd want to drink every day.  So, I suppose I'll have to get
a refillable pod for the ESE system to my homeroast in it.
But, I also have a good Capresso drip pot at that house, so all is not lost.
It extracts at a reasonable temp and makes a good pot, so the homeroast does
not go to waste.
-AdkMike

13) From: Sandra Andina
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The salon/spa where I get de-rooted and de-frizzed serves espresso  
from a FF pod machine. Heck, the coffee's free and it's a beauty parlor.
Sandy
On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Michael I wrote:
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Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
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The salon/spa where I get =
de-rooted and de-frizzed serves espresso from a FF pod machine. Heck, =
the coffee's free and it's a beauty parlor.Sandy
On =
Dec 5, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Michael I wrote:
I made a = mistake a few months ago and bought a Francis Francis X1, = knowing that it was pod-capable, but also shipped with a regular = portafilter. Or so I thought.  I actually got the X1 Trio, = not the X1.  I got it at a substantial discount (new), so = returning it wasn't really an option.  Plus it's for my second = home (Spaz Vivaldi II at home -- no complaints there), so I hadn't = even opened it for over a month. Well, the Trio does not appear = to be able to handle anything other than pods, due to the weird way = it dispenses.  The more you lock the portafilter in, the less = liquid you get (lungo, normale, ristretto -- hence Trio). =  I don't believe that it can be retrofitted with a regular = portafilter, but if anyone knows something to the contrary, please = let me know. Now, the Illy pods that shipped with it were not too = horrible, but not something that I'd want to drink every day. =  So, I suppose I'll have to get a refillable pod for the ESE = system to my homeroast in it. But, I also have a good Capresso = drip pot at that house, so all is not lost. It extracts at a = reasonable temp and makes a good pot, so the homeroast does not go to = waste. -AdkMike

14) From: miKe mcKoffee
Pods are for Pod People:-) (Not followers of the Dark Side)
As far as restaurateurs not liking or knowing anything about coffee, far too
common a theme...
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/

15) From: raymanowen
"...the coffee's free and it's a beauty parlor."
The Sears auto centers also have free coffee in their waiting lounges- Heck,
indeed!
I know where Sears and the auto manufacturers came up with the recommended
oil change interval of 3 months or 3,000 miles: it's the same interval and
customer count between cleanup of their waiting room Mr. Coffee. It's Free,
after all. And it's Seasoned!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
I can't get de-rooted or de-frizzed!
On Dec 5, 2007 10:27 PM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
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16) From: Public
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I use the Keurig at the office with the "My K-Cup" add on filled with my
home roast.  It really isn't all that bad.  I was just reading on the new
models that claim they maintain a steady 192 deg. During the extraction and
now the user has the "option" to choose a "cooler cup" at 187 deg (I won't
start by commenting on this "feature").  Just my .02.
Mike  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Joseph Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:16 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +pod machines
Sandy,
Please let us know if you have a chance to experience this Costco version. I
would be interested in the same thought.
JoeR
On Dec 5, 2007 10:04 AM, Sandra Andina < sandraandina
 > wrote:
I have a Senseo (bought at my husband's request), which I used to use with a
refillable Eco-Pad filled with my own homeroast. Never got a hot enough
brew. Have had decent cups out of Keurigs at hotel breakfast buffets and
hospital cafeterias (always picked the capsules with the latest pull dates).
Now Coscto is packaging Keurig machines with a plastic refill-your-own
capsule, and it'd be interesting to see if it gives as good a cup as an
Aeropress or pourover. 
Sandy
On Dec 5, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Mike Koenig wrote:
Tim,
I sometimes use a pod machine in my office, when I don't want a mess 
(I've already had lots of CSA points deducted for this!!).  The shot
is not that different from what I used to get before I started
homeroasting, when I used to use Lavazza beans from the supermarket.
Thin blond crema.   I can really only tolerate it in milk drinks. 
Note that espresso pods are the Illy developed E.S.E. system and quite
different from the Tassimo/Senseo/Keurig pods, or the Nespresso system
(of which I have no experience).
--mike
On Dec 4, 2007 6:43 PM, Tim Harvey < thirddayhomeroaster> wrote:
Anyone have opinions on Pod capable espresso machines?
TimSandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina


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