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1) From: Sandra Andina
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My family has been bugging me all week for some more of "that  
blueberry-chocolate coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called  
Joe Behm, who suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones  
just in case) to cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He  
recommended 1#, P3, C, and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice C-C+, and the blueberries are already  
developing. Yum!  Thanks, Joe!!!
Sandy Andina
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My family has been bugging me =
all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate coffee," so I =
dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who suggested a cooling =
cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to cull the smallest =
beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, C, and not letting =
it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-14--342678455--

2) From: Marty Wooten
Sandy - thank you for the heads up on the solution offered...Great idea - I am glad to hear the level of help that Joe offers. 
 
I could not resist any longer. I was going to hold off a little while, but with all of the good reports and my very loving (and understanding) wife encouraging me to go ahead and order the Behmor... I gave in. SM order confirmation has been received and now the anxious anticipation of waiting for the Behmor, sampler pack, extra Bali beans and cleaner for the espresso machine to make it's way all the way back to Indiana (still sad over their move from Ohio ;o)...
 
Marty
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From: Sandra Andina 
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Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 1:10:53 AM
Subject: +Behmor profile for Harar Horse
My family has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, C, and not letting it go into 2nd crack. 
Worked like a charm. Nice C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, Joe!!!
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina

3) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
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Sandy,
Is the Harar Horse you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May  
2007? I really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts  
but I haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first  
roasted Idido Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could  
actually detect the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately  
that did not happen with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted  
the newest crop from this October but I recently got some and will be  
trying it soon. However if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry  
notes I will try that first.
dave
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
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Sandy,Is the Harar Horse =
you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May 2007? I =
really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts but I =
haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first roasted Idido =
Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could actually detect =
the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately that did not happen =
with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted the newest crop from =
this October but I recently got some and will be trying it soon. However =
if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry notes I will try that =
first.dave
On Dec 6, = 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
My family = has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate = coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who = suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to = cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, C, = and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = --Apple-Mail-26--202477563--

4) From: Sandra Andina
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That's the lot!
On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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That's the lot!
On =
Dec 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
Sandy,Is the Harar Horse = you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May 2007? I = really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts but I = haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first roasted Idido = Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could actually detect = the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately that did not happen = with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted the newest crop from = this October but I recently got some and will be trying it soon. However = if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry notes I will try that = first.dave
On Dec 6, = 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
My family = has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate = coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who = suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to = cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, = C, and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-13--194190234--

5) From: Sandra Andina
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Brewed it up this morning after a 3-day rest:  subtler blueberries,  
but still there. The explosion is still a couple of days away.
On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
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Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
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Brewed it up this morning after =
a 3-day rest:  subtler blueberries, but still there. The explosion =
is still a couple of days away.
On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, =
Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
Sandy,Is the Harar Horse = you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May 2007? I = really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts but I = haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first roasted Idido = Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could actually detect = the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately that did not happen = with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted the newest crop from = this October but I recently got some and will be trying it soon. However = if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry notes I will try that = first.dave
On Dec 6, = 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
My family = has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate = coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who = suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to = cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, = C, and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-5--133932084--

6) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
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Thanks for the update. I will roast some today but probably only a  
1/2 Lb as I am the only one currently home who drinks caffeinated  
coffee and I only have ~ 1.5 lbs left and it looks like there is no  
more Lot 14659.
A quick question you mention "subtler blueberries, but still there.  
The explosion is still a couple of days away." Are you saying after  
three days the blueberry wasn't as noticeable as when it was fresh  
roasted and that you expect them to come back stronger in a few days.
dave
On Dec 9, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Sandra Andina wrote:
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Thanks for the update. I =
will roast some today but probably only a 1/2 Lb as I am the only one =
currently home who drinks caffeinated coffee and I only have ~ 1.5 lbs =
left and it looks like there is no more Lot =
14659.
A= quick question you mention "subtler blueberries, but still there. The = explosion is still a couple of days away." Are you saying after three = days the blueberry wasn't as noticeable as when it was fresh roasted and = that you expect them to come back stronger in a few = days.
daveOn = Dec 9, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Sandra Andina wrote:
Brewed it = up this morning after a 3-day rest:  subtler blueberries, but still = there. The explosion is still a couple of days away. On Dec = 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
Sandy,Is the Harar Horse = you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May 2007? I = really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts but I = haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first roasted Idido = Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could actually detect = the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately that did not happen = with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted the newest crop from = this October but I recently got some and will be trying it soon. However = if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry notes I will try that = first.dave
On Dec 6, = 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
My family = has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate = coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who = suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to = cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, C, = and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = --Apple-Mail-28--126109067--

7) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
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I just roasted a 1/2 Lb of Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 in the  
Behmor. Used profile P3, setting C (14 minutes). 1st started at 2  
minutes and I stopped the roast with 35 seconds left. Although I  
thought first crack was over I heard a few more first cracks after I  
hit the cool button. The weight loss was 14.3% and I believe I was at  
a City roast.
I do not notice any blueberry notes but hopefully they will develop  
with some resting. The coffee is great but I am looking/hoping to  
find some blueberry notes. I wonder if I had let the roast go a  
little farther if the blueberry would have developed further? Any ideas?
I really like the suggestion of culling out the small beans by using  
the cool cycle prior to roasting. Sure beats my previous method of  
rotating the drum by hand. Plus it does a much better job. I culled  
out 1.64g prior to roast and did not find any beans that fell thru or  
stuck in the screen after the roast.
dave
On Dec 9, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Sandra Andina wrote:
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I just roasted a 1/2 Lb =
of Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 in the Behmor. =
Used profile P3, setting C (14 minutes). 1st started at 2 minutes and I =
stopped the roast with 35 seconds left. Although I thought first crack =
was over I heard a few more first cracks after I hit the cool button. =
The weight loss was 14.3% and I believe I was at a City =
roast. 
I do not notice any = blueberry notes but hopefully they will develop with some resting. The = coffee is great but I am looking/hoping to find some blueberry notes. I = wonder if I had let the roast go a little farther if the blueberry would = have developed further? Any ideas?
I really like the = suggestion of culling out the small beans by using the cool cycle prior = to roasting. Sure beats my previous method of rotating the drum by = hand. Plus it does a much better job. I culled out 1.64g prior to roast = and did not find any beans that fell thru or stuck in the screen after = the roast.
dave = On Dec 9, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Sandra Andina wrote:
Brewed it = up this morning after a 3-day rest:  subtler blueberries, but still = there. The explosion is still a couple of days away. On Dec = 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
Sandy,Is the Harar Horse = you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May 2007? I = really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts but I = haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first roasted Idido = Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could actually detect = the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately that did not happen = with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted the newest crop from = this October but I recently got some and will be trying it soon. However = if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry notes I will try that = first.dave
On Dec 6, = 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
My family = has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate = coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who = suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to = cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, C, = and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = --Apple-Mail-29--119103137--

8) From: Sandra Andina
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With the Horse I've always found that it takes 4-7 days for the  
maximal blueberry-muffin notes to emerge; it is extremely subtle when  
first roasted and I don't even go near it till day 3, when the mango  
and chocolate notes still predominate but one can still detect the  
blueberry.
Sandy
On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
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With the Horse I've always =
found that it takes 4-7 days for the maximal blueberry-muffin notes to =
emerge; it is extremely subtle when first roasted and I don't even go =
near it till day 3, when the mango and chocolate notes still predominate =
but one can still detect the blueberry.Sandy
On Dec 9, =
2007, at 12:20 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
Thanks for the update. I = will roast some today but probably only a 1/2 Lb as I am the only one = currently home who drinks caffeinated coffee and I only have ~ 1.5 lbs = left and it looks like there is no more Lot = 14659.
A= quick question you mention "subtler blueberries, but still there. The = explosion is still a couple of days away." Are you saying after three = days the blueberry wasn't as noticeable as when it was fresh roasted and = that you expect them to come back stronger in a few = days.
daveOn = Dec 9, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Sandra Andina wrote:
Brewed it = up this morning after a 3-day rest:  subtler blueberries, but still = there. The explosion is still a couple of days away. On Dec = 8, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Dave Ehrenkranz wrote:
Sandy,Is the Harar Horse = you used Ethiopia Harar Horse Lot 14659 from May 2007? I = really like it when I get the blueberry notes from my roasts but I = haven't been getting that lately. I remember when I first roasted Idido = Misty Valley crop from Fall 2006 and discovered I could actually detect = the blueberry from smell and taste. Unfortunately that did not happen = with the later lots of IMV. I haven't yet roasted the newest crop from = this October but I recently got some and will be trying it soon. However = if the Horse lot 14659 gave you blueberry notes I will try that = first.dave
On Dec 6, = 2007, at 10:10 PM, Sandra Andina wrote:
My family = has been bugging me all week for some more of "that blueberry-chocolate = coffee," so I dragged out the Harar Horse. Called Joe Behm, who = suggested a cooling cycle (I ran two successive ones just in case) to = cull the smallest beans and avoid a fire.  He recommended 1#, P3, = C, and not letting it go into 2nd crack.
Worked like a charm. Nice = C-C+, and the blueberries are already developing. Yum!  Thanks, = Joe!!! Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-6--115307510--


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